Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Imhotep

United States

#164350 Apr 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I knowed I's foregettin sumpin!
Sho nuf
Ain't no thing ;)
Jeejet? I'm fixin ta swallow up some good diner food
Ham and eggs and grits y'all
Imhotep

United States

#164351 Apr 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't know where you're going with this.
Are you upset that the bible is everywhere?
Are you upset that the History Channel and Discovery Channel are displaying the Bible as history?(which it is)
What?
No I love it Gideon's is free!
it's free firewood,
Even larger with Book of Mormon
Makes a good doorstop too
Even has a use out when nothing else is available
For outhouse

I like to distribute them to temples and mosques
I try to do my part for your little boy

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164352 Apr 28, 2013
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.", says Einstein.

God created man, man screwed up so bad, god killed them all, save eight, so that man could try again. As I understand, Jesus is going to come back, fight evil, lock Satan in the endless pit for 1,000 years, then start the whole process over again.

Your god is insane!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164353 Apr 28, 2013
Another brilliant comment from a christian!

"Satan was once a powerful angel of God. When God created earth and man, Satan became jealous and took some angels with him to oppose God's plan. Thus, the Spiritual World is at war. God has a plan and Satan is trying to destroy it. Satan actually acts like God to fool people. The truth is in the Bible which Satan tries to twist. Satan's plan is to not be obvious because people would flock to God."

This guy is scary!!
Imhotep

United States

#164354 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
Another brilliant comment from a christian!
"Satan was once a powerful angel of God. When God created earth and man, Satan became jealous and took some angels with him to oppose God's plan. Thus, the Spiritual World is at war. God has a plan and Satan is trying to destroy it. Satan actually acts like God to fool people. The truth is in the Bible which Satan tries to twist. Satan's plan is to not be obvious because people would flock to God."
This guy is scary!!
Scary no hilarious absolutely

This is no different than Batman versus the Joker
Superman versus Lex Luthor

This God would serve no purpose without that alter ego

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164355 Apr 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Scary no hilarious absolutely
This is no different than Batman versus the Joker
Superman versus Lex Luthor
This God would serve no purpose without that alter ego
He is the same guy who wrote this, "In simple terms, if God orders a killing, it is the will of God and okay. However, confirmation must be made it was truly God."

He is just one step away from helping his god rid the Earth of evil people!

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164358 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
Interesting. I don't remember saying that I had complete trust, i.e. faith, that leprechauns or a god, do or do not exist. In fact, I am quite sure that I said the exact opposite.
Interesting indeed.... You wrote:

"But I don't have complete trust that there is no god. I don't have complete trust that there are no leprechauns.
Just because I have seen equal evidence for both, I does not mean that I know that they don't exist."

Which is a statement of your faith. I didn't say anything about what your faith is, just that you posted a statement about it.

I don't understand, what is it you want me to debate you about when you post aboput your own faith about God and leprechauns?

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#164361 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>I think he wants proof that those leprechauns exist, so he can explain the strange sounds around in his basement. Take your time, I suspect that he will require proof that unicorns exist too.
There's about as much evidence of the existence of a supreme omniscient being as there is for leprechauns and unicorns.

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#164362 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Obviously, I wanted to know if you felt the same way.
Well wasnt sure the context of the question, and where it was directed to... OT, yes God commanded killings by men of many people.
Isn't the Holy Spirit, God?
Yes.
Want would it take to convince you?
Its a simple distinction between feeling good or bad about not doing what God asked me to do. His sheep know his voice, i would know if God asked this of me and if i felt the strong urge to do it..
God has not asked you to kill; he has demanded that you kill.
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What did Jesus say about God's laws? Didn't he say that not one dot shall be removed from the law until heaven and Earth pass away?
How do you justify ignoring God and Jesus?
Where has God asked or demenaded Christians to kill in the NT?

Thats easy to descern for most.

You like many others, are trying to apply the OT with the NT..

The context here is that this was towards the beginning of Jesus' ministry; Jesus was now ready to give more detailed teaching to His disciples, many of whom would be instrumental in laying the foundations of the Church. Jesus wanted to ensure that the disciples correctly understood that the Old Testament still held a valid place in the Scriptures..

Matthew 5;18
For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

The preceding verses were so opposed to the teachings of the scribes and Pharisees that some might assert that he was a destroyer of the law. He replies that he has not come to destroy it, but to fulfil. He does not say that he has come to perpetuate it. To fulfil. To complete its purpose. He was the end of the law. It was a "schoolmaster to bring us to Christ" (Gal. 3:24), but "after faith is come we are no longer under the schoolmaster."
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#164364 Apr 28, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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There's about as much evidence of the existence of a supreme omniscient being as there is for leprechauns and unicorns.
Really? So how many manuscripts or historical documents have been found on your leprechauns and unicorns?

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#164365 Apr 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Actually that's your problem, Allah willing you shall see 'the truth'(Unmasked sarcasm) ;)
Peace on earth?
Not as long as organized religion exists.
Thou art big on thy Bible...
The four angels were loosed to slay the third part of men.--Revelation 9:15
What color wings did they have? do you know
Mail angels or female angels?
Where they gay angels?
I have questions. ;)
And very foolish ones at that..

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#164366 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Then go find you a leprechaun or unicorn, or perhaps you can find at least one of those millions of alleged black holes in our singular universe. Don't you think if you found a black hole you might find those leprechauns and unicorns?
I haven't made any claims that leprechauns or unicorns exist, ergo there is no need for me to find them.

Black holes have been observed, their existence is a fact...something your god lacks...physical evidence of its existence

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#164367 Apr 28, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
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Really? So how many manuscripts or historical documents have been found on your leprechauns and unicorns?
there are plenty of manuscripts about leprechauns and unicorns...and yet they are mythological beings just like your god

how many manuscripts and historical documents were written about Jesus when he supposedly lived?

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164368 Apr 28, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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I haven't made any claims that leprechauns or unicorns exist, ergo there is no need for me to find them.
Black holes have been observed, their existence is a fact...something your god lacks...physical evidence of its existence
Black holes have never been observed, only their supposed effects.

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#164369 Apr 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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RUBBISH
Know GOD?
"Know" nothing.
No GOD?
No Problem
Your problem is simply RELIGION
Nope not in the least,, that is ''your'' problem! I have salvation through the Grace of God by his Son Jesus Christ. I dont have to depend on or do good works and dress a certain way or pay enough tiths to recieve Eternal life. JESUS done the only thing i needed to have Eternal life. Organized religion was rejected by Jesus, thats why he came was to abolish the OT religious acts..
The Christian view that all intercourse outside marriage is immoral was based upon the view that all sexual intercourse, even within marriage, is regrettable.
your opinion.
A view of this sort, which goes against biological facts, can only be regarded by some people as a morbid aberration. The fact that it is embedded in Christian ethics has made Christianity throughout its whole history a force tending towards mental disorders and unwholesome views of life.
The Church had devastating impact upon society. As the Church assumed leadership, activity in the fields of medicine, technology, science, education, history, art and commerce all but collapsed.
I disagree totaly. Its the unethical laws of man and the sinful nature in them that has destroyed society.. Hmm i hear from other athiest and sciency people, that science is booming and the church is fadeing away..
Technology disappeared and the Church became the most cohesive power in Western society. The extensive aqueduct and plumbing systems vanished.
lol, really you going to blame that on Christianity/God??
Orthodox Christians taught that all aspects of the flesh should be reviled and therefore discouraged washing as much as possible.
Toilets and indoor plumbing disappeared. Disease became commonplace as sanitation and hygiene deteriorated. For hundreds of years, towns and villages were decimated by epidemics.
Europe entered the Dark Ages. NUFF SAID!
Toilets and plumbing disappeard??? Dude you are wacked, u a piece of bologna shy of a sammi..

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#164370 Apr 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Actually that's your problem, Allah willing you shall see 'the truth'(Unmasked sarcasm) ;)
allah,, huh... The difference in Christians and muslims, is if a Christian were to attempt to convert an unbeliever and they reject, well a Christian would just walk away. On the other hand a muslim may kill you!
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#164371 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
Another brilliant comment from a christian!
"Satan was once a powerful angel of God. When God created earth and man, Satan became jealous and took some angels with him to oppose God's plan. Thus, the Spiritual World is at war. God has a plan and Satan is trying to destroy it. Satan actually acts like God to fool people. The truth is in the Bible which Satan tries to twist. Satan's plan is to not be obvious because people would flock to God."
This guy is scary!!
You call it scary, I would call it pathetic. From children you would expect this,a scary story that is totally fictional, kind of like the troll under the bridge in the billy goats gruff, but why am I so shocked to hear this from a supposed adult? Who, with even small amount of intelligence, could accept something like this as being true? The fact that anyone could believe something look this is scary, the person, becomes a pathetic mentally handicapped individual.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#164373 Apr 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Black holes have never been observed, only their supposed effects.
Just like one full orbit of Pluto has never been observed, yet science KNOWS it takes 231 years, Yeah I know,,,,"How is that even possible." It must be horrible to be so scientifically illiterate. Especially in this day and age of abundant and easily accessible information. Poor you!!!!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164375 Apr 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Interesting indeed.... You wrote:
"But I don't have complete trust that there is no god. I don't have complete trust that there are no leprechauns.
Just because I have seen equal evidence for both, I does not mean that I know that they don't exist."
Which is a statement of your faith. I didn't say anything about what your faith is, just that you posted a statement about it.
I don't understand, what is it you want me to debate you about when you post aboput your own faith about God and leprechauns?
Did we establish that faith was complete trust in someone or something?

Didn't I say that I do not have complete trust in a god or that there is no god? Ergo, I do not have faith.
christianity is EVIL

Lower Sackville, Canada

#164377 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>If you reject that there is a God, then God ordered no killing, it was just man deciding to kill. Now, if you accept as you claim that God ordered a killing, then you accept that He is Go and not a man. So, that his killing is even less so than you killing time or killing an ant. I am certain that the ant screams at you "murderer". Also, consider that you to God are another life form, like plants. So, each time you step on grass, the grass would scream " murderer, murderer".
On the other hand if you accept that animals and plants are here for our purpose, then you must accept that the giver of that purpose, God, put us here for his purpose.
The thing that you must know is this, God gives life and appoints the time. If you live to be 120, then so be it. If God decides that you are a waste of air and space, then your life may be cut-off at age 20. So, stop killing time, it may scream at you "murderer, murderer".
IF god interferes in your life in you can NOT have free will,..

can you prove god exist?

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