Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157966 Mar 3, 2013
atheists dont have a clue wrote:
<quoted text>Might makes right?
In Buck's case, yes.

At least, he thinks it does.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157967 Mar 3, 2013
dethrushmonks wrote:
if god is real it doesn't matter because i donate to charity and am still going to heaven.. from not having received my consolation..

and uh.. he can't be real because.. see.. people had different religions...

native americans for instance still don't even believe in that religion even though they were colinized.. and blacks used to only accept their voodoo religion..

people from india stil have hinduism..

see there are too many religions to take your own even seriously..

why is my religion right and all the ohter ones wrong.. what is the conclusion..

we are ALL wrong..!! PERIOd there is NO GOd !! AT ALL..
Yup.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157969 Mar 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Max Planck is not a biblical character. He was a Nobel physicist.

Hope that clears up your confusion.
Now you comparing Dave's word salad to Max Planck?

Rofl!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157970 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The body itself brings on the hallucination.
<quoted text>
That's brilliant, Moron.

Let's compare your brilliant analysis with the neurosurgeon and neuroendocrinologist that ACTUALLY HAD THE EXPERIENCE.

The audience can decide who is more credible, the neurosurgeon, or the Moron. This is Alexander's response to being insulted by Sam Harris:

"In an effort to explain the “ultra-reality” of the experience, I examined this hypothesis: Was it possible that networks of inhibitory neurons might have been predominantly affected, allowing for unusually high levels of activity among the excitatory neuronal networks to generate the apparent “ultra-reality” of my experience? One would expect meningitis to preferentially disturb the superficial cortex, possibly leaving deeper layers partially functional. The computing unit of the neocortex is the six-layered “functional column,” each with a lateral diameter of 0.2–0.3 mm. There is significant interwiring laterally to immediately adjacent columns in response to modulatory control signals that originate largely from subcortical regions (the thalamus, basal ganglia, and brainstem). Each functional column has a component at the surface (layers 1–3), so that meningitis effectively disrupts the function of each column just by damaging the surface layers of the cortex. The anatomical distribution of inhibitory and excitatory cells, which have a fairly balanced distribution within the six layers, does not support this hypothesis. Diffuse meningitis over the brain’s surface effectively disables the entire neocortex due to this columnar architecture. Full-thickness destruction is unnecessary for total functional disruption. Given the prolonged course of my poor neurological function (seven days) and the severity of my infection, it is unlikely that even deeper layers of the cortex were still functioning in more than isolated pockets of small networks.
The thalamus, basal ganglia, and brainstem are deeper brain structures (“subcortical regions”) that some colleagues postulated might have contributed to the processing of such hyperreal experiences. In fact, all agreed that none of those structures could play any such role without having at least some regions of the neocortex still functional. All agreed in the end that such subcortical structures alone could not have handled the intense neural calculations required for such a richly interactive experiential tapestry.
There are 9 hypotheses discussed in an appendix of my book that I derived based on conversations with colleagues. None of them explained the hyper-reality in any brain-based fashion."

It's simple, huh Moron? The body did it.

You are pathetic.

“Kalamazoo, MI ”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#157971 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
In Buck's case, yes.
At least, he thinks it does.
You don't think that Buck is that stupid, do you?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157972 Mar 3, 2013
Self admitted Christian and he doesn't even try to hide this. You quivering man-boobs and spare tires that shake with rage during your temper tantrums doesn't change this.

Next up green leafy vegetables are good for you!
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a liar, and you are also wrong.
Eben Alexander, ATTENDED an Episcopal church. He was a Christian!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157973 Mar 3, 2013
No idea what you're talking about with your link less assertion that you just made up. Regardless it doesn't change the fact that Eben is a Christian and in fact cheerily gushed about his Christianity in the interview I saw him doing a while back.

Just like Michael Behe, you know the guy at that Christian think tank discovery institute?

Have you thought about using a treadmill?
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Moron,
Speaking of hucksters, why would huckster Sam Harris write an insulting article about Eben Alexander, then refuse to debate him on his experience?
Need a hint?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157974 Mar 3, 2013
Lmfao! Hey Dave do you seriously buy this horsesht or are you putting us on?
Dave Nelson wrote:
Physical bodies are loaner vehicles for spirits to drive. But instead of that spirit doing all of the driving, a totally separate consciousness, it is merged with the vehicle.
Just like any vehicle, it has limits and capabilities you have to learn.
That is why you can have a piece of shit driving a Ferrari, and a diamond driving a rambling wreck.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157975 Mar 3, 2013
Can you say maybe word linguini? Word salad brings up scary visions of green leafy vegetables that Chunky Buck clearly avoids.

Be kind :)
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you comparing Dave's word salad to Max Planck?
Rofl!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157976 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you comparing Dave's word salad to Max Planck?
Rofl!
I quoted Max Planck.

I placed the quote under Dave's.

The rest is up to you, idiot. But if you don't see the commonality, you are more stupid than you already proved to be.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#157977 Mar 3, 2013
atheists dont have a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't think that Buck is that stupid, do you?
Psychopaths rarely are stupid , they are quite intelligent.
But they do stupid things, believe stupid things , and think they are smarter than they actually are.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157978 Mar 3, 2013
Topix atheists aren't "stupid", per se. They can use computers, it appears.

The reason for their apparent mental dysfunction is purely and simply emotions. a soul level thing, overriding reason and rationality. They are confused.

That is why none of them can go back and read their own posts and see how nothing but emotional thinking is presented. Truly intellectual reasoning is a very rare display from them. That is why they read from the atheist book of talking points and dogma. And scream for others to prove there is something more to life than what they are experiencing. They need life rings.

Or a flushing.

Their issues are beyond what mankind can fix.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157979 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Self admitted Christian and he doesn't even try to hide this. You quivering man-boobs and spare tires that shake with rage during your temper tantrums doesn't change this.
Next up green leafy vegetables are good for you!
<quoted text>
You don't know what a christian is. You don't know what an atheist is.

Tell us, do you even know when your bowels move?

You lost. Move on. You would be well-advised not to comment on neuroscience or NDEs in the future, since you look dumber every time you do.

I'll see if I can think of something safe for you to comment on, given your expertise.

It won't be easy. Maybe ass-wiping. Any thoughts on it?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157980 Mar 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Psychopaths rarely are stupid , they are quite intelligent.
But they do stupid things, believe stupid things , and think they are smarter than they actually are.
Are you referring to the Obama administration?

I'll pass it along.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157981 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Lmfao! Hey Dave do you seriously buy this horsesht or are you putting us on?
<quoted text>
Your mental issues are revealed in the quality of your posts.

Let me guess. You started using drugs other than marijuana around age 14.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157982 Mar 3, 2013
Yes the body can and is shown to do this.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9...

See I provided a working link, neat eh?

Here we see even theist scientists admit neurochemistry and personal psychology shape a person's NDE.

Now about those green leafy vegetables and a treadmill....
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
That's brilliant, Moron.
Let's compare your brilliant analysis with the Christian neurosurgeon and neuroendocrinologist that ACTUALLY HAD THE HALLUCINATION!
It's simple, The body did it.
You are correct.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157983 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Self admitted Christian and he doesn't even try to hide this. You quivering man-boobs and spare tires that shake with rage during your temper tantrums doesn't change this.
Next up green leafy vegetables are good for you!
<quoted text>
Eben Alexander did not believe in God before his near-death-experience. He said so. He said so before; he said so after.

But you know more about it than he does?

You also know more about neuroscience than he does? He's a neurosurgeon, with advanced training in neuroendocrinology. But you know more about brain function and NDEs than he does?

Question: Was Thomas Jefferson a "christian"?

(After you answer, I will show you the relevance to the present discussion. It will illustrate clearly why you are wrong, and also, it will make you look stupid. I will enjoy that part.)

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157984 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes the body can and is shown to do this.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9...
See I provided a working link, neat eh?
Here we see even theist scientists admit neurochemistry and personal psychology shape a person's NDE.
Now about those green leafy vegetables and a treadmill....
<quoted text>
No, the body has never been shown to do this.

The theories in your link have been debunked by science.

Nice job providing a link, though. Too bad it's crap.

I published an article myself showing 10 reasons the Nelson hypothesis (U. of Kentucky) of REM Intrusion is false, and is not supported by the evidence. Nelson's theory is stupid on its face.

Now you can go back to Googling "Debunking NDEs".

Great work, chump.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157985 Mar 3, 2013
But you actually didn't even have an NDE right geriatric Dave? You just got knocked out and had a goofy dream/ hallucination. Boxers experience those all the time. You like them suffered brain damage that lingers on sadly.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your mental issues are revealed in the quality of your posts.
Let me guess. You started using drugs other than marijuana around age 14.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157986 Mar 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your mental issues are revealed in the quality of your posts.
Let me guess. You started using drugs other than marijuana around age 14.
Yes, he did. That's also when he started experimenting with poking foreign objects up his ass.

By "foreign", I mean foreign to his ass. They most likely were made in America, or China.

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