Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[CunningLinguist]

Buck Crick wrote:

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I can give you something to do on weekends.
...but make sure your dentist is open on Mondays.

You are the kind of a man that we would use as a blueprint to build an idiot. You smell the coffee but can't find the pot or a cup.

[Aerobatty]

Buck Crick wrote:

<quoted text>That's not what he said.

How 'bout this one:

All humanity is a connected idea of something greater, and when doing harm to one, you harm all, including yourself. When you add peace and comfort, when you lighten someone's burden a little, you have exalted yourself, and served the higher idea. When you extend kindness, you have gotten closer to and are experiencing.....uhhh...the Higher Idea.

I like it.

But, yeah, I seem to have been particularly challenged at executing it at times.

At times?

[Dave Nelson]

http://www.theglobalintelligencer.com/feb2007...

Interesting article. May be of some benefit to Topix atheists, if they can figure how to start.

[Dave Nelson]

Aerobatty wrote:

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When's the wedding?
Are you registered anywhere?
Am I invited?

Of course you are. You're the bride. It will be a modern marriage experiment. We will share you.

Aren't you excited?

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>No they're not. Religious dogme being in government and forcing religion on folks are two different things.

If you see the Ten Commandments at a courthouse, are you now forced to obey them?

When you see gargoyles perched on a building, are you forced to fear them?

When 2 gay people are in love and want to marry, but can't because of a law that originates in religion, then religion is being forced on them.

[RiversideRedneck]

Aerobatty wrote:

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When 2 gay people are in love and want to marry, but can't because of a law that originates in religion, then religion is being forced on them.

Gays can't marry?

[Aerobatty]

Givemeliberty wrote:

<quoted text>The Dave method of learning shown again.

From the ignorance level of his recent posts it seems he has been ahem studying with the wall a lot lately.

I think the wall'a name is Buck.

[Aerobatty]

Dave Nelson wrote:

<quoted text>Uh, you just pretty much said what I said. Except you think all of the organization is done on the fly. With no checksums.

But here the utter reality. Those words and brain processes have to be turned into "reality", meaning physical processes you can identify with, like the ones that created us and we live in? Otherwise you have a bunch of random firing neurons with no where to go.

Go break a finger, it will do you some good. Get a good grasp of what momentum and mass is. Banging your head against the wall may be of significant value to you. If done hard enough.

Ever jump off a mountain, Dave?

I have.

You should try it.

[Aerobatty]

Buck Crick wrote:

<quoted text>That's not what "believe" means.

You believe many things you don't know.

Yeah?

So?

[Aerobatty]

Buck Crick wrote:

<quoted text>No. We do not.

Yeah.

We do.

[Aerobatty]

Buck Crick wrote:

<quoted text>School teaches you how to think?

What was your brain doing before you entered a school - playing cards with your kidneys?

Attempting to reason with you would be exhausting if I thought you were worth the effort.

You're not.

[KittenKoder]

Buck Crick wrote:

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OK. I'll try again, since you insist.
He is saying when they were handing out brains, you were over in the mouth line asking for seconds.
Better?

That's still just a summary, not a translation. I don't need you to interpret this, I know you believe interpretations can actually mean something but that's not the case.

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Gays can't marry?

They cannot utilize the benefits offered hetero marriages, so no, they cannot legally be married.

[Aerobatty]

Dave Nelson wrote:

<quoted text>wilderide wrote:
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Exactly. And we know how effective prayer is.

These clowns expect direct responses to direct requests. Poofing on demand because you requested. Plus they expect it with no payment. Shows the limits of their minds.

They ignore the roundabout ways prayers can get answered. Mostly because they lack the mental wherewithal to recognize such things.

So who is praying for children to starve to death?

Who's praying for childhood leukemia?

Who is praying for birth defects?

Because their prayers seem to be working.

[Aerobatty]

Dave Nelson wrote:

<quoted text>Aerobatty wrote:
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A good school doesn't teach you what to think.
It teaches you how.
Your school has failed you miserably.

He was playing with his brain. It was nice and squishy, like his doo doo.

Come to think of it...

How would you know what my doo doo felt like?

[Dave Nelson]

Aerobatty wrote:

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Ever jump off a mountain, Dave?
I have.
You should try it.

Must have been a very skinny mountain.

Did you mean a cliff?

Sounds fun. Will you jump with me? No hang gliders or those fancy modern gadgets.

[Aerobatty]

Buck Crick wrote:

<quoted text>Concluding that "everything we were told as children was a lie" is a belief. You cannot know it for sure, since you cannot even remember everything you were told as a child.

You mis-defined "atheism", but still could not remove the belief.

Atheism is the adoption of a belief. The belief is there is no god.

It is belief in the "no god" position.

It is amazing to watch how dishonest atheists are. They will say their position is "no belief", then proceed to state their belief.

So what?

I believe there is no god.

I don't believe there is a god.

I believe those two statements are essentially equivalent.

Have you ever asked yourself why this seems to be so important to you?

Is your best argument petty semantics?

[Dave Nelson]

Aerobatty wrote:

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How would you know what my doo doo felt like?

It's written on the bathroom walls.

You are really too stupid to be trying to be a smart ass.

[Dave Nelson]

Aerobatty wrote:

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So who is praying for children to starve to death?
Who's praying for childhood leukemia?
Who is praying for birth defects?
Because their prayers seem to be working.

Evidently not the same ones praying you get a brain.

[Aerobatty]

Buck Crick wrote:

<quoted text>But that's not a belief, of course. Right?

Just because you said "I believe..."?

At least when an atheist uses the word "believe" or "belief" he implies an element of doubt.

That's a difference between a theist and an atheist.

A theist denies any doubt when he uses those words in reference to his god.