Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158706 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
When's the wedding?
Are you registered anywhere?
Am I invited?
Of course you are. You're the bride. It will be a modern marriage experiment. We will share you.

Aren't you excited?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158707 Mar 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>No they're not. Religious dogme being in government and forcing religion on folks are two different things.

If you see the Ten Commandments at a courthouse, are you now forced to obey them?

When you see gargoyles perched on a building, are you forced to fear them?
When 2 gay people are in love and want to marry, but can't because of a law that originates in religion, then religion is being forced on them.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158708 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
When 2 gay people are in love and want to marry, but can't because of a law that originates in religion, then religion is being forced on them.
Gays can't marry?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158709 Mar 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>The Dave method of learning shown again.

From the ignorance level of his recent posts it seems he has been ahem studying with the wall a lot lately.
I think the wall'a name is Buck.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158710 Mar 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, you just pretty much said what I said. Except you think all of the organization is done on the fly. With no checksums.

But here the utter reality. Those words and brain processes have to be turned into "reality", meaning physical processes you can identify with, like the ones that created us and we live in? Otherwise you have a bunch of random firing neurons with no where to go.

Go break a finger, it will do you some good. Get a good grasp of what momentum and mass is. Banging your head against the wall may be of significant value to you. If done hard enough.
Ever jump off a mountain, Dave?

I have.

You should try it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158711 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>That's not what "believe" means.

You believe many things you don't know.
Yeah?

So?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158712 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>No. We do not.
Yeah.

We do.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158713 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>School teaches you how to think?

What was your brain doing before you entered a school - playing cards with your kidneys?
Attempting to reason with you would be exhausting if I thought you were worth the effort.

You're not.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#158714 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
OK. I'll try again, since you insist.
He is saying when they were handing out brains, you were over in the mouth line asking for seconds.
Better?
That's still just a summary, not a translation. I don't need you to interpret this, I know you believe interpretations can actually mean something but that's not the case.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#158715 Mar 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Gays can't marry?
They cannot utilize the benefits offered hetero marriages, so no, they cannot legally be married.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158716 Mar 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. And we know how effective prayer is.

These clowns expect direct responses to direct requests. Poofing on demand because you requested. Plus they expect it with no payment. Shows the limits of their minds.

They ignore the roundabout ways prayers can get answered. Mostly because they lack the mental wherewithal to recognize such things.
So who is praying for children to starve to death?

Who's praying for childhood leukemia?

Who is praying for birth defects?

Because their prayers seem to be working.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158717 Mar 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
A good school doesn't teach you what to think.
It teaches you how.
Your school has failed you miserably.

He was playing with his brain. It was nice and squishy, like his doo doo.

Come to think of it...
How would you know what my doo doo felt like?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158718 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever jump off a mountain, Dave?
I have.
You should try it.
Must have been a very skinny mountain.

Did you mean a cliff?

Sounds fun. Will you jump with me? No hang gliders or those fancy modern gadgets.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158719 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Concluding that "everything we were told as children was a lie" is a belief. You cannot know it for sure, since you cannot even remember everything you were told as a child.

You mis-defined "atheism", but still could not remove the belief.

Atheism is the adoption of a belief. The belief is there is no god.

It is belief in the "no god" position.

It is amazing to watch how dishonest atheists are. They will say their position is "no belief", then proceed to state their belief.
So what?

I believe there is no god.

I don't believe there is a god.

I believe those two statements are essentially equivalent.

Have you ever asked yourself why this seems to be so important to you?

Is your best argument petty semantics?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158720 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
How would you know what my doo doo felt like?
It's written on the bathroom walls.

You are really too stupid to be trying to be a smart ass.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158721 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
So who is praying for children to starve to death?
Who's praying for childhood leukemia?
Who is praying for birth defects?
Because their prayers seem to be working.
Evidently not the same ones praying you get a brain.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158722 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>But that's not a belief, of course. Right?

Just because you said "I believe..."?
At least when an atheist uses the word "believe" or "belief" he implies an element of doubt.

That's a difference between a theist and an atheist.

A theist denies any doubt when he uses those words in reference to his god.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158723 Mar 6, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Gays can't marry?
Ate you always this disingenuous?

Silly me. Of course you are.

Gays can't marry ANOTHER GAY OF THE SAME GENDER in most states.

But you knew what I meant.

You're just a dishonest sack of shit.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158725 Mar 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Must have been a very skinny mountain.

Did you mean a cliff?

Sounds fun. Will you jump with me? No hang gliders or those fancy modern gadgets.
One was a cliff.

One was a mountain.

If you want to do it without those fancy gadgets, you go first.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158726 Mar 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>It's written on the bathroom walls.

You are really too stupid to be trying to be a smart ass.
Oh.

I'll stop trying then.

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