Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163919 Apr 22, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>That is not view, just the position of a coward.
It's called intellectual integrity.

Something you are completely lacking in.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#163920 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
What is it that you say about a claim without evidence?
Sure, pal. Sure.
Oh, that doesn't apply to them. They can make all the claims and false charges they want without having to defend them.

Just try to get them to take a position on anything, they won't.

You can't even get them to take a position that the sky is blue or water is wet.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163921 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Another baseless atheist claim?

Unless you think you can provide evidence that they are as firm in their beliefs as I am mine.

Or what they "know" compared to what I "know".

Go ahead. Provide evidence...
That they are willing to blow themselves up to meet THEIR god is more than adequate evidence that they not only believe as strongly as you do, but their beliefs are actually much stronger than yours.

Unless of course, you're willing to blow YOURself up for your god.

If you do, could you post video?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163922 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Um ok.

....but I'm the "top".
Your head will be spinning Ike one.

I've got hands.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#163923 Apr 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called intellectual integrity.
Something you are completely lacking in.
Nope, plain cowardice!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163924 Apr 22, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, plain cowardice!
Ok.

You're a coward too.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#163925 Apr 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok.
You're a coward too.
Then take a position, coward.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#163926 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, I'm not saying that at all. You made two very distinct, very exact claims.
Anon wrote:
Allah touches their heads also. You don't have a monopoly on deity groping.
Those claims are baseless, unless you think you can provide evidence to support them.
I'll simplify this. If a Muslim declares that Allah touched his head and spoke to him, which is the same experience you claim was bestowed upon you by Jesus, would you give him any credence, or would you say he's delusional?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163927 Apr 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sorry, just LMFAO and spiking the football.... Again.:)
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/who-is-...
Clearly as I stated.
Theist? Check BIG TIME!
Islamic? Check!
Terrorists? Check!
:knowing smile:
You may return to work now ditch digger. LMFAO!
<quoted text>
Because GML says so?

Lol, you don't understand what evidence is, do you?

Am I supposed take your word for it?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163928 Apr 22, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, that doesn't apply to them. They can make all the claims and false charges they want without having to defend them.
Just try to get them to take a position on anything, they won't.
You can't even get them to take a position that the sky is blue or water is wet.
Yup. I've backed them in a corner, asking them to provide evidence, right here on Topix, that they have hands.

It's a ridiculous request of course, but none of them will admit that they can't prove they have hands....

Their egos are far too inflated.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163929 Apr 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
That they are willing to blow themselves up to meet THEIR god is more than adequate evidence that they not only believe as strongly as you do, but their beliefs are actually much stronger than yours.
Unless of course, you're willing to blow YOURself up for your god.
If you do, could you post video?
Really? So you assume they blow themselves up for their belief and then claim that their faith is as strong as mine.

It's your claim. Prove it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163930 Apr 22, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So you worship the same god as the muslims.
<quoted text>
Nope. I'm not muslim.

Try again.

(except this time..........think)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163931 Apr 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Your head will be spinning Ike one.
I've got hands.
BUT....

You've yet to provide sufficient evidence, or ANY evidence, to confirm your claim.

So I'll assume it's just a myth.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163932 Apr 22, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll simplify this. If a Muslim declares that Allah touched his head and spoke to him, which is the same experience you claim was bestowed upon you by Jesus, would you give him any credence, or would you say he's delusional?
Oh.... Now it's "IF", is it?

So then you don't know of any Muslim that claims to have their head touched by Allah?

So you're a liar?
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#163933 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh.... Now it's "IF", is it?
So then you don't know of any Muslim that claims to have their head touched by Allah?
So you're a liar?
Don't try a smokescreen tactic. Answer the question...
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#163934 Apr 22, 2013
So you worship the same god as the muslims and the jews.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. I'm not muslim.
Try again.
(except this time..........think)
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#163935 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
BUT....
You've yet to provide sufficient evidence, or ANY evidence, to confirm your claim.
So I'll assume it's just a myth.
Not sure if you are aware of this,
Gentlemen:

The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is:

1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.

If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that
occurs naturally, you’ve toppled my proof. All you need is one.

Perry Marshall

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/dna-atheist...

Good resources

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163936 Apr 22, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't try a smokescreen tactic. Answer the question...
If a Muslim told me that their god touched them, I wouldn't believe them, but I'd know they believe it.

Now answer mine. You wrote

Anon wrote:
Allah touches their heads also. You don't have a monopoly on deity groping.

Which is a baseless claim, yes? Your opinion, yes?
Unless you can provide evidence of a Muslim with that claim, or preferably many Muslims.

And you'd also have to provide evidence that I don't have said monopoly.

Or you can just admit its your opinion and a claim you have no evidence for....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163937 Apr 22, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So you worship the same god as the muslims and the jews.
<quoted text>
Jews, yes.

Muslims, no.

If you have a point, that'd be great!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163938 Apr 22, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure if you are aware of this,
Gentlemen:
The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is:
1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.
If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that
occurs naturally, you’ve toppled my proof. All you need is one.
Perry Marshall
http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/dna-atheist...
Good resources
Absolutely, DNA was created.

I believe so, anyway.

There's no evidence to suggest it wasn't.

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