Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#160914 Mar 17, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Well you seem to be amongst the creotard crowd when you make such a blatantly wrong statement such as that.
Especially since is was reaffirmed very recently , that it actually hold true to the mark. Being a universal constant and standard and all. Those guys at NIST all seem to think it is too , by all weights and measure. But you're seemingly convinced , so I'm thinking you must have some pretty strong evidence, I mean other than a feeling all by your oneseys that all the geniuses of the world are so wrong.
So don't be shy present your evidence that the clocks that are accurate to 1 second in 3 billion years are wrong and you are right.
To what statement are you referring?

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160915 Mar 17, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Even that isn't quite correct. There is a variation in speed due to density, specifically the electron density. That would be affected by temperature and pressure, for example. Generally speaking, a higher density gives a higher index of refraction and so a smaller phase velocity.
So, for 'ordinary' materials, the index of refraction depends on the frequency, the electron density of the material, and the location of absorption lines in the spectrum of the material.
He he.

Yes sir... that much I do understand (still working on phase velocity/group velocity).

We don't live in a perfect world and everything's in a state of change, so to speak. Conditions "here" aren't the same as "over there".

If the statement/question is rephrased, so that the material is of uniform density, temperature, and pressure (the three are related; a change in one requires a change in the others)... and consistent throughout... THEN would light's speed be constant through the material?

I think... yes?

I'm fairly comfortable with what happens when light transitions from one material to another, as at a water-air interface.

I work with optical fiber... and a particular piece of equipment called an OTDR (optical time domain reflectometer).

With regard to the machine, I'm an "end user"... but, one that tends to get lost in the intricacies of what's actually going on... more so than other techs.

Thanks for putting up with me.

It's appreciated.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160916 Mar 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You can label you.
You can't label me.
What's your point?
You're a theist.

You're an agnostic.

That's my point.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#160917 Mar 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
To what statement are you referring?
You know what you are whining about.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160918 Mar 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Talk to Hukt. He's now bitching at me on two threads that the speed of light is constant....
No...

You're whining on two threads.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160919 Mar 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
Your turn.
To do what?

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#160920 Mar 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That's awesome, but I have no idea what it means.
I gave up on math when they started putting letters in it :)
I was not ignoring you I was trying to find a way of explaining. I subsequently found this from Yale:-

http://videolectures.net/yalephys200f06_funda...

In particular:-

http://videolectures.net/yalephys200f06_shank...

I have not had time to watch them all but they seem to be pretty good. Hope it helps.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#160921 Mar 17, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>
He he.
Yes sir... that much I do understand (still working on phase velocity/group velocity).
We don't live in a perfect world and everything's in a state of change, so to speak. Conditions "here" aren't the same as "over there".
If the statement/question is rephrased, so that the material is of uniform density, temperature, and pressure (the three are related; a change in one requires a change in the others)... and consistent throughout... THEN would light's speed be constant through the material?
I think... yes?
I'm fairly comfortable with what happens when light transitions from one material to another, as at a water-air interface.
I work with optical fiber... and a particular piece of equipment called an OTDR (optical time domain reflectometer).
With regard to the machine, I'm an "end user"... but, one that tends to get lost in the intricacies of what's actually going on... more so than other techs.
Thanks for putting up with me.
It's appreciated.
I understand that processors are moving into a laser light carried code, and it is nearly at c that it works in these machines.
That's the cool news , but the bad news is ...our computers are obsolete, gonna have build a pricy shiny new computer, and they gonna rake it in again.

http://articles.cnn.com/2001-05-17/tech/quant...

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160922 Mar 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Kettle, meet pot.
The difference between us, with respect to the particulars...

One of us understands...

... the other doesn't care to understand.

One of us pays attention to what the other says..

... the other doesn't.

One of us is me...

... the other is you.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#160923 Mar 17, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>
No...
You're whining on two threads.
RR is whining on three threads.

Sorry to rat on you, RR.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160924 Mar 17, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand that processors are moving into a laser light carried code, and it is nearly at c that it works in these machines.
That's the cool news , but the bad news is ...our computers are obsolete, gonna have build a pricy shiny new computer, and they gonna rake it in again.
http://articles.cnn.com/2001-05-17/tech/quant...
Will they run Linux?

That's my only concern.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160925 Mar 17, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
RR is whining on three threads.
Sorry to rat on you, RR.
Keep it secrete.

Don't tell me what thread.

Please... for RR's sake.

He's had enough of me and I don't want to do anything that might jeopardize our "friendship".

I'd miss the little lunkhead.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#160926 Mar 17, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>
Will they run Linux?
That's my only concern.
lol, are there any that wont? You redhat cloud Ubuntu guys will figure out how to put a OS together that will run anything I'm sure.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#160927 Mar 17, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> lol, are there any that wont? You redhat cloud Ubuntu guys will figure out how to put a OS together that will run anything I'm sure.
You know it!

We'll damn sure try.

It's bedtime.

G'night.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#160928 Mar 17, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>
Will they run Linux?
That's my only concern.
Don't tell me you run linux.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Redding, CA

#160929 Mar 17, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>lol, are there any that wont? You redhat cloud Ubuntu guys will figure out how to put a OS together that will run anything I'm sure.
Just an FYI, once your data leaves your router it is then in my arena.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#160930 Mar 17, 2013
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Just an FYI, once your data leaves your router it is then in my arena.
Thats funny ,there's no such agency that claims this but DHS and the FBI are into your data too.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Redding, CA

#160931 Mar 17, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Thats funny ,there's no such agency that claims this but DHS and the FBI are into your data too.
Let me clarify, they need to provide me a warrant before they can enter my buildings to tap a data line. I am part of global network operations, layers 1-3 we maintain the Titan switches, FW7500's, fibers, OC192's...

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#160932 Mar 17, 2013
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me clarify, they need to provide me a warrant before they can enter my buildings to tap a data line. I am part of global network operations, layers 1-3 we maintain the Titan switches, FW7500's, fibers, OC192's...
You the idiot, they already do you say they need a warrant? ha ha ha All that big brother eavesdropping on your conversations , and the chat goes right through them.
They have over 10,000 people working in 24 hours shifts , picking up on key words. They say they don't pay that much attention untill the program picks up one of the keys, then they track you to see if its any good(bad) stuff to sneakle in on.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/182504
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Redding, CA

#160933 Mar 17, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>You the idiot, they already do you say they need a warrant? ha ha ha All that big brother eavesdropping on your conversations , and the chat goes right through them.
They have over 10,000 people working in 24 hours shifts , picking up on key words. They say they don't pay that much attention untill the program picks up one of the keys, then they track you to see if its any good(bad) stuff to sneakle in on.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/182504
you know what a central office is?

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