Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#157749 Mar 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Calm down, calm down.
Lemme get you a drink, then you can tell me all about it.
What was the lecture on?
Make it a large one!!! Orange juice, i mean!

It was basically 2 hours of; science is the answer to everything, there is no consciousness, we r not real human-beings, coz real is just our imagination, we r just machines! If u think the universe was created u need help!

U can imagine how pissed-off i was!!!! Oh but wait, i'm not real, so my emotions aren't real, so me being pissed-off wasn't real! Man, i should have punched him, coz my punch isn't real either!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#157750 Mar 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What fossils?
Care to be specific?
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/arti...

Since: Apr 12

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#157751 Mar 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>Say what? That science knows everything or that evolution created the first organisms?

Silly scientists say it all the time!! It's so shocking that intellectual people can be so dumb and arrogant!!

I'm sure Richard Dawkins said that evolution proves that there is no creator and no intelligent design to the universe! WTF?? HOW?

Also, then u got Stephen Hawking coming up with his theory of everything and attacking other ways of thinking and he thinks his way is the only right way. WFT? WHY?

This is absolutely shocking!! Scientists are turning into fanatic nutty people. They choose to ignore all other evidence and focus on the evidence they want to focus on. They just want to ignore consciousness and focus on matter. Science can't do that, it just can't! U can't be biased if u want to find out the truth!
Yes. Scientist are turning it to nut jobs because they feel the pressure of all there life longs work falling into pieces.
They're falling and can't get up.

Since: Apr 12

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#157752 Mar 2, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>First...so what is the Higgs, and why does it give matter mass?

Second, isn't it funny that we are compelled to correct clueless hacks who don't have a clue about the merest detail on which they write?
"Second, isn't it funny that we are compelled to correct clueless hacks who don't have a clue about the merest detail on which they write?"

Yes it is! Why do we bother?

Since: Apr 12

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#157753 Mar 2, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>First...so what is the Higgs, and why does it give matter mass?

Second, isn't it funny that we are compelled to correct clueless hacks who don't have a clue about the merest detail on which they write?
"First...so what is the Higgs"

"Peter Ware Higgs CH FRS FRSE (born 29 May 1929) is a British theoretical physicist and emeritus professor at the University of Edinburgh.[2]

He is best known for his 1960s proposal of broken symmetry in electroweak theory, explaining the origin of mass of elementary particles in general and of the W and Z bosons in particular. This so-called Higgs mechanism, which was proposed by several physicists besides Higgs at about the same time, predicts the existence of a new particle, the Higgs boson (which was often described as "the most sought-after particle in modern physics"[3][4]). CERN announced on 4 July 2012 that they had experimentally established the existence of a Higgs-like boson,[5] but further work is needed to analyse its properties and see if it has the properties expected from the Standard Model Higgs boson.[6] The Higgs mechanism is generally accepted as an important ingredient in the Standard Model of particle physics, without which certain particles would have no mass.[7]

Higgs has been honoured with a number of awards in recognition of his work, including the 1981 Hughes Medal from the Royal Society, the 1984 Rutherford Medal from the Institute of Physics, the 1997 Dirac Medal and Prize for outstanding contributions to theoretical physics from the Institute of Physics, the 1997 High Energy and Particle Physics Prize by the European Physical Society, the 2004 Wolf Prize in Physics, the 2009 Oskar Klein Memorial Lecture medal from the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, the 2010 American Physical Society J. J. Sakurai Prize for Theoretical Particle Physics and a unique Higgs Medal from the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 2012.[8] The recent potential discovery of the Higgs boson prompted fellow physicist Stephen Hawking to note that he thought that Higgs should receive the Nobel Prize in Physics for his work.[9][10]"

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#157754 Mar 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I told u! Richard dawkins thinks evolution created organisms and that he 100% knows that the universe has no intelligent design. He said he is willing to have an intellectual discussion about a scientific God, but he will not accept the possibility! WHY NOT? How can a scientist say he is not even gonna think of an alternative theory and just stick to one coz he don't want to talk about a God coz he don't care!
James Watson has said so much sh*t without evidence. He said black people r thick cos of genes and he said stupid is a DISEASE of the genes!
I will not support scientists who talk sh*t!!! They r giving a bad name to science! science is about coming up with an hypothesis and testing it and taking into consideration ALL the evidence! Half of science today is people's views/theories stated as facts and it's ridiculous that if anyone speaks out against it, they are called nuts and said to be against science!
First, he never said organisms were "created" at all, and he certainly didn't state that evolution answers the beginning of life. Also he has not actually said that there is no god, just that the christian god cannot exist, and I concur with him on that. I don't much like some of his personality traits, but you must be honest when speaking about someone anyone can watch and read on.

You mean this James Watson? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson

You will have to be more specific, as in actual references where he said those things, because the way you post it makes you look dishonest. This, combined with your complete misrepresentation of Dawkins, actually makes your entire argument questionable.

Now, you have a bit to learn about scientific theories, they are not some wild guess answer, they are not just "this is how I see it" assertions, they are not assertions at all, actually. They are, in fact, an explanation of how pieces of information fit together. A theory is only accepted after a lot of testing, verification, and evidence is collected. So no, there is no alternate theory to the theory of evolution just as there is no alternate theory to relativity or chemical theory.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#157755 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"Second, isn't it funny that we are compelled to correct clueless hacks who don't have a clue about the merest detail on which they write?"
Yes it is! Why do we bother?
You bother because you are attempting to convince yourself that your belief is actually reality in spite of having no solid evidence to support or even suggest it.

I bother because it's good brain exercise and actually allows me to show off the cool things I have been learning. Not to mention, it's fun knowing that I know more about the universe than you do.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157756 Mar 2, 2013
Why mad scientists are dangerous.

You can try this at home.

Take your computer. It is designed to channel energy in particular ways to achieve a desired function. All of those circuits and materials were arranged deliberately.

Now, get an adapter and plug it into 240v.

The reason it doesn't work anymore is because those materials couldn't handle the extra energy. Molecules and thingies got rearranged and it don't work no more.

Now, let's take Momma Earth. For a long tim eth eold girl has been sitting here catching all of this energy from the universe, and channeling it through her lovely self. It is what made her so beautiful. But not by her own design. That energy pushed and pulled and arranged things to suit itself. It followed the path of least resistance, and if that didn't work, it kicked the shit out of what was in the way made what it could fall in line. This provided a path for later energy to follow. Unless that later energy was in a surge higher, in which it follows th epath of least resistance and then kicks the shit out of what's in the way and makes what it can follow the line. This happens on aperiodic basis.

The poles are antennas and conduits for most of this energy on a day to day basis. Sailing in the solar wind and catching the breeze.

Whether this lovely lady was created by design, or just happened to grow that way, this is how she was shaped, and ultimately us.

We live in the conductors formed. You start playing around too much and you can attract more energy than you want. You may not be able to press a reset button.

Simple example of the process. Throw various materials, conductive or not, between two electrodes. Zap the electrodes with high voltage. It will start pushing conductive materials together. After a while with enough zapping, they will join. Which, BTW, will draw more amps as the resistance lowers.

The nuclear forces and gravity is not what shapes this planet. It is what hits it.
stupidednous

Voorhees, NJ

#157757 Mar 2, 2013
ithere's no god do your job to explain to us how and why..

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157758 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Not getting it???????
Arrgh.

In the tables. The relative volume of the assumed actual universe versus the observable universe. At least 21 times greater.

Since: Apr 12

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#157759 Mar 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>No, ALL STUPID atheists/religious people think they know-it-all!!

We had this scientist give a lecture at my uni and i'm just so pissed off, don't fuel the fire! i'm warning u! I've had it up to here with stupid atheists/religious retards!
" ALL STUPID atheists/religious people think they know-it-all!! "

This statement kind of puts you in that category. You can't possible know what "All" stupid atheists/religious people think.

That's kind of like the opening statement in a lot of children's dinosaurs books, it goes something like this: "no human has ever seen a real dinosaur."

A rather bold statement seeing as to the fact that the author has in noway asked every human that ever lived if they have ever saw a real dinosaur.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157760 Mar 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Make it a large one!!! Orange juice, i mean!
It was basically 2 hours of; science is the answer to everything, there is no consciousness, we r not real human-beings, coz real is just our imagination, we r just machines! If u think the universe was created u need help!
U can imagine how pissed-off i was!!!! Oh but wait, i'm not real, so my emotions aren't real, so me being pissed-off wasn't real! Man, i should have punched him, coz my punch isn't real either!
:-)

You're a trip. A pleasant one.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#157761 Mar 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Make it a large one!!! Orange juice, i mean!
It was basically 2 hours of; science is the answer to everything, there is no consciousness, we r not real human-beings, coz real is just our imagination, we r just machines! If u think the universe was created u need help!
U can imagine how pissed-off i was!!!! Oh but wait, i'm not real, so my emotions aren't real, so me being pissed-off wasn't real! Man, i should have punched him, coz my punch isn't real either!
I'd be pissed off, too. To have to listen to some closed-minded "scientist" that thinks he knows it all.

ugh

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#157762 Mar 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Make it a large one!!! Orange juice, i mean!
It was basically 2 hours of; science is the answer to everything, there is no consciousness, we r not real human-beings, coz real is just our imagination, we r just machines! If u think the universe was created u need help!
U can imagine how pissed-off i was!!!! Oh but wait, i'm not real, so my emotions aren't real, so me being pissed-off wasn't real! Man, i should have punched him, coz my punch isn't real either!
Sorry, Here's your large orange juice (with a little vodka)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#157763 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
WTF?

A very brief into into what a flying squirrel is the same thing as evidence that they evolved?!?!?

Are you on drugs?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157764 Mar 2, 2013
Wish I knew some math.

Let's see. Observable universe. Let's be generous and give modern cosmology a 50-50 chance of being right.

Now, if we double the potential for being wrong by doubling the volume of the universe, what would the odds be? Then on and on until we get to that 21 times. What would the odds of being right be then?

Since: Apr 12

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#157765 Mar 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Arrgh.

In the tables. The relative volume of the assumed actual universe versus the observable universe. At least 21 times greater.
Lol

Thought you would like that one.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157766 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Lol
Thought you would like that one.
Please, I've been on here long enough to be sensitized and reactive to the stupidity of Topix atheists. You scared me. Thought one of them might have turned you.:-)

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#157767 Mar 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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WTF?
A very brief into into what a flying squirrel is the same thing as evidence that they evolved?!?!?
Are you on drugs?
No, just being lazy and chose the first link instead of actually looking at it. lol Yeah, I screwed that one up.

I should have picked an animal with more information online, I chose a really bad example. So let's chalk that one up to me not thinking clear enough to actually verify my assertion.

I need to sleep, been up all night working on a personal project.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#157768 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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So rocks falling out of the sky is space expanding? Really?
Rocks falling out the sky is gravity, rocks rolling around in your head is reality.

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