Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[Givemeliberty]

Lmfao!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha!

That's that's that's just.....

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha!!!

Having a senile moment Dave?

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Your journey of discovery consists of reading books. Mine was breaking parts of my body in doing it. In addition to reading books.
Do you really think your blathering impresses me?

[blacklagoon]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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You are full of shit.
Just another delusional Utopian.
I'm terrified of death, eh?
It's not a fun event. Nothing you would want to do for recreation. But I checked out before in a conscious state. You haven't. You are whistling past the graveyard.
If you are lucky your end will be very quick and final. A done deal. If you get sick and linger, I will guarantee you will go through some agony as that end approaches. Your whistling will stop. You will realize the illusory life you led. Reality really starts to set in. Good luck to you.
The difference between you and me and experience with that subject is I went through that emotional agony. You talk big. Let's say we see it coming and it is unavoidable, we can join hands and walk into death. I would just step from here to there, but likely to pause because I will have to pull you those last steps. Or I may just let you go.

Should I become sick and know that I will linger in agony, I have the means for a quick and painless death should it come to that. I have no moral restraints as you do. Killing yourself is a sin right? I am not restricted by any such foolishness.

[Dave Nelson]

blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>You....are the last person on the face of the earth that I would care to impress.

Good for you. Would disturb your comfort level if it was important to you.

[Dave Nelson]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Lmfao!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha!
That's that's that's just.....
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha!!!
Having a senile moment Dave?
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That man has some age, experience, and intelligence, and his blathering doesn't impress me.

Can you even grasp how less significant you are to me, or to anyone else?

I figure not. There is nothing in you but the noise you can make.

[Givemeliberty]

Well Dave just called you out fella! He so rightfully dubbed you as one of them there book reading types! Yes he pointed out the fact that you unlike him received a tsk proper education! Reading those books with few or no pictures!

How you gonna reach magnet heaven and misunderstand everything like he does if you insist on reading books!

Pffftttt!

The Dave way of learning involves not those picture light books but hurting yourself and suffering several head injuries. Only after a baker's dozen head injuries and permanent brain damage can you have an NDE that isn't even an NDE! Or that deists tell people to believe in Jesus or burn in Hell forever! Or that intelligent design has to be correct because of wrestling with green mist strings in a dream/hallucination after banging your head! Ain't wrestling green mist strings enough proof that Jesus exists for you?

Now do like Dave does and put down them there learning books and get to injuring your head.

Lol!:))

blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>You....are the last person on the face of the earth that I would care to impress.

[Dave Nelson]

blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>Should I become sick and know that I will linger in agony, I have the means for a quick and painless death should it come to that. I have no moral restraints as you do. Killing yourself is a sin right? I am not restricted by any such foolishness.

Big talk, Bubba. You have too much to lose. Including your memories.

Killing yourself to escape is stupid. I have no religious morals about that if that is what you are saying. You haven't read what I have written about myself, have you?

[Givemeliberty]

Plus I like reading them there fancy city slicker learning books and don't hurt myself! Of all the nerve eh Dave?

Dave Nelson wrote:

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That man has some age, experience, and intelligence, and his blathering doesn't impress me.
Can you even grasp how less significant you are to me, or to anyone else?
I figure not. There is nothing in you but the noise you can make.

[Dave Nelson]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Plus I like reading them there fancy city slicker learning books and don't hurt myself! Of all the nerve eh Dave?
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http://www.vice.com/read/flip-v14n4

[Dave Nelson]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Plus I like reading them there fancy city slicker learning books and don't hurt myself! Of all the nerve eh Dave?
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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_as...

[blacklagoon]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Big talk, Bubba. You have too much to lose. Including your memories.
Killing yourself to escape is stupid. I have no religious morals about that if that is what you are saying. You haven't read what I have written about myself, have you?

If death is emanate and there is no possibility of recovery then why keep yourself alive? Just to suffer? Assisted suicide should be made legal. You know why its not? Because of religion. Once more religion raises its ugly head and forces it's beliefs on the masses. For what other reason is there that a sick and dying person can't decide to end his misery?

[blacklagoon]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Good for you. Would disturb your comfort level if it was important to you.

In a perfect world, every human should be important to everyone. To bad religion gets in the way and draws insurmountable lines in the sand. I'd be willing to bet that should we actually meet, that our attitudes towards each other would change. Maybe not, but I think yes!

[Dave Nelson]

blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>If death is emanate and there is no possibility of recovery then why keep yourself alive? Just to suffer? Assisted suicide should be made legal. You know why its not? Because of religion. Once more religion raises its ugly head and forces it's beliefs on the masses. For what other reason is there that a sick and dying person can't decide to end his misery?

No one is stopping you, is there?

If you really want to die you will. People do it all the time.

Assisted suicide cuts into the medical industry's profits.

Goodnight.

[Aura Mytha]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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No one is stopping you, is there?
If you really want to die you will. People do it all the time.
Assisted suicide cuts into the medical industry's profits.
Goodnight.

It's about time ain't it? lol

[Givemeliberty]

When it comes to idiotic godbot statements this one of Dave's is nirvana. I mean what more can you ask out a bible thumping Christhole to admit that they are against the reading of books and prefer self injury as a learning tool?

The jokes write themselves.

Dave has plunged deeper into stupidity and ignorance than Inwould wager any other believer on this forum.

This statement of his that he made in sheer honest anger is the pinnacle of belief stupidity and shows the real problem with believers.

I think the only way he could have made it better is if he said Jesus told him that books were bad and self harm was good.

Ladies and gentlemen I give you Dave Nelson the prime example of a believer in God. Books bad.. Self injury good.... Quote Dave Nelson. Never dumber.

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Your journey of discovery consists of reading books. Mine was breaking parts of my body in doing it. In addition to reading books.
Do you really think your blathering impresses me?

[Buck Crick]

blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>If death is emanate and there is no possibility of recovery then why keep yourself alive? Just to suffer? Assisted suicide should be made legal. You know why its not? Because of religion. Once more religion raises its ugly head and forces it's beliefs on the masses. For what other reason is there that a sick and dying person can't decide to end his misery?

Imminent...

I don't have any religion.

Want me to come over and smother you with your pillow right now?

The world would consider it a favor.

[Buck Crick]

Hidingfromyou wrote:

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You're kind of jumping to conclusions there - he didn't say he was an atheist or anti-god. I know lots of scientists who are also Christians. They just take a longer view than other Christians and tacitly assume God's plan involved abiogenesis and evolution. I suppose, if the universe is designed by your God (ha!- why not any of the others?), then the words should really be "apparent" abiogenesis.
RR, there are facts, yes, but our ability to understand them is not perfect. Facts, as you use the term, are phenomena left over from events in the past - the microwave background radiation from the Big Bang that we use to describe and study it, fossils, ancient rocks, etc. You know we get all of our understanding of Earth's early environment from ancient rocks?(and models based on predictions made in chemistry and physics).
So how good our science is at measuring, studying - even noticing - these "facts" is the limit of our ability to know the past.

There are also atheists and agnostics in science who do not accept the theory of evolution as stated, nor abiogenesis. They object on scientific and logical grounds.

[blacklagoon]

Buck Crick wrote:

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Imminent...
I don't have any religion.
Want me to come over and smother you with your pillow right now?
The world would consider it a favor.

Embarrassed because you don't understand how evolution works? Have no idea what the word component means and how it factors in with the process of evolution? Yeah, I'd be mightily embarrassed if I were you.

[Catcher1]

Buck Crick wrote:

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There are also atheists and agnostics in science who do not accept the theory of evolution as stated, nor abiogenesis. They object on scientific and logical grounds.

Booh!

This is your conscience, the First Amendment.

And Thomas Jefferson.

[Buck Crick]

Hidingfromyou wrote:

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If only some individuals in a population survive and they do so because of a trait they have, and that trait is passed onto their offspring, that is evolution, Buck.
I really can't see how you're denying that natural selection is an evolutionary process. It is the mechanism by which adaptation evolves.
Genetic drift doesn't produce adaptation. Gene flow rarely does. It's natural selection, baby, all the way.

You added another component to natural selection to get what you claim is evolution. That's my point - natural selection is not evolution.

I agree natural selection is the proposed mechanism of evolution.

But it is not evolution.

Passing the trait that allowed survival is in no way a different process than if the trait had not aided survival. That is simple reproduction.

Nothing in the example offered yet is evolution.

Natural selection is not evolution. If it were, we would have no use for the term "evolution". We would simply say the process of natural selection gives us our biologic diversity.

If you divorce science from logic, it ends up being mush - which is what attempts to describe evolution has become.

[River Tam]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Big talk, Bubba. You have too much to lose. Including your memories.
Killing yourself to escape is stupid. I have no religious morals about that if that is what you are saying. You haven't read what I have written about myself, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...