Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
XYZYOMOMMAUPASS

United States

#159091 Mar 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Evidently they did fine without it.
Knotted cords were one method of communication. They could have others we aren't aware of. And don't forget it was the priestly class that did those things. Special schools with privileged schooling.
You don't need fancy plans drawn up to do those things. Playing by ear with education in fundamentals could do it. Standards can be set by templates sent. They had different ways of doing things. You can't judge by the way we do it. Whatever it was surely was based on ratios, and not fancy math. Look what the Romans did with Roman numerals.
Note in an earlier post about the tripods creating cutting and drilling guides. The standardization they exhibited there points to mass production of that sort. Jigging up and cutting by those templates. Then you just have to transport to site and assemble.
Any plans on paper or wood surely were destroyed by the humidity or used by survivors for kindling and fuel.
Chimp Meathead you ratio surely don't fit some try trigonometry... JAJAJAJAAJA

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159092 Mar 8, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>Where is it? Michigan?

It's a lake of fire!

No, it is a bottomless pit!

How else is Hell described?
Punishment in Hell is Eternal

Isaiah 66:24
"And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind." (NIV)

Daniel 12:2
Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace.(NLT)

Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (NIV)

Mark 9:43
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.(NLT)

Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.(NLT)

Revelation 14:11
"And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." (NKJV)

Hell is a Place of Separation from God

2 Thessalonians 1:9
They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power.(NLT)

Hell Is a Place of Fire

Matthew 3:12
"His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." (NKJV)

Matthew 13:41–42
The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)

Matthew 13:50
... throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)

Revelation 20:15
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.(NLT)

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159093 Mar 8, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Much like your impairments.
Pointing out that I have dyslexic
Is a complement. Thank you.

Dyslexic The Genesis disease.

Facts are that people with Dyslexic have bigger brains. And most Genesis have Dyslexic.

Dyslexia - The Strange Genius Disease

Dyslexic people are intuitive, highly intelligent and creative individuals who are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. But because they think in pictures, they have troubles when it comes to letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dyslexia-The-S...

Dyslexics have a larger brain than "normal" people. It is about 10% larger in the right hemisphere.

http://www.coulditbedyslexia.com/know.html

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159094 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Um, no, it's called a disability for a specific reason. Overcoming it only overcomes it, and forces you to waste a lot of learning resources to do that, placing you behind in almost all other scholarly pursuits. A person with dyslexia operates at about 10% lower IQ than they actually have, because of the dyslexia. A larger brain doesn't mean more intelligence either, moron.
LOL

Read the FACTS

Pointing out that I have dyslexic
Is a complement. Thank you.

Dyslexic The Genesis disease.

Facts are that people with Dyslexic have bigger brains. And most Genesis have Dyslexic.

Dyslexia - The Strange Genius Disease

Dyslexic people are intuitive, highly intelligent and creative individuals who are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. But because they think in pictures, they have troubles when it comes to letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dyslexia-The-S...

Dyslexics have a larger brain than "normal" people. It is about 10% larger in the right hemisphere.

http://www.coulditbedyslexia.com/know.html

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159095 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Punishment in Hell is Eternal
Isaiah 66:24
"And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind." (NIV)
Daniel 12:2
Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace.(NLT)
Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (NIV)
Mark 9:43
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.(NLT)
Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.(NLT)
Revelation 14:11
"And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." (NKJV)
Hell is a Place of Separation from God
2 Thessalonians 1:9
They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power.(NLT)
Hell Is a Place of Fire
Matthew 3:12
"His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." (NKJV)
Matthew 13:41–42
The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)
Matthew 13:50
... throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)
Revelation 20:15
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.(NLT)
So your god is unjust.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#159097 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Punishment in Hell is Eternal
Isaiah 66:24
"And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind." (NIV)
Daniel 12:2
Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace.(NLT)
Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (NIV)
Mark 9:43
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.(NLT)
Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.(NLT)
Revelation 14:11
"And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." (NKJV)
Hell is a Place of Separation from God
2 Thessalonians 1:9
They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power.(NLT)
Hell Is a Place of Fire
Matthew 3:12
"His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." (NKJV)
Matthew 13:41–42
The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)
Matthew 13:50
... throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)
Revelation 20:15
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.(NLT)
I noticed that you cannot stay with one translation. Pretty scarey stuff! I wonder what kind of god would really do to their creation.

god the father, huh? What kind of father would do that to their children? When my children messed up, they would get punished and then had to sit on their bed to think about what they had done. After that, they would come to me and apologize; I would let them know that they were forgiven and then it was over. Your 'father' will torture his 'children' for eternity? Sick fu[king bastard if you ask me.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159098 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Read the FACTS
Pointing out that I have dyslexic
Is a complement. Thank you.
Dyslexic The Genesis disease.
Facts are that people with Dyslexic have bigger brains. And most Genesis have Dyslexic.
Dyslexia - The Strange Genius Disease
Dyslexic people are intuitive, highly intelligent and creative individuals who are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. But because they think in pictures, they have troubles when it comes to letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dyslexia-The-S...
Dyslexics have a larger brain than "normal" people. It is about 10% larger in the right hemisphere.
http://www.coulditbedyslexia.com/know.html
Just because some smart people had the disability, doesn't make it less of a disability, it just makes them a lot smarter than you.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159099 Mar 8, 2013
Darth Vader: He is here.
Governor Tarkin: Obi-Wan Kenobi? What makes you think so?
Darth Vader: A tremor in the Force. The last time I felt it was in the presence of my old master.
Governor Tarkin: Surely he must be dead by now.
Darth Vader: Don't underestimate the Force.
Governor Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.
[answering a comm signal]
Governor Tarkin: Yes?
Voice over comm: We have an emergency alert in detention block AA-23.
Governor Tarkin: The Princess? Put all sections on alert.
Darth Vader: Obi-wan *is* here. The Force is with him.
Governor Tarkin: If you're right, he must not be allowed to escape.
Darth Vader: Escape is not his plan. I must face him, alone.

Mine are better! I mean you were posting lines from fiction right?
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Punishment in Hell is Eternal
Isaiah 66:24
"And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind." (NIV)
Daniel 12:2
Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace.(NLT)
Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (NIV)
Mark 9:43
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It's better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell with two hands.(NLT)
Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.(NLT)
Revelation 14:11
"And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." (NKJV)
Hell is a Place of Separation from God
2 Thessalonians 1:9
They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power.(NLT)
Hell Is a Place of Fire
Matthew 3:12
"His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." (NKJV)
Matthew 13:41–42
The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)
Matthew 13:50
... throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.(NLT)
Revelation 20:15
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.(NLT)

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159100 Mar 8, 2013
Can you do that again in english maybe? Pssst it was supposed to be your KJV screen name that had dyslexia and under that screen name you went out of your way to say your langoliers screen name didn't have dyslexia.

Sheesh you are an ignorant c@ckgulper!
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Pointing out that I have dyslexic
Is a complement. Thank you.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159101 Mar 8, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>I noticed that you cannot stay with one translation. Pretty scarey stuff! I wonder what kind of god would really do to their creation.

god the father, huh? What kind of father would do that to their children? When my children messed up, they would get punished and then had to sit on their bed to think about what they had done. After that, they would come to me and apologize; I would let them know that they were forgiven and then it was over. Your 'father' will torture his 'children' for eternity? Sick fu[king bastard if you ask me.
I'm not asking.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159102 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Pointing out that I have dyslexic
Is a complement. Thank you.
Dyslexic The Genesis disease.
Facts are that people with Dyslexic have bigger brains. And most Genesis have Dyslexic.
Dyslexia - The Strange Genius Disease
Dyslexic people are intuitive, highly intelligent and creative individuals who are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. But because they think in pictures, they have troubles when it comes to letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dyslexia-The-S...
Dyslexics have a larger brain than "normal" people. It is about 10% larger in the right hemisphere.
http://www.coulditbedyslexia.com/know.html
Is it also a complement that you have a very serious mental illness called DELUSIONAL DISORDER? You have proven time and time again that you are unable to tell that which is REAL from that which can only be imagined. You believe that a place called HELL exists. You have no proof, only the scribblings of a holy book written so long ago and translated so many times it can't be used for anything. You IMAGINE hell exists, you are convinced that this place is REAL:, yet you can't tell us anything about this place outside of your holy scribbling. You also think God is real, Heaven is real, angels are real, demons are real all without a shred of proof. That is the PRIME definition of someone with that dreaded illness called DELUSIONAL DISORDER. Seek professional help, like really soon dude!!!!

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Sdertlje, Sweden

#159103 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
It won't go away no matter how many times you make the claim.
only you christards believe in your place of punishment plus it was stolen from norse religion

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159104 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Just because some smart people had the disability, doesn't make it less of a disability, it just makes them a lot smarter than you.
No it does not. I am a geniuses you are not. You little people think it's a disability because you can't grasp how much better the brain works this way.

Dyslexic The Genesis disease.

Facts are that people with Dyslexic have bigger brains. And most Genesis have Dyslexic.

Dyslexia - The Strange Genius Disease

Dyslexic people are intuitive, highly intelligent and creative individuals who are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. But because they think in pictures, they have troubles when it comes to letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dyslexia-The-S...

Dyslexics have a larger brain than "normal" people. It is about 10% larger in the right hemisphere.

http://www.coulditbedyslexia.com/know.html

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159105 Mar 8, 2013
Should I ever be single again the next Mrs. Liberty :)



:D
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159106 Mar 8, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
I noticed that you cannot stay with one translation. Pretty scarey stuff! I wonder what kind of god would really do to their creation.
god the father, huh? What kind of father would do that to their children? When my children messed up, they would get punished and then had to sit on their bed to think about what they had done. After that, they would come to me and apologize; I would let them know that they were forgiven and then it was over. Your 'father' will torture his 'children' for eternity? Sick fu[king bastard if you ask me.
Exactly.......or maybe something like this....."Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my children who had to drown his own.?"

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159107 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Just because some smart people had the disability, doesn't make it less of a disability, it just makes them a lot smarter than you.
"Genius and disorders seem to go hand in hand. Da Vinci, was a dyslexic, who wrote most of his theories in reverse script. General belief says that troubled souls have heightened creative powers, which makes for great literature, music and even science. From John Lennon and Agatha Christie to Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Michael Faraday, Pablo Picasso and Walt Disney, dyslexics have spun images in their heads, played with them, and have created some of the most spell-binding inventions and discoveries."

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159108 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Just because some smart people had the disability, doesn't make it less of a disability, it just makes them a lot smarter than you.
"In fact, a list of the better-known dyslexics reads more like a who's who among the world's greatest geniuses. Let us take a look at some of the mind-boggling minds of all times and their inner battles..
Albert Einstein
On 14 March 1879, revolutionary scientist Albert Einstein was born in Ulm, Germany. His birthday is celebrated across the globe as "Genius Day". This versatile physicist was dyslexic and could not speak till the age of three and couldn't tie his own shoelaces till he was 13. In school, his teachers hardly had anything good to say about him. He was poor at multiplication, couldn't read well and his spellings were in a sorry state. Einstein's headmaster was heard lamenting to his father that it did not matter what the boy chose, he'd never be successful in anything. Anything known perhaps, which is why he chose to change the way we looked at the universe, forever.

Charles Darwin
Charles Darwin was a slow learner in school. He was shy and spoke with a stutter. He would pronounce the first word of a sentence with a slight stammer, especially words starting with a 'w', when confused during a conversation. He would find it difficult to phrase his thoughts unless it was a topic related to his research."

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159109 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Just because some smart people had the disability, doesn't make it less of a disability, it just makes them a lot smarter than you.
"Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill once remarked: "We are all worms" and was quick to add, "but I do believe that I am a glow-worm". Churchill called it his "black dog" periods of depression. He was believed to have suffered from cyclothymia, a condition marked by mood swings from misery to elation. He would avoid standing on the edge of station platforms to beat a strong of a train. And when in a good mood, he had an overwhelming belief that he had been singled out for some supremely heroic task and went through manic phases of intense activity.

Lord Byron
Was popularly described by one of his former lovers as "mad, bad and dangerous to know". The poet suffered from bipolar disorder which was perhaps the cause of his wild mood swings. It may have also been the source of some of his poetic genius, as above average creativity is sometimes considered a symptom of bipolar disorder, where one suffers from bouts of both depression and mania. His disorder may also explain that other trait Byron is known for: notorious womanising, brought on by increased libido.

Vincent van Gogh
He is celebrated for his painting but van Gogh could have very well been a writer. Van Gogh suffered from hypergraphia, a condition that would make him expatiate (write continuously), a disorder commonly associated with mania and epilepsy. It is believed that the compendium of over 800 letters van Gogh wrote during his lifetime could be attributed to his overwhelming urge to write. Varying in format some were written backwards and some in different patterns. And then of course, his mental illness, marked by depression and paranoia, eventually led him to cut off part of his own ear and commit suicide.

Isaac Newton
Newton was extremely reticent, had few friends and was ill-tempered around them. He would get so engrossed in his work that he would often forget to eat. Irrespective of the presence of an audience, Newton always gave his scheduled lectures. Despite his limited but intense range of interests, Newton had problems communicating with people. He stumbled in socialising, especially in responding to others, striking a conversation or understanding. He was allegedly suffering from a nervous disorder."

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159110 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"Genius and disorders seem to go hand in hand. Da Vinci, was a dyslexic, who wrote most of his theories in reverse script. General belief says that troubled souls have heightened creative powers, which makes for great literature, music and even science. From John Lennon and Agatha Christie to Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Michael Faraday, Pablo Picasso and Walt Disney, dyslexics have spun images in their heads, played with them, and have created some of the most spell-binding inventions and discoveries."
Correlation to causation fallacy.

If you're a genius, you won't have to look that up.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#159111 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Just because some smart people had the disability, doesn't make it less of a disability, it just makes them a lot smarter than you.
"Ludwig van Beethoven
Beethoven's challenge was not mental, it was physiological. And more critically, it affected what could be considered his most important sense - that of hearing. At the age of 23 Beethoven started hearing strange noises - the first signs of trouble. He told few about his problem till he could hide it no more and started to use notebooks to communicate. But his music only got better. He channelled all his energy into his compositions, which became more powerful as his deafness worsened. Beethoven composed Symphony No. 9 The Choral, considered one of the greatest musical masterpieces, when he was totally deaf!"

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