Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Formerly "Richard"”

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May 17, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Enjoying life.
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Loving, careing, teaching, learning, all things godbots can't do.

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The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>If we have been over this before,then you should have at least one idea that makes sense. Who said anything about "according to God's will" and "well, guess God didn't wanna answer those prayers."
Are you saying that Einstein said that fish drive cars? It sounds like you said that.
Oh you didn't, well I guess you need to read what Einstein said and what God said about prayer and belief. "Your prayers are not answered because you do not believe. The first requirement of prayer is the belief that God is, then that God is who He says He is, then that God can do what He says He can, then that God is willing and then you must believe that without doubt He will do it for you." It is math, and all elements of the equation must exist for it to work.
Einstein said that? Source. And if he did, it was a very stupid thing to say. No study has ever found proof that prayer works. Period.

Perhaps don't jump into discussions in the middle, and you won't have to ask stupid questions like who said what...

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The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>If we have been over this before,then you should have at least one idea that makes sense. Who said anything about "according to God's will" and "well, guess God didn't wanna answer those prayers."
Are you saying that Einstein said that fish drive cars? It sounds like you said that.
Oh you didn't, well I guess you need to read what Einstein said and what God said about prayer and belief. "Your prayers are not answered because you do not believe. The first requirement of prayer is the belief that God is, then that God is who He says He is, then that God can do what He says He can, then that God is willing and then you must believe that without doubt He will do it for you." It is math, and all elements of the equation must exist for it to work.
Nvm, troll, forget I even responded to you. How many times are you gonna get banned? Do you know why it's so easy to tell when it's you?

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You don't have to be ashamed, prayer is a good thing.
Prayer is a word abused or misunderstood by christians, just like so many other words (truth, morality, church, worship and love also come to mind), I am not ashamed of such abuse, I am concerned that people like you abused words.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That it's exactly the response I expected from you. Do you know how many people I've had to correct because they don't know anything about building anything, but they googled it and watch the YouTube video and all of a sudden thought that they could do it. Then someone like me has to come along behind them and fix all the mistakes or, more often, start from scratch and just do it for them.
Good luck with that. Because you can't build a dresser with a YouTube video...
Too bad you still make assumptions with zero actual evidence. Sad to be as ignorant as you.

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Matt of Akron wrote:
<quoted text>You just proved that atheists can NOT be good without God.
And you've just proved that Christians can't be good WITH god.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>You know, the sun stays fixed in it's position at the center of the solar system.

It doesn't rise and set.

But it APPEARS to rise and set because of the Earth's rotation on its axis.

If you were smarter than a five year old, you'd know that.
The sun is racing around the galaxy. It also wobbles due to gravity of the planets' orbiting it.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>HA HA !!

The old atheist adage: "I'm atheist, therefore smart."

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Old Christian adage: "I'm Christian, therefore better than non Christians."
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Do you sound like a "Speak & Spell"?
Your writing "style" suggests you may.
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If he delivers Pizza within a 25 minutes and the discussion with friends are stimulating

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>The ability for you to operate a computer better than makes you smarter than me at that, and at that only.

Funny that I can build a house better than you.

Funny that I can change a truck's clutch better than you.

Funny that I build a dresser better than you.

Etc, etc.

Does that make me smarter than you or you smarter than me?

Nope.
That you believe in Adam and Eve makes him smarter than you.
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May 17, 2013
 
"Would you Adam it?" is a Cockney expression concerning incredulity.
Not a coincidence.
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That you believe in Adam and Eve makes him smarter than you.

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Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>A wizard with magical powers would be a good friend to have. Very useful, albeit not found easily in this world.
Carlos Castaneda dared to look for magic
Peace
I've got to read those again.

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Atheism requires God to exist in order that it can exist. This causality is epistemological, not ontological, in nature. Ergo, Faith is not involved, not unless one argues that knowledge itself is a faith construct.

See?

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srcloud wrote:
Atheism requires God to exist in order that it can exist. This causality is epistemological, not ontological, in nature. Ergo, Faith is not involved, not unless one argues that knowledge itself is a faith construct.
See?
I am, and you may or may not forgive me, duty-bound to offer you the following:
http://www.srcloud.info/the-midlife-crisis/co...
So then leprechauns have to exist as well.

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The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>I do often wonder, what stops an atheist from blowing his/her head off? Seriously, what do atheists live for?
Life.

What else?

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srcloud wrote:
Atheism requires God to exist in order that it can exist. This causality is epistemological, not ontological, in nature. Ergo, Faith is not involved, not unless one argues that knowledge itself is a faith construct.

See?

I am, and you may or may not forgive me, duty-bound to offer you the following:

http://www.srcloud.info/the-midlife-crisis/co...

Atheism does seem obsessed with denying God.

Why the concern?

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The Exterminator 6 wrote:
<quoted text>I do often wonder, what stops an atheist from blowing his/her head off? Seriously, what do atheists live for?
The Creator gave them a sense of purpose, by denying Him however, they remove the rational basis for a purpose.

So they claim to have purpose whilst being unable to account for purpose...

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Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>Loving, careing, teaching, learning, all things godbots can't do.
Why should an atheist worry about caring?

Surely striving for the top of the pile is the only thing that matters.

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mtimber wrote:
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Why should an atheist worry about caring?
Surely striving for the top of the pile is the only thing that matters.
To get to the top, you need others of your species to support you. To get others of the species to support you, you must demonstrate love, caring, and empathy and must teach them and learn. Are you really that stupid?

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mtimber wrote:
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The Creator gave them a sense of purpose, by denying Him however, they remove the rational basis for a purpose.
So they claim to have purpose whilst being unable to account for purpose...
That explains nothing.

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