Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#161897 Mar 24, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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And yet you have zero maths knowledge.
No, I have planet of math knowledge, just not calculus.

And I know it isn't spelled "maths".....

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#161898 Mar 24, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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How do you know God?
Obviously emotions CAN be described, if you at least have basic adult mentality.
Obviously you don't know yourself unfortunately, and are stuck between a limbo where you have to lie to yourself, because you are a mystery, that you try to avoid.
I know God because He has spoken to me.

I know God through what He does in my life.

And I don't give a red rat's ass if you believe me.

“The eye has it...”

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#161899 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Sounds like the nutcase liberals of today to me. They want to change everything.
It's obvious you are a conservative.

You've wanted nothing to change.

I'm guessing your cutoff date for what you deem "accepted" change was 1966. Who knows.

Civilizations and societies change, Dave.

Continually.

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#161900 Mar 24, 2013
Zing! Did I call I or did I call it?
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor Topix atheists.

They don't know what they believe in, don't believe in, or even what they are against. They just yammer, and quote comedians in support of what they don't know.

It all stems from reaction to one old book, and the civilization built around it, not any great intellectual insight. The disaffected. So they screech a lot.

They want a new world built upon that same civilization.

But alas, they lack the brains or maturity to maintain one, even if they could create it.

Since: Mar 11

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#161901 Mar 24, 2013
Lmfao! Dave is one of those that think the atheism movement is part of the illuminati!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha!!
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>" History

The movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria) as the Order of the Illuminati, with an initial membership of five,[2] by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830),[3] who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.[1] It was made up of freethinkers as an offshoot of the Enlightenment and seems to have been modeled on the Freemasons.[4] The Illuminati's members took a vow of secrecy and pledged obedience to their superiors. Members were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees, and many Illuminati chapters drew membership from existing Masonic lodges."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

"and pledged obedience to their superiors"

?

Free thinkers?

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#161902 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Astrology & physics aren't the only means of acquiring intelligence, athibot.
You do know the difference between Astrology and Astronomy?

Well I guess that shows us how effective your method of acquiring knowledge is.

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#161903 Mar 24, 2013
Two hayabusa engines on mine :)
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I'm gonna mount a quad .50 on mine.

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#161904 Mar 24, 2013
As usual you are unable to back up your assertions.

I humbly accept your defeat.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Cuz it's a Loser.

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#161905 Mar 24, 2013
As if RR ever took algebra! Lol!
Largelanguage wrote:
<quoted text>How was that? Since you didn't pay attention in algebra, especially letters in algebra, and calculas.

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#161906 Mar 24, 2013
What about Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster Dave? Are they in on it as well?

I can't believe you are really this stupid.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>"Contemporary opinion
Main article: Illuminati

John Robison, a professor of natural philosophy at Edinburgh University in Scotland and a member of a Freemason Lodge there, said he had been asked to join the Illuminati. After consideration he concluded that the Illuminati were not for him. In 1798 he published a book called Proofs of a Conspiracy in which he wrote: "An association has been formed for the express purposes of rooting out all the religious establishments and overturning all existing governments ... the leaders would rule the World with uncontrollable power, while all the rest would be employed as tools of the ambition of their unknown superiors." This book was sent to George Washington, who replied:

It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of separation)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt

Sounds like the nutcase liberals of today to me. They want to change everything.

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#161907 Mar 24, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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It's obvious you are a conservative.
You've wanted nothing to change.
I'm guessing your cutoff date for what you deem "accepted" change was 1966. Who knows.
Civilizations and societies change, Dave.
Continually.
You would be utterly amazed and astounded as to what my real political leanings are.

However I have learned things from history. There is a mindset that needs to be eliminated before such can truly take hold.

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#161908 Mar 24, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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You do know the difference between Astrology and Astronomy?
Well I guess that shows us how effective your method of acquiring knowledge is.
Yes I know the difference, it was a typo.

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#161909 Mar 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
As if RR ever took algebra! Lol!
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I did take algebra - I high school.

There was no need for me to advance my knowledge in that subject.

And now I've forgotten most of it. You know, if you don't use it, you lose it....

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#161910 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes I know the difference, it was a typo.
You said astrology, now it's astronomy.

Name the typo. The "l"? the "g"?

Lake of fire for you dude, your pants are on fire already.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#161911 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, I have planet of math knowledge, just not calculus.
And I know it isn't spelled "maths".....
This statement alone speaks volumes, Calculus is the corner stone of all Science and Engineering.

“Formerly "Richard"”

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In the beginning e=mc^2

#161912 Mar 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Zing! Did I call I or did I call it?
<quoted text>
You called it.

He just can't help himself.

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#161913 Mar 24, 2013
"Philosophically, as a materialist creature, the bourgeois man was irreligious; thus, to establish an existential distinction between the supernatural faith of the Roman Catholic Church and the materialist faith of temporal religion; in The Autarchy of Culture: Intellectuals and Fascism in the 1930s, the priest Giuseppe Marino said that:

Christianity is essentially anti-bourgeois ... A Christian, a true Christian, and thus a Catholic, is the opposite of a bourgeois.[13]

Culturally, the bourgeois man is unmanly, effeminate, and infantile; describing his philistinism in Bonifica antiborghese (1939), Roberto Paravese said that the:

Middle class, middle man, incapable of great virtue or great vice: and there would be nothing wrong with that, if only he would be willing to remain as such; but, when his child-like or feminine tendency to camouflage pushes him to dream of grandeur, honours, and thus riches, which he cannot achieve honestly with his own "second-rate" powers, then the average man compensates with cunning, schemes, and mischief; he kicks out ethics, and becomes a bourgeois.

The bourgeois is the average man who does not accept to remain such, and who, lacking the strength sufficient for the conquest of essential values -- those of the spirit -- opts for material ones, for appearances.[14]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie

Interesting observations.

“Formerly "Richard"”

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In the beginning e=mc^2

#161914 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
"Philosophically, as a materialist creature, the bourgeois man was irreligious; thus, to establish an existential distinction between the supernatural faith of the Roman Catholic Church and the materialist faith of temporal religion; in The Autarchy of Culture: Intellectuals and Fascism in the 1930s, the priest Giuseppe Marino said that:
Christianity is essentially anti-bourgeois ... A Christian, a true Christian, and thus a Catholic, is the opposite of a bourgeois.[13]
Culturally, the bourgeois man is unmanly, effeminate, and infantile; describing his philistinism in Bonifica antiborghese (1939), Roberto Paravese said that the:
Middle class, middle man, incapable of great virtue or great vice: and there would be nothing wrong with that, if only he would be willing to remain as such; but, when his child-like or feminine tendency to camouflage pushes him to dream of grandeur, honours, and thus riches, which he cannot achieve honestly with his own "second-rate" powers, then the average man compensates with cunning, schemes, and mischief; he kicks out ethics, and becomes a bourgeois.
The bourgeois is the average man who does not accept to remain such, and who, lacking the strength sufficient for the conquest of essential values -- those of the spirit -- opts for material ones, for appearances.[14]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie
Interesting observations.
Just remember:-
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#161919 Mar 24, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You said astrology, now it's astronomy.
Name the typo. The "l"? the "g"?
Lake of fire for you dude, your pants are on fire already.
iPhone, dude.

Autocorrect, dude.

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#161920 Mar 24, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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This statement alone speaks volumes, Calculus is the corner stone of all Science and Engineering.
I know.

I don't understand calculus.

Big deal.

I don't have to in my profession.

No more than physicist needs to know the difference between a jigsaw and a bandsaw....

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