Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#161834 Mar 24, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I call Stewart a prophet?
No.
Did I claim science as an atheist invention?
No.
Did Stewart?
I dunno. Did he?
Did I say science has disproved a creator?
No.
"All modern science was started and enabled by theists."
If that's true, then it happened in spite of them being theists, not because of it.
Anything else I can clear up for ya, Dave?

The earliest scientist's sought to confirm what clergy told them.
Then they only sought only to tell the truth about what they found.
Unfortunately some of them were punished for this and the truth was suppressed. The reason most were religious , is that all were religious, since 325 to 1900. There simply was no thought of atheism. So your saying in spite of being religious, is true but conditional.

The spite was something that had to be learned , and learn they did , so they formed the Illuminati out of fear and resentment.
But they eventually won, humans can only be suppressed but for so long. The cat finally got out the bag.
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#161835 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
They never had the spark of true intellect struck within their heads. They got so very dependent on others telling them they are intellectual because they follow the line they are being fed, acting upon their emotions, that they can never strike it on their own.
Animated puppets dancing to the tune of others. Collections of mass and energy being directed from without.
Quite true, look at the rent-a-mob demonstrations in favour of left wing causes. The overwhelming majority of those mobs are herded like sheep by one or two professional career 'socialists' and the ones who organised it arent even there but probably in some swish restaurant on some sort of government grant.
It is 'groupthink' as they have forgotten or been indoctrinated not to think for themselves.
As a result you get stupid crap posted when these professional victims cannot respond rationally.
Like the crap below.....
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you hate bunnies?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#161836 Mar 24, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you hate bunnies?
All dimly lit fundies do.

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#161837 Mar 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
The earliest scientist's sought to confirm what clergy told them.
Then they only sought only to tell the truth about what they found.
Unfortunately some of them were punished for this and the truth was suppressed. The reason most were religious , is that all were religious, since 325 to 1900. There simply was no thought of atheism. So your saying in spite of being religious, is true but conditional.
The spite was something that had to be learned , and learn they did , so they formed the Illuminati out of fear and resentment.
But they eventually won, humans can only be suppressed but for so long. The cat finally got out the bag.
" History

The movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria) as the Order of the Illuminati, with an initial membership of five,[2] by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830),[3] who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.[1] It was made up of freethinkers as an offshoot of the Enlightenment and seems to have been modeled on the Freemasons.[4] The Illuminati's members took a vow of secrecy and pledged obedience to their superiors. Members were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees, and many Illuminati chapters drew membership from existing Masonic lodges."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

"and pledged obedience to their superiors"

?

Free thinkers?
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#161838 Mar 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> All dimly lit fundies do.
Great......another poof

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#161839 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
They never had the spark of true intellect struck within their heads. They got so very dependent on others telling them they are intellectual because they follow the line they are being fed, acting upon their emotions, that they can never strike it on their own.
Animated puppets dancing to the tune of others. Collections of mass and energy being directed from without.
Been banging your head against the wall again, Dave?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#161840 Mar 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I have some iron chariots just in case :)
<quoted text>
I'm gonna mount a quad .50 on mine.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#161841 Mar 24, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
The dog and me have hike to go on... rain be damned.
Later, all.
A good friend will take a walk in the woods with you, even in the rain.
A best friend will carry the shovel and help drag the body.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#161842 Mar 24, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Great......another poof
Why you so full of hate?
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#161843 Mar 24, 2013
You call nearly everyone else gay... I say you're projecting.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Great......another poof

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161844 Mar 24, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
What? Me kid about the intelligence of a godbot, no never.
Astrology & physics aren't the only means of acquiring intelligence, athibot.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161845 Mar 24, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet you argue against them constantly to maintain your delusion.
That's where you lose the right to respect.
There are tons of books and websites aimed at the non scientist that explain these things with great clarity.
Why not read up on some of them before spouting off about how wrong they must be because they don't fit your religious views.
Because listening to you whine, complain and froth at the mouth is much more entertaining.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161846 Mar 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Link or fail.
<quoted text>
Cuz it's to hard for you to go to page 7777 of this thread?

Loser.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#161847 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor Topix atheists.

They don't know what they believe in, don't believe in, or even what they are against. They just yammer, and quote comedians in support of what they don't know.

It all stems from reaction to one old book, and the civilization built around it, not any great intellectual insight. The disaffected. So they screech a lot.

They want a new world built upon that same civilization.

But alas, they lack the brains or maturity to maintain one, even if they could create it.
Keep trying, Dave.

I'm sure somebody, somewhere thinks you're smart.

Besides you, that is.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#161848 Mar 24, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>Topix atheists seem to be more concerned with a shrink wrapped version of marxism as in the Frankfurt School variety.
To follow their marxist beliefs they must declare themselves enemies of God, it is mandatory.
Hating God is just a means to an end to them, if it were an end in itself then they would have more ability to prove the 'non existence of God' but they have proven nothing.
Buddhists and Jains are non-theist but the Topix atheists hate them as well. Why? Because they have a definite sense of morals and behaviour as well as good and evil.
It is not 'relative' to them as it is with atheists.
Communist/Atheist China quite happily slaps around Buddhists and the atheists of the west say nothing.
This is the sort of 'nothing' that Topix atheists believe in.
Which atheists hate Buddhists and Jains?

And, jfyi, we don't hate Christians.

Mostly we pity them.

We hate ignorance. Especially the willful kind.

And we don't hate god.

There is no god.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#161849 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>They never had the spark of true intellect struck within their heads. They got so very dependent on others telling them they are intellectual because they follow the line they are being fed, acting upon their emotions, that they can never strike it on their own.

Animated puppets dancing to the tune of others. Collections of mass and energy being directed from without.
Boy, you have a telnet for getting things bass ackwards.

I'll give you that.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#161850 Mar 24, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>Quite true, look at the rent-a-mob demonstrations in favour of left wing causes. The overwhelming majority of those mobs are herded like sheep by one or two professional career 'socialists' and the ones who organised it arent even there but probably in some swish restaurant on some sort of government grant.
It is 'groupthink' as they have forgotten or been indoctrinated not to think for themselves.
As a result you get stupid crap posted when these professional victims cannot respond rationally.
Like the crap below.....
KittenKoder wrote, "<quoted text>
Why do you hate bunnies?"
So...why DO you hate bunnies?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#161851 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Astrology & physics aren't the only means of acquiring intelligence, athibot.
Rofl.

You're half right.

Perfect for a halfwit.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#161852 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Because listening to you whine, complain and froth at the mouth is much more entertaining.
I sense another meltdown coming.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#161853 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
" History
The movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria) as the Order of the Illuminati, with an initial membership of five,[2] by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830),[3] who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.[1] It was made up of freethinkers as an offshoot of the Enlightenment and seems to have been modeled on the Freemasons.[4] The Illuminati's members took a vow of secrecy and pledged obedience to their superiors. Members were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees, and many Illuminati chapters drew membership from existing Masonic lodges."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
"and pledged obedience to their superiors"
?
Free thinkers?
Are you trying to say there can be no order or discipline within a
institution?

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