Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#161112 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, I'm not arrogant.
You have admitted to not being qualified to say how to detect a black hole. Those who *are* qualified say that they can be detected by their effects on the orbits of nearby stars. Yet you claim that they are wrong in spite of your lack of qualifications.

Yes, that is arrogance.

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Since: Dec 10

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#161113 Mar 18, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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We definitely see some effects: the orbits of the stars and their timings.
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Not grandiose conclusions at all: determining the mass is old hat and the size is limited by the fact that the orbiting stars do not collide with whatever is there. The only conclusion that fits that observed facts is that there is a black hole.
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The timing of the orbits allows the determination of the mass. A faster orbit at a given distance is associated with a higher mass. This is pretty standard and well tested. it's how we knew the mass of Jupiter before actually going there (watching the orbits of its moons).
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Once again, the orbits of the stars close by is what gives us the information we need to say it is a black hole, from its mass to the size of the region is occupies. Like I pointed out, we are even measuring the warping of space in the region by measuring the precession of the orbits of those stars. Sixteen years of data there gives a lot of relevant information.
Again, what *else* do you think is required to say we have detected a black hole?
It's a pretty sure deal that if it emits zero light in any spectrum , and has dozens to hundreds of stars in orbit around it. Of those of them which orbit very close have extraordinary velocities , itself having an accretion disk whose orbital speed is faster than anything except light itself. Then the odds are that it is something that requires extraordinary explanation.
The explanation was defined as a Black hole, the observation of it which confirmed the existence of such a thing. A monster we did not wish to find.

Langoliers

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#161115 Mar 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>Well done

In a family with 4 siblings, John is older than Mary, Peter is younger than John, Mary is older than Peter, and Sarah is older than John. Who is the second oldest in the family? Who is the youngest?

Easier...
Use four 5s and some of the symbols +,×, &#8722;, and ÷ to give expressions for 0, 1, 2, and 5
Ok what's the trick?

John is the second oldest and
Peter is the youngest.

So am I not reading this right? Are Sarah, John, Mary, and Peter the four sibling?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#161116 Mar 18, 2013
You're not qualified to answer on most of the subjects you do, hence why you regularly make a jackass out of yourself.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry? I didn't answer your question. I have no idea how to detect a black hole, if they even exist. I'm not qualified to answer that question.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#161117 Mar 18, 2013
We really need a slam dunk icon :)
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>No, I didn't link to the wrong post.

I linked to the one that started this. It came BEFORE the one you linked to.

This was linked to on this thread yesterday...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

And how did you respond?...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Me, back to you...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Who's being disingenuous? It certainly isn't me.

And, BTW... I'm not googling. I don't have to use Google to find out >I< said on Topix.

Why do you?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#161118 Mar 18, 2013
Isn't that kinda like saying you fingered your daughter but never molested her?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Never.

I used to spank them, but I've never beaten them.

You?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#161119 Mar 18, 2013
Of course it is you guy built a religion around fiction.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Fiction is fun, huh?
Lincoln

United States

#161120 Mar 18, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Of course it is you guy built a religion around fiction.
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Atheism - removing Christian Manger Displays from city land, one at a time .... boring

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#161121 Mar 18, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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I think RR is a gnostic theist, which is a logical absurdity.
Yes... RR thinks he's a gnostic theist... and, that is a logical absurdity.

He claims to know there's a god.

Logic said bye-bye to RR a long, loooong time ago.

He chooses absurd certainty over uncomfortable uncertainty.~Voltaire... sort of~

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Since: Feb 08

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#161122 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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An agnostic is a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
I am not agnostic, I don't have that belief.
You have ONLY belief.

You don't know there's a god, let alone what its nature is.

You're as agnostic as I am... in reverse.

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...are my strong suits!

#161123 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Love cannot be seen, but we know it exists.
Fear cannot be seen, but we know it exists.
Black holes cannot be seen, but we know they exist.
God cannot be seen, but we know He exists.
Love is demonstrable.

Fear is demonstrable.

Your not is not demonstrable.

Black holes are irrelevant.

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Since: Feb 08

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#161124 Mar 18, 2013
He he.

Your not...

/not/god/

Your god is not demonstrable.

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#161125 Mar 18, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
We really need a slam dunk icon :)
<quoted text>
=)

And a tequila one and a salt one to go with lemons.

Thx.

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Since: Feb 08

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#161126 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Our scientific technology is pretty damn weak.
Our senses trump science every time.
Try it.
Our technology extends our senses.

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Since: Feb 08

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#161127 Mar 18, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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Cool, what flavour?
Let's see...

Learned with Slackware... still my favorite. Vector Linux is a SW derivative. It's good too.

Red Hat's local; headquarters up the road. I have RHCSA/RHCE certs. Someone else paid for 'em... so, why not?

Usually go with CentOS for servers/server farms. It's just like Red Hat, without the branding. If not that, then it's Red Hat. Spending money gives some clients a warm-fuzzy feeling.

Fedora's on this laptop. Said a while back it was going bye-bye. It'll be Slackware, eventually.

Got into the habit of installing Kubuntu on others' personal computers (to replace Windoze).

Anything really old lying around gets Damn Small Linux.

Trying to get interested in Arch.

What else?

Oh...

Recently flashed a few Linksys routers with DD-WRT.

That's about it.

No...

Yeah.

That's it.

You?

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#161128 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Busted?!?
HA HA HA !!!
You're the one trying to backpedal and weasel your way out of this. Your first sentence was "lights speed is constant."
That's not a lie, that's the truth. And you damn well know it.
Liar
Nope.

You're busted.

Case closed.

I never called you a liar, RR.

You called me a liar.

I didn't lie.

Also...

You're still ignoring the rest of the post you're referring to.

Read the post, the whole post, and nothing but the post... or stop bringing it up.

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Since: Dec 10

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#161129 Mar 18, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Atheism - removing Christian Manger Displays from city land, one at a time .... boring

I was the baby, somebody stole me.
I was raised by athievests, now they call me Tarzan.
I'm supposed to be looking for Jane, Mary Jane. Yawn

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#161130 Mar 18, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Big time.
Good job.
Thanks.

I do what I can.

Couldn't have done it without RR's help.

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#161131 Mar 18, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Atheism - removing Christian Manger Displays from city land, one at a time .... boring
I leave the manger. I just take the baby doll.

I have a collection. It's cool when the baby Jesus' head turns all the way around.

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#161132 Mar 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Love is demonstrable.
Fear is demonstrable.
Your not is not demonstrable.
Black holes are irrelevant.
Things are only relevant when it's realized that they're inevitable.

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