Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#159208 Mar 9, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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How stupid do you really want to get?

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The Electrician's Bible (A HomeOwner's bible)[Paperback]
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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159209 Mar 9, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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How stupid do you really want to get?
Electrician Bible
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details...
The Electrician's Bible (A HomeOwner's bible)[Paperback]
http://www.amazon.com/The-Electricians-Bible-...
The Woodworker's Bible: A Complete Guide to Woodworking (Popular Woodworking)[Hardcover]
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Toyota Truck and Land Cruiser Owner's Bible [Paperback]
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I don't think Langoless thinks before it posts anything. It's like a kid, but without the curiosity ... or the ability to learn.
Imhotep

United States

#159210 Mar 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Go to Coral Castle.
A frail, sickly man the size of a petite woman, in his 50's, quarried and moved 1000 of that 1100 tons of rock pretty much within 2 years, all by himself. He only moved about 100 tons from the original location. That is where they get the 28 years. It was much, much less. He had a 10 ton winch. It weighed more than him.
Interesting ;)

"A mans home is his castle"
In Loveland, Ohio

http://www.lovelandcastle.com/about.html

Did You Know Harry Andrews:

Graduated from Colgate University.

Enlisted in the Army during WWI even though he was a conscientious objector.
He didn't object to war itself, he didn't like the weapons of modern warfare. So, Harry enlisted as a nurse.

Was the oldest living Notary Public in Ohio...and he never charged more than a quarter for his service.

Was a well published author, including a guide book he wrote at the bequest of the U.S. Immigration Department to aid those seeking citizenship. A copy of which is on display at the castle.

Also made the road you take down to the castle. Buses cannot make it down this road still today!
Grew vegetables year round in hotbeds of his own design. They were heated by railroad lanterns!

Hid his secret room in the garden. The entrance was one of the arches in the arch wall. it was only discovered after it collapsed from years of neglect...Even the knights didn't know it was there!

Had an amazing 187 I.Q.
Lincoln

United States

#159211 Mar 9, 2013
Atheists seem unhappy with their influence in 21st century America.
It may have peaked in the mid 20th century.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#159212 Mar 9, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Atheists seem unhappy with their influence in 21st century America.
It may have peaked in the mid 20th century.
Who is so unhappy in life, that they make up sock puppets on internet forums in order to argue with real people?

How many names have you gone by on Topix? Are you that unhappy with the real world?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#159213 Mar 9, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Atheists seem unhappy with their influence in 21st century America.
It may have peaked in the mid 20th century.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#159214 Mar 9, 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/08/health/concussi...

"Overcoming a concussion is like waking up from a dream. The person I was before the accident is gone, and I am still trying to settle into my new identity. This fall, I hope to begin a residency as a hospital chaplain. My injury has given me a deeper sense of compassion, especially for people in pain.

Though I cannot say it has been an easy journey, I can say this with all certainty: This past year I have been given the gift of perspective, and for that I am thankful."

That last sentence is most significant. There is a major reset to the processes that you have learn things in a new perspective. Your old learning and indoctrination kind of gets put in a different perspective. Instead of proceeding through life with all of those childhood influences and learned ways of doing and thinking, you are suddenly an adult that has to learn a lot of things from scratch again.

One thing you learn is that help you seek is bullshit. As she notes it is appointment after appointment. Doctors making money, but they can't help you any further than presenting you with comparisons with others as far as tests go. After a while you get frustrated and get out of the routine and put your life together yourself.

She still has a couple of years before things get settled down, and is likely to have another major issue dealing with people before then. But she has a good core and will survive. This happened in her adult years, after her personality developed.

Topix atheists never recovered being dropped on their heads as babies, or over doing the drugs as adolescents.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#159215 Mar 9, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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She? Why would you think that I'm a she?
I didn't. It was part of the quote.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#159216 Mar 9, 2013
http://www.nature.com/news/physicists-twist-w...

A more scientific analysis of my knit space theory. What I have been presenting is something strictly developed on my own just using the basic principles of applied physics. I haven't read about this stuff before.

You see, there are scientists that are actually looking at this.

This is the difference between seeing "physics", and seeing math representing the physics.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#159217 Mar 9, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Posted else where by derek4
From: The Columbus Dispatch:
February 4, 2011
Church, without God
“Stan Bradley likes Bible stories, admires Martin Luther and uses expressions such as 'heavens, no.'
The Lithopolis man is president of a local congregation and rarely misses a Sunday service. Occasionally, he goes to his wife's church instead.
For these and other reasons, Bradley considers himself religious.”
He is also an atheist.
continued:
“Like Bradley, some atheists participate in organized religion for its social and psychological benefits.”
continued:
“Churches are great places to find friends, support and youth education, so nonbelievers and believers alike join congregations to fill those needs, he said.
He has spoken to elderly and sick people who can no longer go to church and they say they most miss the feeling of community.
Recent research from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin backs him up. It found that religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people, not because of belief but because of the friendships found at church.”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/faith...
“religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people”[I have said this all along, and my posts are still on the board to confirm it. Now you hear it straight from the atheist, lol.]
What one mans life?

No you claim to know what I think and believe or not believe. All I ask is:

What atheist religious sect do I belong to?

What is the common ground of this atheist religion?

What is the doctrine of this religion?

As for Bradley that is his life, I on the other hand have no need for fellowship with others in a church to be happy and have a good life.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#159218 Mar 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Removal of all religion from public life and streets?
Where have I stated that I want all religion removed?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Even though atheist are a tiny minority?
Yea well not all people can see truth.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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The proselytizing of atheism on public forums like this?
That is one of the reasons for forums like this. Just as the proselytizing of religion in forums like this and on the street.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Oh, th ehate speech directed at the religious is also a good indication there is some belief in Topix atheist non-belief.
Have you read hate speech in my post when there was no hate in the one posting to me? I return in kind if one responds to me with hate.

Would you explain your comment there is some belief in Topix atheist non-belief.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Non-believers" are not proactive. They just don't believe, right?
Many are proactive many are not, and yes they dont believe.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#159219 Mar 9, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
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What one mans life?
No you claim to know what I think and believe or not believe. All I ask is:
What atheist religious sect do I belong to?
What is the common ground of this atheist religion?
What is the doctrine of this religion?
As for Bradley that is his life, I on the other hand have no need for fellowship with others in a church to be happy and have a good life.
Why are you on here arguing about it?
Imhotep

United States

#159220 Mar 9, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Atheists seem unhappy with their influence in 21st century America.
It may have peaked in the mid 20th century.
Theists are secretly jealous of atheists.
Few have read the Bible.
Few have studied history.
Most are allergic to fact
Some are severely dogma addicted
Others lack common sense, logic and reason.

Atheists don't need to prove the non-existence of God, any more than we need to prove the nonexistence of Zeus or Jupiter. Can theists prove God over any alternatives? Of course not. Nobody can prove God exists, yet they will stand on their heads saying they're sure. Well, if they can be sure despite evidence to the contrary, we can be sure in light of evidence in support of atheism.

I reject any 'faith' that contradicts scientific fact and outrages reason.

Yet - I find the Topix theists oddly entertaining.

PS:
I am considering a special church for them!
'Our Lady of Eternal Amusement and Holy Topix Theist Reformed'

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#159221 Mar 9, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
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Where have I stated that I want all religion removed?
<quoted text>
Yea well not all people can see truth.
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That is one of the reasons for forums like this. Just as the proselytizing of religion in forums like this and on the street.
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Have you read hate speech in my post when there was no hate in the one posting to me? I return in kind if one responds to me with hate.
Would you explain your comment there is some belief in Topix atheist non-belief.
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Many are proactive many are not, and yes they dont believe.
When you are a creature aware of itself and that everything is "created", by whatever method, and aware there is the possibility of another dimesnion of existence, afterlife, etc, then you either have a belief there is another one of those, or you don't believe, or you just flat don't know. Topix atheists get on here and argue there isn't, using scientism as a proxy for their "non-belief". Being proactive in expressing is believing, or a state of confusion.

If someone gets on hre and professes there is no afterlife, deity, or spiritual existence, then they have a belief.

The funny part is they just can't say they don't believe, they have to dance around. Which means they aren't sure of their belief in their non-belief, but that doesn't stop them from being obnoxious and accusing the religious of being dumb drones and ranting and raving against anything they say.

I believe they are nuts and/or troubled minds. I am sue there are many more that think the same way, especially after reading these "athiest forums" where they can gather and be supportive of each other in their expressions of their irrational thinking.

Topix atheists are proven nut cases.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159222 Mar 9, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Without our modern technology? I'd love to see that!!
I didn't say that.

Somebody claimed that we couldn't reproduce the pyramids with today's technology.

That is patently false.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159223 Mar 9, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Carry on...
Indeed.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#159224 Mar 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Why are you on here arguing about it?
Because people who lie,cdesign proponentsists, are trying to pass mythology as science.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159225 Mar 9, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So?
If he's just another id cu*t, he's not trustworthy.
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Atheism was deemed to be religion for the express purpose of allowing atheists to form study groups in prison.

I believe it was extended to include the military.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#159226 Mar 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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When you are a creature aware of itself and that everything is "created", by whatever method, and aware there is the possibility of another dimesnion of existence, afterlife, etc, then you either have a belief there is another one of those, or you don't believe, or you just flat don't know. Topix atheists get on here and argue there isn't, using scientism as a proxy for their "non-belief". Being proactive in expressing is believing, or a state of confusion.
If someone gets on hre and professes there is no afterlife, deity, or spiritual existence, then they have a belief.
The funny part is they just can't say they don't believe, they have to dance around. Which means they aren't sure of their belief in their non-belief, but that doesn't stop them from being obnoxious and accusing the religious of being dumb drones and ranting and raving against anything they say.
I believe they are nuts and/or troubled minds. I am sue there are many more that think the same way, especially after reading these "athiest forums" where they can gather and be supportive of each other in their expressions of their irrational thinking.
Topix atheists are proven nut cases.
"Being proactive in expressing is believing", WTF?

"The funny part is they just can't say they don't believe, they have to dance around."

I don't believe! In other words, "I lack a belief in a god."

What you are trying to say is: "I believe in my lack of belief." and that is just fu[king stupid.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#159227 Mar 9, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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lol!
I really don't believe the 20 years thing tho, it don't sound possible!
Given enough time and people, the pyramids could be reproduced, without the use of modern technology; but who would give up 20 years of their lives to do it?

Oh, wait! You don't believe and it don't [sic] sound possible to you, so it never happened. ;)

Having doubt is great! Now get out there and research it. That way you will not have to rely on belief and what sounds possible to the uneducated mind.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/...

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