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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#160556 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Yes, actually, the value of c=299,792,458 meters per second *is* exact. That is how the meter is *defined*.
Then explain why it's slower underwater.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#160557 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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It has been found by its gravitational effects. Neutrinos have been found by their effects on radioactivity. Neither has been detected directly.
Oh, stop. Please stop.

That's like saying the smell of chocolate is evidence of chocolate when in fact it is only evidence is the smell of the chocolate but not chocolate itself.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160558 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then explain why it's slower underwater.
That is the exact speed *in a vacuum*, as has been pointed out many times.

Light going *through matter* is slowed down by the interaction (actually absorption and re-emission) by that matter.

“Ditat Deus”

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#160559 Mar 16, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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From wiki:
The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its value is 299,792,458 metres per second, a figure that is exact because the length of the metre is defined from this constant and the international standard for time.[1]
Yeah sure, in a vacuum the speed of light is constant. But underwater the speed of light is a different constant. In an atmosphere the speed of light is a different constant. In a nebula the speed of light is a different constant.

I hope you learned something today

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#160560 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then explain why it's slower underwater.
This is a good source for replacement parts for irony meters.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ecatalog/N-1...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irony_meter

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160561 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
Red is slower because the galaxy is moving away. Blue is faster because the galaxy is moving towards us.
Red = Slower
Blue = Faster
[/QUOTE]
Red light and blue light travel at the same speed in a vacuum (and only slightly different speeds in air or water).
The reason for the red or blue shift is that something moving away (say) has moved extra distance while it is emitting one wavelength of light, which means that wavelength is stretched. The opposite happens for light emitted by objects moving towards us. Longer wavelengths are said to be red-shifted and shorter wavelengths are said to be blue shifted.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160562 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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That is the exact speed *in a vacuum*, as has been pointed out many times.
Light going *through matter* is slowed down by the interaction (actually absorption and re-emission) by that matter.
Actually, there was recently a particle discovered that was faster than light.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160563 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yeah sure, in a vacuum the speed of light is constant. But underwater the speed of light is a different constant. In an atmosphere the speed of light is a different constant. In a nebula the speed of light is a different constant.
I hope you learned something today
And it is the speed of light *in a vacuum* that is the same for all observers.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160564 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yeah sure, in a vacuum the speed of light is constant. But underwater the speed of light is a different constant. In an atmosphere the speed of light is a different constant. In a nebula the speed of light is a different constant.
I hope you learned something today
Actually, the speed of light in water is *not* a constant. That speed in water does, in fact, depend on the frequency of the light. That is partly why refraction is different for different frequencies, which is why we get rainbows.

And yes, the speed depends on the frequency in air and in nebulae, but not nearly as much.

It is only in a vacuum that the speed does not depend on the frequency.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160565 Mar 16, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Actually, there was recently a particle discovered that was faster than light.
Wrong. Some scientists at CERN presented some observations that *appeared* to imply that neutrinos can move faster than light. It turned out to be wrong because of some wiring issues. When they announced it, they didn't even believe their results, but couldn't explain them. They later found their mistake.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160566 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Wrong. Some scientists at CERN presented some observations that *appeared* to imply that neutrinos can move faster than light. It turned out to be wrong because of some wiring issues. When they announced it, they didn't even believe their results, but couldn't explain them. They later found their mistake.
What was the wiring issue?
Normally lecturers wouldn't just be on spring break. How come those still studying don't have you there for them while on spring break?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160567 Mar 16, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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What was the wiring issue?
http://phys.org/news/2012-02-faster-neutrinos...
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125516...
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/02/22/einstein-...
Normally lecturers wouldn't just be on spring break. How come those still studying don't have you there for them while on spring break?
Yes, professors are off for spring break also. No, professors are generally 'not available' over spring break.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160568 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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http://phys.org/news/2012-02-faster-neutrinos...
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125516...
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/02/22/einstein-...
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Yes, professors are off for spring break also. No, professors are generally 'not available' over spring break.
How can you be a profesor? You don't at all seem to a PhD.
christianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#160569 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
Correct!
God is outside of laws (his laws) of the universe. time does not exist where he is so there would be no date.
Jimmy got one right!
[/QUOTE]
did god told you this or are you just making up BS?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160570 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
But in a vacuum you're saying frequency makes no difference?[/QUOTE]

Frequency makes no difference to the speed in a vacuum.

Correct.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160571 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yeah sure, in a vacuum the speed of light is constant. But underwater the speed of light is a different constant. In an atmosphere the speed of light is a different constant. In a nebula the speed of light is a different constant.
I hope you learned something today
I did, but not from you.

I knew those things.

Ever hear of a prism?

Or a rainbow?

Th reason for the various colors is that different wavelengths travel at different speeds through various media.

No biggie.

Elementary school stuff.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160572 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
Red is slower because the galaxy is moving away. Blue is faster because the galaxy is moving towards us.
Red = Slower
Blue = Faster
[/QUOTE]

Wrong.

The light from galaxies moving away is travelling at c, but the wavelength is stretched out.

The light from galaxies moving towards us travels at c, but the wavelength is compressed.

Longer wavelenths=redshift.

Shorter wavelengths=blueshift.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160573 Mar 16, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Wrong.
The light from galaxies moving away is travelling at c, but the wavelength is stretched out.
The light from galaxies moving towards us travels at c, but the wavelength is compressed.
Longer wavelenths=redshift.
Shorter wavelengths=blueshift.
Why would it work that way, idiot? Apparently you think all light originates from earth.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160574 Mar 16, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Why would it work that way, idiot? Apparently you think all light originates from earth.
How in the world do you get that from what he said?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

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#160575 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No they haven't.
Detecting a things supposed effects is different from detecting the thing.
Not really.

Unless, apparently, you refer to a deity.

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