Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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I doubt it.
Because you're not a freethinker, you're a slavethinker.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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If it was a long haired, white guy it was Jesus.
Unless, of course, Jesus really looked like a middle easterner.
LOL, I'll agree with ya there.

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Ya, it also could've been the ghost of Henry Ford...
But it wasn't. It was God.
But you don't know that.

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<quoted text>Because you're not a freethinker, you're a slavethinker.
What exactly am I a slave to?

You're the one that's hopelessly locked into a mindset that's thousands of years old with little or no tolerance for new or contradictory knowledge, no tolerance for doubt, no use for reason, and you say *I'm* a "slave thinker"?

Seriously?!

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Mar 28, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Agnostic atheist is an oxymoron.
A true atheist does not believe in the existence of deities. They just don't.
So how could someone that doesn't believe in the existence of deities also not "know for sure" if deities exist?
How is the term “agnostic atheist” an oxymoron?

Nothing in the rest of your post supports its first sentence.

The second sentence is precisely correct. An atheist does not believe in the existence of deities... and that's it. That's all that's required to be an atheist >>> A lack of belief that deities exist; Rejection of the theists' assertions that deities exist.

Agnostic means “without knowledge”(pertaining to the existence of deities).

Atheist means “without belief”(ditto).

As much as a person may shy away the label, if they don't believe at least one deity exists, then they ARE an atheist... no ifs, and, or buts about it. What they don't know has nothing to do with it and goes without saying... everyone's agnostic.

Your question isn't logically stated. Belief and knowledge are two different things. The latter can be considered a subset of the former. If someone knows something, then they must also have a belief about it. Conversely... they don't have to know something to have or not have a belief about it.

Like you...

You don't know there's a god... but, you believe one exists.

And me...

I don't know there isn't a god... but, I don't believe any exist.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because I know.
How do you know when you're in love?
How do you know when you're jealous?
*shrugs*
You just do.
But go on, prove you love your mother.
I'll wait.
Both, love and jealousy, are demonstrable.

Your god isn't.

Mothers exist. Mothers are proof that mothers exist. Sons and daughters are proof that mothers exist.

You have no proof your god exists.

You are comparing your god to an emotion... and NOT to one capable of demonstrating an emotion >>> a mother or a son or a daughter.

It's a false analogy... and one that *doesn't* work in your favor.

B'cuz...

What you're saying is that your god is nothing but an emotion... a feeling.

And...

I *know* that isn't your intention.

Even though...

I wouldn't disagree.
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Mar 28, 2013
 
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Both, love and jealousy, are demonstrable.
Your god isn't.
Mothers exist. Mothers are proof that mothers exist. Sons and daughters are proof that mothers exist.
You have no proof your god exists.
You are comparing your god to an emotion... and NOT to one capable of demonstrating an emotion >>> a mother or a son or a daughter.
It's a false analogy... and one that *doesn't* work in your favor.
B'cuz...
What you're saying is that your god is nothing but an emotion... a feeling.
And...
I *know* that isn't your intention.
Even though...
I wouldn't disagree.
But damaged goods like you, for your own good, need to pretend that your love mother loves you! HAHAHAAHAH!!!

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Largelanguage wrote:
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But damaged goods like you, for your own good, need to pretend that your love mother loves you! HAHAHAAHAH!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Mar 28, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I understand.
But my default position is that I didn't hallucinate.
I doubt anyone could convince me otherwise.
I'm not a super spiritual kinda guy, I've never "spoken in tongues", I don't believe in ghosts or auras or karma...
None of that crap.
Why don't you believe in any of that "crap"?

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Mar 28, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, it also could've been the ghost of Henry Ford...
But it wasn't. It was God.
Could've been a ghost?

You said you don't believe in any of that crap.
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Mar 28, 2013
 
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Could've been a ghost?
You said you don't believe in any of that crap.
And it could have been a ghost that loved you in a dream, not your mother.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Largelanguage wrote:
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And it could have been a ghost that loved you in a dream, not your mother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Could've been a ghost?
You said you don't believe in any of that crap.
RiversideRedneck has said he believes in the supernatural.

That means that, within his mind he's opened the door for the possible existence of werewolves, witches, vampires, ghosts, golems, and all sorts of fanciful supernatural creatures, beings and entities.

Even leprechauns.

It matters not if he say he doesn't "believe" in those components of the "supernatural".

They're all part of it. The Jesus!, too.

I wonder if a werewolf bit the Jesus, if he'd turn into one...<ahem>..back when he was "alive"?~/

Hahahaa...these damn supernatural myths are funny.
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Mar 28, 2013
 
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
When you were little, did you try to cheer your mother up with the radio and TV, but she still throwed stuff at you, beat you, rejected you, and still hated you?

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Hey cool.
The USS Voyager was an Intrepid class starship.
:)
And you are a space cadet..lol

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Awwwww isn't that cute how I have stumped the chump an he has been reduced to this?

First Buck, then Dave now you. How I wish you Christians actually had the IQ to debate, sadly again and again we see you just can't.

Your failure is complete puppet, do keep dancing.
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<quoted text>Far out...

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I understand.
But my default position is that I didn't hallucinate.
I doubt anyone could convince me otherwise.
I'm not a super spiritual kinda guy, I've never "spoken in tongues", I don't believe in ghosts or auras or karma...
None of that crap.
You gotta be shittin me , you don't think I'm real? Aura is real, I even have a paint named after me.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> You gotta be shittin me , you don't think I'm real? Aura is real, I even have a paint named after me.
LOL!

Thanks, Aura.

Had a rotten day.

Ya made me laugh.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
scaritual wrote:
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I wonder if a werewolf bit the Jesus, if he'd turn into one...<ahem>..back when he was "alive"?~/
Why does that make me think of Ken Ham?

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Largelanguage wrote:
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Obviously you must be pretty dumb to assume kids can fall in love. What gets me so angry is older people my age, or maybe older assuming that teenagers can fall in love.
And these same people in their late 50's or 60's also assume they were actually in love when they were kids. HA!
Sad for you. Ever try not being a bitter, crusty, hatefull dickhead? You might find you have a chance in life, and at loving someone if you pull the stick out of your ass. You would be suprised how great life can be with a glass half full.

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