Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Apr 13

Scappoose, Oregon USA

#165815 May 20, 2013
I agree that atheism takes a lot of faith, except its faith in "it all happened somehow" rather than "a great powerful being we can't really understand created it all" – which by the way, makes a lot more sense to me than the 'somehow' theory. For one thing, whenever there is a genetic change-an aberration-it is a mutation, and always ends up in a negative result. Never in the advancement of the species (which is not the same as natural selection). I may not be able to understand He who we call God, but I can accept His existence!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#165816 May 20, 2013
Why assume a great and powerful being did it in the first place?
Jenji wrote:
I agree that atheism takes a lot of faith, except its faith in "it all happened somehow" rather than "a great powerful being we can't really understand created it all" – which by the way, makes a lot more sense to me than the 'somehow' theory. For one thing, whenever there is a genetic change-an aberration-it is a mutation, and always ends up in a negative result. Never in the advancement of the species (which is not the same as natural selection). I may not be able to understand He who we call God, but I can accept His existence!
Lincoln

United States

#165817 May 20, 2013
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court will revisit the issue of church-state separation and decide whether a town council can begin its monthly meetings with a prayer from a Christian pastor.

Thirty years ago, the court upheld a state legislature’s practice of beginning its session with a non-denominational prayer. The justices said that “to invoke Divine guidance on a public body entrusted with making laws” did NOT violate the 1st Amendment’s prohibition on an “establishment of religion.”

But since then, several lower courts have said that a city council or county board may violate the 1st Amendment if its opening prayers favor one religion only.

Last year, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York ruled that the town of Greece, near Rochester, had crossed the line by inviting Christian pastors to deliver nearly every opening prayer. While the town’s policy does not favor one religion, the court said, its practice has been to favor Christianity to the exclusion of other faiths.

“In practice, Christian clergy members have delivered nearly all of the prayers relevant to this litigation and have done so at the town’s invitation,” the appeals court said last year.

Lawyers for the town appealed to the Supreme Court, arguing that opening prayers at a town council are a standard practice in communities across the nation and do not violate the 1st Amendment.

The court said it will hear the case in the fall.

[Updated, 7:49 a.m. PDT May 20: Americans United for Separation of Church and State, which sponsored the lawsuit, urged the high court to affirm government neutrality on religion.

“A town council meeting isn’t a church service, and it shouldn’t seem like one,” said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United.“Government can’t serve everyone in the community when it endorses one faith over others. That sends the clear message that some are second-class citizens based on what they believe about religion.”

LA Times

Since: Jun 12

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#165819 May 20, 2013
You must have something to have faith in. What would Atheism have faith in?

Since: Jun 12

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#165820 May 20, 2013
Jenji wrote:
I agree that atheism takes a lot of faith, except its faith in "it all happened somehow" rather than "a great powerful being we can't really understand created it all" – which by the way, makes a lot more sense to me than the 'somehow' theory. For one thing, whenever there is a genetic change-an aberration-it is a mutation, and always ends up in a negative result. Never in the advancement of the species (which is not the same as natural selection). I may not be able to understand He who we call God, but I can accept His existence!
"I agree that atheism takes a lot of faith, except its faith in "it all happened somehow"

That makes NO sense. How can one have faith in "it all happened somehow?"

Since: Jun 12

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#165821 May 20, 2013
This is a silly topix anyhow. Have a great day!

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165822 May 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you are being childish again, making an assertion with no evidence.
Relax, babe. It was a joke. I apologize if I offended you.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165823 May 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Nicely done, there may be hope for you yet. That was a positive claim, and you caught me on it, I cannot prove that your god is a lie, but your religion is based on many lies, thus, it is a valid assumption until proven otherwise.
But an assumption nonetheless....

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165824 May 20, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Actually by now there are more. So how could there be so many variations all claiming to be the only one who is right? How could a god allow such a thing to go on for centuries?
I see you are unable to answer, not even a last ditch effort!
Lmfao!:))
<quoted text>
There's not 60,000 versions of Christianity so how could there be "many more"??

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165825 May 20, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Again trying to deflect and change the subject. Chop chop I actually a British term you mouth breather.
"I actually a British term"?!

O_o

What?

Is that the genius atheist showing off again?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165826 May 20, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Provide observable proof for god and I could feasibly do that.
Damn you suck at this!
<quoted text>
For the 800th, GML.

I can't.

That's between you and God.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165827 May 20, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Are leprechaun believers trying to force people to observe their rituals and beliefs in public?
Aawwww..... Has pity poor GML been FORCED to watch people pray?

I'm so sorry for your trauma. Anything I can do?

LMAO!

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165828 May 20, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
No you always ran away from this fact and you know it. It is true and I have never seen a Christian show how this is incorrect.
The onus is on you, pal. You're the one with the claim:

"Christianity states a non Christian can kill his family, go to prison, convert to Christianity and go to heaven"

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#165829 May 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Relax, babe. It was a joke. I apologize if I offended you.
Not really, I didn't realize it was a joke is all and was going to use it as an example, but if it was a joke, meh.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#165830 May 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
But an assumption nonetheless....
Yes, it's a safe and sane assumption though considering the lack of evidence. Never once have I stated there can be no god, but until I see actual, verifiable, demonstrable evidence, not just a "feeling" by anyone, including myself, I will not accept it as fact, that is what a skeptic is, we doubt everything until we can see analyze the evidence for ourselves. You seem to be assuming that I am simply denying your god, that's not it, I deny all the gods proposed by humans thus far. One day someone may discover something that is a god out there, and present verifiable and demonstrable evidence for it, then I will accept it as fact. Until then, it is nothing but mythology.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165831 May 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it's a safe and sane assumption though considering the lack of evidence. Never once have I stated there can be no god, but until I see actual, verifiable, demonstrable evidence, not just a "feeling" by anyone, including myself, I will not accept it as fact, that is what a skeptic is, we doubt everything until we can see analyze the evidence for ourselves. You seem to be assuming that I am simply denying your god, that's not it, I deny all the gods proposed by humans thus far. One day someone may discover something that is a god out there, and present verifiable and demonstrable evidence for it, then I will accept it as fact. Until then, it is nothing but mythology.
Huh...

I wonder what the skeptic in you says about Zeus or black holes or jealousy.....(Things with no evidence of)

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#165832 May 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh...
I wonder what the skeptic in you says about Zeus or black holes or jealousy.....(Things with no evidence of)
Zeus is a god, same rules apply to it as do your god.

Black holes are a catch phrase anyway to describe something that is "missing," actually. Ignore the Hollywood crap about them, utter nonsense.

Emotions we have already demonstrated how evidence for those is obtained, putting aside the completely arbitrary definitions of them.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#165833 May 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Zeus is a god, same rules apply to it as do your god.
Black holes are a catch phrase anyway to describe something that is "missing," actually. Ignore the Hollywood crap about them, utter nonsense.
Emotions we have already demonstrated how evidence for those is obtained, putting aside the completely arbitrary definitions of them.
Wait a tic!

If black holes are only Hollywood incarnations, explain how Flash Gordon made it to Mongo....

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

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#165834 May 20, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>I'll be 20 on Tuesday.
Happy birthday...tomorrow!

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#165835 May 20, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Happy birthday...tomorrow!
Thanks, HairyBetty.

I didn't even know.

Both my parents ran away before I was born.

...maybe because I snatched a pack of Camels out of her lap.

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