Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Siro

Brisbane, Australia

#161686 Mar 23, 2013
Atheists Are Not Real wrote:
Every person naturally knows that we came from somewhere they can't understand. Not giving God his due for the impossible (in human terms) existence is their first mistake. Instead they busy themselves with proving that something CAN come from nothing.
Atheists despite all the functions offered to them such as the world of academia, universities, technology and like cannot come up with one physical experiment that can produce physical results that can be measured or replicated.
All they come up with is giant theories with giant budgets which are nothing more than giant opinions which end up requiring giant media spin and hype to appear acceptable to the public and even then they play word games of semantics and dialectic to confuse people or make them apathetic.
They claim everything came from nothing, just think about it...no oxygen, no light, no dirt, nothing....and that it came from its own accord.
They will say that it came about by chance, but even chance can be measured in a matter of odds whether it be 100000000000000000 to 1 or 2 to 1. This implies the use of mathematics and 'nothing' cannot use mathematics on its own accord because it is .....well....nothing!
Only an intelligence can use mathematics as part of whatever equation it uses to decide to bring about 'something'.
So what was the intelligence that existed before creation as we know it?
There can be only one answer..... GOD ..!

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#161687 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Limbaugh isn't a liar.
He's smart & spells out capitalism in a clear cut way that losses you off.
Yeah, Limbaugh losses me off too.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#161688 Mar 23, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yeah, Limbaugh losses me off too.
Only in your low info mind.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161689 Mar 23, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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You aren't an expert in anything.
I'm an expert in construction, building materials; windows & doors, flooring, paint, masonry, plumbing, electrical, etc.

I'm an expert builder & contractor.

I'm an expert at gardening.

I'm a expert at basically everything involved in building and maintaining homes.

I'm also a sex expert, a "sexpert".

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161690 Mar 23, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yeah, Limbaugh losses me off too.
How much does he charge?

lol

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161691 Mar 23, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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If you had the smallest amount of intellect, you would realise what he meant was that if in his flawed perspective if people were gullible enough to believe him, what sort of people would they be?
Right.

They shit talk Limbaugh while getting their political news from local media (LMAO), Stewart and/or Maher...

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#161692 Mar 23, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You are exactly wrong in your premise.
Example of truth:
Every scientist knows that,
we came from processes we "can" understand.
Now when you follow from this premise your whole storyline falls apart.
Amusing.

We came from processes we can understand.

Which could be how pixie dust works, for all we really know.

A robot may be able to deduce it is made of parts, and how it is assembled, and maybe even construct its own devices, but does it know where those original parts came from?

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#161693 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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HA !
"Every scientist" knows that, huh?
Then why can't one of them explain it....?

The "Origin of life" is slowly being understood, but that is not the premise of" where we came from".
That is understood quite well, we know we came from the process of evolution of life on Earth , over a 3.8 billion year history.
We came from the evolution of many organisms on Earth.
It IS explained meticulously in science using genetic and through the fossil record.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#161694 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm an expert in construction, building materials; windows & doors, flooring, paint, masonry, plumbing, electrical, etc.
I'm an expert builder & contractor.
I'm an expert at gardening.
I'm a expert at basically everything involved in building and maintaining homes.
I'm also a sex expert, a "sexpert".
A sex expert at what? You mean your wife was your tutor, and you learnt from her?

Also, it would take years for someone to own the sort of property you claim to own, especially with your job. How did you earn it?
Imagination?
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#161695 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Right.
They shit talk Limbaugh while getting their political news from local media (LMAO), Stewart and/or Maher...
"Right"(Since you try to sound charming, and yet are copycat).

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#161696 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm an expert in construction, building materials; windows & doors, flooring, paint, masonry, plumbing, electrical, etc.
I'm an expert builder & contractor.
I'm an expert at gardening.
I'm a expert at basically everything involved in building and maintaining homes.
I'm also a sex expert, a "sexpert".
Sounds like you're the male home owners worst nightmare, when his wife wants additions and upgrades. At least if you practice that sexpert stuff to clients wives. lol

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#161697 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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How much does he charge?
lol
A few Oxycontins and several other drugs.

Guy's addicted.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161698 Mar 23, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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But you achieved nothing else, due to your lack of intellect. Your work must be very unintuitive.
What work?

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#161699 Mar 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Amusing.
We came from processes we can understand.
Which could be how pixie dust works, for all we really know.
A robot may be able to deduce it is made of parts, and how it is assembled, and maybe even construct its own devices, but does it know where those original parts came from?
Bad example Dave , robots have the ability to fabricate
the parts necessary , and are a known creation. As does the entire history exist and it can be known exactly how the original part's came to be as well as the history of their creators.
But I know what you meant.
The origin of life is a mystery to us, and the information of any creator does not exist. So yes the empirical evidence exists, and a robot could discover it's creator quite easily , and no we do not know for sure the origin of life yet.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161700 Mar 23, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The "Origin of life" is slowly being understood, but that is not the premise of" where we came from".
That is understood quite well, we know we came from the process of evolution of life on Earth , over a 3.8 billion year history.
We came from the evolution of many organisms on Earth.
It IS explained meticulously in science using genetic and through the fossil record.
Right, right, right....

We're climbing a set of stairs that's 3.8 billion steps high. But we never had step 1......

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161701 Mar 23, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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A sex expert at what? You mean your wife was your tutor, and you learnt from her?
Also, it would take years for someone to own the sort of property you claim to own, especially with your job. How did you earn it?
Imagination?
A sexpert is a person that is very good at sex and know a lot about sex, an expert in sexual manners.

Yes, it did take us a long time to get to where we are. It took us both over 20 years of saving our money and establishing our very good credit to get this property.

We got no assistance from our parents or the gub'ment. We've done it all on our own.

It's called "hard work". Look it up.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161702 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Wow.
You admit it's your opinion.
There's a first.
That's a lie.

In a way, anyways.

I rarely state things as facts, since I know people like you can't handle that.

Not declaring facts also leaves room for new findings.

What new findings does your god offer?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161703 Mar 23, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Sounds like you're the male home owners worst nightmare, when his wife wants additions and upgrades. At least if you practice that sexpert stuff to clients wives. lol
Worst nightmare??

LOL, naw. I'm loyal to my wife.

I help them upgrade their homes & keep their mrs happy with it (the home).

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161704 Mar 23, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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A few Oxycontins and several other drugs.
Guy's addicted.
He always says, "From my formerly nicotine stained hands...."

lol
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#161705 Mar 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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A sexpert is a person that is very good at sex and know a lot about sex, an expert in sexual manners.
Yes, it did take us a long time to get to where we are. It took us both over 20 years of saving our money and establishing our very good credit to get this property.
We got no assistance from our parents or the gub'ment. We've done it all on our own.
It's called "hard work". Look it up.
I wasn't asking what I sexpert is, I knew what it was anyway, what I was asking is how you became a sexpert. Probably through raping your wife too much I can imagine.

Since you didn't have your parents help, I can see why you didn't get your highschool diploma, because you were too dumb to do it by yourself and pay attention to algebra.

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