Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#160242 Mar 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You're such a moronbafoonidiotretard.
That's saying we can talk about one or the other.
How about this, for that superior intellect of yours:
"If we're talking about food, we can talk about apple pies and we can talk about ham sandwiches."
Does that mean they're the same to you?
Terrible analogy....Do better!!!! Your wrong once again, just fold up like a cheap card table and run along!!!!!!!

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#160243 Mar 14, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
It hasn't detected leprechauns either.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
And?
What does that have to do with God?
Well, there's this.

"I set My rainbow in a cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant [promise] between Me and the earth. It shall be, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud; and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh." - Genesis 9:13-15.

It was soon after that the Leprechauns started their hiding pots of gold at the end of the rainbow.

But, we know the world wasn't destroyed by a "worldwide biblical deluge". We know "all flesh" wasn't destroyed by the biblical deluge.

It is myth. Just like Leprechauns are myth, too.

Science has a good record for being able to detect reality.

Science really can't detect or verify unreality.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#160244 Mar 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't demonstrate them either way, so I won't make any grandiose claims.
No more than you can prove that God doesn't exist.
Thank you.
And you can't demonstrate your god thing either, yet you make grandiose claims. At some point you'll just have to admit that what you believe in is only imagined. It's ok, really, people believe in all sorts of crazy shit, you'll just be another crazy shit believing person. No big deal. Unless you really care about whats true. You apparently don't!!!
PURE gENUIS

Redding, CA

#160245 Mar 14, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You're really not that stupid are you? I have a fire breathing invisible pink dragon in my garage, do you believe me? I also KNOW that there is a china teapot in orbit around the sun, do you also believe that? I absolutely KNOW that the fish Gods from Neptune are directly responsible for creating the universe and everything in it, do you believe that?
Three very simply claims, all positive, demonstrate to us all if these claims are either true or false. Supply reason and logic for your answers.
You are a doorknob! First let me slap you around for trying to be cleaver (using someone else's words. Here is why you are stupid,

You first start by using a self-refuting statement, "invisible pink". Public school, huh?

I hope there are not many stupid people out there that would breed with you, just saying!
PURE gENUIS

Redding, CA

#160246 Mar 14, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Terrible analogy....Do better!!!! Your wrong once again, just fold up like a cheap card table and run along!!!!!!!
Bet you ride the short yellow bus, right?
christianity is EVIL

Summerside, Canada

#160247 Mar 14, 2013
PURE gENUIS wrote:
<quoted text>
Bet you ride the short yellow bus, right?
you must be jealous
LOL
http://www.shortcuthigh.com/photoalbum.html
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#160248 Mar 14, 2013
PURE gENUIS wrote:
<quoted text>
Bet you ride the short yellow bus, right?
I'll bet you're an acne riddled teen, with a nose ring and pierced eyebrows, totally lacking in basic hygiene. You dropped out of school and think drive by posts make you look cool. You sling shit and avoid any adult dialog. Uneducated, crass, full of self-doubt, and prone to bed wetting. Is that about right????....Yeah, I thought so!!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#160250 Mar 14, 2013
Same here me and wifey have an amazing relationship.
Thinking wrote:
You're projecting again. That description doesn't fit me at all.
<quoted text>

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#160251 Mar 14, 2013
Still backing down from your comment about how believing on god automatically makes you better than other people and gives you the right to look down on them?

Ya you really fcked up that time didn't you Dave? Ashamed to even comment on it.
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s tories/E/EU_VATICAN_POPE?SITE= FLTAM&SECTION=HOME&TEM PLATE=
My kind of guy, and I'm nowhere near a Catholic. Not close to Protestant, either.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160252 Mar 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>And?

What does that have to do with God?
What god?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160253 Mar 15, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>But you are, for every deity except one, which by amazing coincidence is a culturally familiar one to you.
And one that agrees with his views.

What a co-inky-dink.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160254 Mar 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>To the dark side of the moon where the Decepticon base is.
Wrong thread.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160255 Mar 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>IOW - You spend a lot of time talking and arguing about a deity you don't believe in.

I can't understand why.
I try to keep my topics to the damage that religion causes.

As a matter of course, religion involves the belief in some version of god, so it necessarily enters the conversation.

Your argument here is just a common method to attempt to shut us up.

It won't work.
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#160256 Mar 15, 2013
Yes- you are a Bishop of Madeupology from the Church of Yourtrailer.[sic]
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s tories/E/EU_VATICAN_POPE?SITE= FLTAM&SECTION=HOME&TEM PLATE=
My kind of guy, and I'm nowhere near a Catholic. Not close to Protestant, either.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160257 Mar 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor atheists,

They have to go through life lonely.

They can never find a soulmate. Never a loved one lost they can only hope to meet in the beyond.

All alone. Any friends or family is nothing more than good time buddies at the local bar.

They can never really bond with another. Just temporary alliances.

A life full of illusions that go poof.
Really?

I'm doing it wrong, then.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160258 Mar 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>If you are atheist it has to. No way around it.

No afterlife? No spirit world or spiritual links?

Nothing but you and the illusions a piece of meat can produce.

As an atheist you know that has to be true. Everyone around you, even spouse and children are nothing but pieces of meat that will rot. Those personalities go poof.
Better to live with an uncomfortable truth than a comforting lie.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160259 Mar 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't say any burden lies on anyone.

But a person making a claim is usually asked why they have that claim.

Now atheists, all they spout is proof, proof, proof, show me the proof. They tend to think that I'd science can't explain or detect something, it doesn't exist.

Then someone like me asks them to prove love, or dark matter, or was DNA non-existent before it was discovered? Etc, etc.

It stumps them and their belief system in science.

Don't get me wrong, science is fantastic and is a very important part of everyone's daily life, I praise the men & women around the world that contribute to science.

But when an ignorant atheists comes on an anonymous thread spouting off proof that doesn't exist, I just gotsta check 'em.
I do task for proof.

I ask for evidence.

You keep changing that to proof.

Do you know the difference between evidence and proof?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160260 Mar 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>HA ! Continue...

[QUOTE] Believing in a specific god without verifiable evidence is akin to believing in the monster under the bed, or the fairies in the garden, or gnomes under the trees. "

True, but if God ever speaks to you, you'll very much know that you're wrong.

[QUOTE] It's a fun fairytale to placate your fears and insecurities, but when you grow up you should not need such things, and if you are sane you would never purport them as fact without the evidence to back up the claim. "

You mistake me for someone else. I have no fears or insecurities.

And I'm all growd up.

[QUOTE] Leaving the possibility of something bigger than the universe is logical, but to state you know what that thing is without evidence is delusion. "

I don't have evidence that God created the universe, no. But I do have personal anecdotal evidence that God exists. That's all I need.
You forgot to stick out your tongue after you said that.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160261 Mar 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Yup. And you but it hook, line & sinker. Funny that you've chosen one particular version of BBT. Why is that?

[QUOTE] Yes, in fact, the Big Bang theory, in particular the LCDM version (cosmological constant and cold dark matter)*is* reliable and consistent with all the data we have. Do you want links to the data and the results of analyzing that data? "

"with the data we have".... Huh.

Suppose the data we have is incorrect.

Suppose the data we have is only 5% of the needed data to reach an absolute conclusion.

[QUOTE] Is there any theoretical way to detect God that you can offer? "

No, I'm no scientist. I'm neither qualified nor competent enough to demonstrate that. I leave that in the good hands of the world's scientists.

[QUOTE] Yes, we can and do detect emotions, dark matter, and black holes. "

No, actually we can't.

Your beliefs are strong. That's good, but don't get too over your head in delusions.

NASA says black holes & dark matter are still invisible to us and have never been directly seen in any way.

Polymath thinks otherwise.

I'll go with NASA on this one.

[QUOTE] Then there is no difference between God and a personal delusion, especially since different people cannot agree about what they experienced. No reliability."

What?!?

Like everyone agrees on the feeling of grief the same? Or the taste of chocolate? Or the feeling of heat?

Gimme another break.....
Since you can't see what chocolate tastes like, it doesn't exist.

You are continually confirming your stupidity as well as your dishonesty.

You continually and intentionally change words in others' arguments in your feeble attempts to discount them.

That kind of dishonesty is your admission of defeat.

Detect=/=see.

Dolt.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160262 Mar 15, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Look folks, he's projecting once again. A worthless life, contributing absolutely nothing, awash is delusions, and longing for a relation with someone other that another who shares his ridiculous delusions. A waisted life, so much time spent in that magical fairyland of mythical beings and magical places, that reality has passed him by. I'll bet he wishes he had it all to do over again. Poor sap!!!!
He's a philophoser.

Or something like that.

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