Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163505 Apr 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yet your god spoke directly to Jephthah several times and could have easily stopped him with but a word. Worse after Jephthah roasted his daughter for your god he was proclaimed a hero from then after. He is praised not vilified even in the New Testament and in all churches to this day.
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I'm not surprised you misunderstand. You do that a lot with bible verses and stories.

There is a point to Judges 11. There's also deep meaning to it. Can you guess what it is?(since you don't know, make a guess)

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163506 Apr 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Best read your bible again before making a jackass out of yourself.
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Maybe you should start, instead of reading bible verses from atheist websites....

Immanuel means "God with us", that doesn't mean Jesus' name was supposed to be Immanuel.

Dipshit.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163507 Apr 15, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>So, his name's not his name, his Dad's not his Dad (so his entire geneology is fiction), and he died but got all better?
Erm, have you thought about this at all?
Of course. Have you?

Immanuel, Emmanuel or Imanu'el is a Hebrew phrase meaning "God is with us", it's not a name.

It's a symbolic name only.

Why do atheists pretend to know do much about a bible and a god they claim to not believe in?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#163508 Apr 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Maybe you should start, instead of reading bible verses from atheist websites....
Immanuel means "God with us", that doesn't mean Jesus' name was supposed to be Immanuel.
Dipshit.
Abahu, a Hebrew name for a boy, means "The Lord is my father."

Gal, for a boy, means "wave," in Hebrew.

As a Hebrew name for a girl, Hadara means "Splendour; beautiful."

Givona for a girl means "hill" in Hebrew.

Miranda in Latin means "She who must be admired."

....

Almost all names with origins from prior to about 100 years ago, and in many countries even today, are all actual words, with meanings, typically phrases or titles. It was suppose to be a name, that's what the capital letter means, proper noun.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#163509 Apr 15, 2013
The Jephthah story's moral is you keep your promise to Yahweh no matter how painful it is.

Straight from a Rabbi, care to argue with him?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not surprised you misunderstand. You do that a lot with bible verses and stories.

There is a point to Judges 11. There's also deep meaning to it. Can you guess what it is?(since you don't know, make a guess)

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#163510 Apr 15, 2013
May I suggest you read the bible cover to cover with no apologetic help? Often Christholes like to start at the end of the myth and work backwards.

Start at the Old Testament and note clearly all the messianic prophecies as stated not the apologetic excuse for them. After that work your way into the New Testament and see how well they match up.

After you get a hearty laugh there enjoy all the contradictions between the gospels. Separating the actual letters of Paul vs forgeries can come later :)
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you should start, instead of reading bible verses from atheist websites....

Immanuel means "God with us", that doesn't mean Jesus' name was supposed to be Immanuel.

Dipshit.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#163511 Apr 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Says the liar with no proof of atheism.
Proof of atheism?

Have you gone mad?
Lincoln

United States

#163512 Apr 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
May I suggest you read the bible cover to cover with no apologetic help? Often Christholes like to start at the end of the myth and work backwards.
Start at the Old Testament and note clearly all the messianic prophecies as stated not the apologetic excuse for them. After that work your way into the New Testament and see how well they match up.
After you get a hearty laugh there enjoy all the contradictions between the gospels. Separating the actual letters of Paul vs forgeries can come later :)
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Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.

Givemeliberty, as a fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#163513 Apr 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.
Givemeliberty, as a fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing
Right, another words everything it say's......means something else.
That's what we thought because..... none of you make any sense!

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163514 Apr 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Of course. Have you?
Immanuel, Emmanuel or Imanu'el is a Hebrew phrase meaning "God is with us", it's not a name.
It's a symbolic name only.
Why do atheists pretend to know do much about a bible and a god they claim to not believe in?
Oh, i see.

That's another one of those squirrely bits where the bible doesn't mean what it clearly says, it means what your preacher says it means.

Gottit.

Even if I accept THAT, what of geneaology? The day-and-a-half dirt nap? The wildly differing accounts of his life and death, by supposed eyewitnesses?
More allegory, misinterpretation and symbolism?

Don't bother to answer. I've read the thing.
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#163515 Apr 16, 2013
Which is what separates us from most believers.
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I've read the thing.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163516 Apr 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Which is what separates us from most believers.
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*sigh*

Yes.
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#163517 Apr 16, 2013
Always scan the small print.

:)
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>*sigh*
Yes.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163518 Apr 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Always scan the small print.
:)
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All it takes is reading the thing _de novo_. Without interpretations, interpolations, or people who are trying to sell something.
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#163519 Apr 16, 2013
Look out for over politeness too... spider sense is tingling. Snake oil for sale.
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>All it takes is reading the thing _de novo_. Without interpretations, interpolations, or people who are trying to sell something.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163520 Apr 16, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.
Givemeliberty, as a fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing
1. Givemeliberty is not a fundamentalist.
2. You have no proof of god and are a failed troll.
Lincoln

United States

#163521 Apr 16, 2013
“Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.”
Albert Einstein,
The World as I See It
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#163522 Apr 16, 2013
From Yahoo answers:

Keep in mind, Einstein didn't believe in any kind of a personal god that answers prayers or does miracles or actually does *anything* in the universe...this quote is more than likely poking fun at people who claim coincidences are "miracles."
Lincoln wrote:
“Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.”
Albert Einstein,
The World as I See It
Lincoln

United States

#163523 Apr 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
From Yahoo answers:
Keep in mind, Einstein didn't believe in any kind of a personal god that answers prayers or does miracles or actually does *anything* in the universe...this quote is more than likely poking fun at people who claim coincidences are "miracles."
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Thanks
People in their journey through life often vary their beliefs from time to time.
Doubt if arguments of metaphysics have winners.

Good Article in Sunday New York Times, April 7th on Dialogue between believers and non believers.
Imhotep

Saint Petersburg, FL

#163524 Apr 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
May I suggest you read the bible cover to cover with no apologetic help? Often Christholes like to start at the end of the myth and work backwards.
Start at the Old Testament and note clearly all the messianic prophecies as stated not the apologetic excuse for them. After that work your way into the New Testament and see how well they match up.
After you get a hearty laugh there enjoy all the contradictions between the gospels. Separating the actual letters of Paul vs forgeries can come later :)
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OT is exclusively a Jewish book the - Pentateuch
NT is a rewrite, modify of the OT - Bible

Both are pure mythology.

There is no papyrus, no Dead Sea scroll no written Egyptian or Roman or Greek history that recognizes Moses or Jesus ever existed or walked on the face of the earth.

For this tale one must consult either OT or the NT

Apologists have always been necessary to explain the nonsense contained within these.

Not only is the Bible the most popular selling book world is also the least read!

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