Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Mar 11

United States

#157498 Mar 1, 2013
Quiet fatboy the Cartman I'm just big boned excuse won't fly here :)

Your DNA example doesn't work because, first it's a natural occurrence and was mentioned only after being observed and properly documented unlike the god created during campfire tales of desert nomads who sacrificed goats while chanting about their deity.

If you weren't so fat, ugly and stupid you could tell the difference between the two.

Again the concept of DNA was presented after observable and testable data was produced. The concept of god was presented during animal sacrifices by desert nomads who thought the earth was flat and created during the Bronze Age.

Green leafy vegetables Buck, go buy and eat some.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again, GiveMeLiverwurst.
Many things have existed for long periods of time while nobody could show observable evidence of it. Ever heard of the DNA double-helix? Did it begin to exist at the same time as the microscope?
FYI, I am not fat. I weigh 325 and have a lower body fat percentage than you, most likely. And I doubt YOU can bench 500 lb., either.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157499 Mar 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Just before the hockey season started, I was going to play on defense, my partners was going to be Bobby Orr, but got caught with a small nuclear bomb in my $200,000 Ferrari, bright yellow, and a couple of advanced laser weapons the government had been secretly working on. Yeah, I was also part of a secrete government organization that developed space age weaponry. I spent a couple of months is a secret government prison, but escaped after I kicked to asses of twelve highly trained guard, put 9 in the hospital. They eventually gave up looking for me as I was also a master of disguise. Missed getting to play with Bobby though. Oh well!!!!
Shit, poor Buck.

He shoulda been born a famous trumpet player like you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157500 Mar 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
I spent a couple of months is a secret government prison, but escaped after I kicked to asses of twelve highly trained guard, put 9 in the hospital. They eventually gave up looking for me as I was also a master of disguise.
LMMFGDAO!

Ya, and my last name is Lamborghini, I fly them to the moon and scare off the alien invasion force.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157501 Mar 1, 2013
Wish I could find that safe place I put things again.

Damned virtual safe places. They keep disappearing on me.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#157502 Mar 1, 2013
Well he isn't the owner of your local buffet but you and RR have both posted links and arguments from his sites.

Isn't that awesome how he gets his picture taken smiling and hugging those Peru forged dinosaur stones? He says they couldn't be forged because there are 11,000 of them! And of course forging an insanely huge number like 11,000 would just be impossible! 1000 sure, 5000 would be difficult, 10,000 is the Hovind max number that something can be forged! Even though they have workers making batches of them when you visit the museum with the forged stones.

Lmfao!
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
My hero??
You have no clue.
I have no heroes - well, Ted Nugent and G. Gordon Liddy come close. Have to throw in Anthony Munoz. I was starting beside him in pre-season till I got high and got arrested in Miami with two shotguns and dynamite in my truck.
Don't ask.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157503 Mar 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Well he isn't the owner of your local buffet but you and RR have both posted links and arguments from his sites.
Isn't that awesome how he gets his picture taken smiling and hugging those Peru forged dinosaur stones? He says they couldn't be forged because there are 11,000 of them! And of course forging an insanely huge number like 11,000 would just be impossible! 1000 sure, 5000 would be difficult, 10,000 is the Hovind max number that something can be forged! Even though they have workers making batches of them when you visit the museum with the forged stones.
Lmfao!
<quoted text>
I've never heard of the ica stones until today. But I've been reading up on them. The ones you can see being made at their museum are replicas for sale, like a replica Declaration of Independence, or a Mona Lisa. They aren't being advertised as the real deal.

They real ones have a natural varnish on them, caused by bacteria that takes a few thousand years to settle & turn into varnish, all of the "real" ones have that same varnish on the rocks and on the scrapings.

Until you've done exhaustive scientific research on them, it's only your atheist indoctrinated closed-mindedness that makes you scream "GODDIDIT!"

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157504 Mar 1, 2013
Got it!!!

That virtual safe place appeared again and I whacked it with a hammer. It ain't going no place anymore. One dead virtual safe place.

Real physics trumps math.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157505 Mar 1, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
ItÂ’s pretty clear what I said.
Either you are for freedom or you are against it.
It sounds like to me from you reponse you are anti-freedom.
You have a lot of work to do in changing the Constitution.
Talk about oversimplification. One is either for freedom or against it? You are for every freedom of every description? Want to restate that maybe?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157506 Mar 1, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at all. Just add up all the deaths ... not even close to modern warfare since World War I.
Unless there were quite a lot of people before the flood, but that is unknown.
Again, if God's murder rate is less than your arbitrary definition of modern warfare, then God's murders are OK? By that logic, we can determine that the slaughter of the Hugenot by the Catholics in France was morally OK because the death rate was lower than WW2. WTF?
Genocide? God is not partial to races.
Obviously you've never read the Bible.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157507 Mar 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya, true. I'd think it's kinda weird but I wouldn't try to stop them. As long as they're not sacrificing a goat or doing something illegal, I'd leave them be.
But I'm sure if they forced you to watch Battlefield Earth you'd complain. Hell, I think the UN would rush to your defense.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157508 Mar 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody really does anything in the name of atheism...
It's not a cause worth fighting or dying for.
I don't know why you say that, you are an atheist too. Or do you accept the claims of every religion?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#157509 Mar 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't say it created gravity or mass in protons and neutrons.
No, you said it creates gravity. That is wrong.
CunningLinguist

Winter Garden, FL

#157510 Mar 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are born speaking the truth. You have to learn how to lie.
Religion teaches you to lie for its dogma.

All babies are atheists.

All children are atheists until they reach an age where they can truly understand religious doctrine.

There is so much more to consider when parents proclaim that their little ones are Christian or Jewish or Hindu or Muslim and so on.

To say that someone is "Christian" is to say that the someone understands:
1) the story of the life of Jesus as told in the Bible
(2) the concepts of heaven and hell
(3) the concept of "faith" in an invisible entity
(4) sin
(5) forgiveness
(6) the Triune God
(7) communion

With all this complicated theology in mind, picture a 5-month-old infant contentedly filling her diaper, and try to convince anyone that she understands all of the above.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#157511 Mar 1, 2013
That's what the creationist sites and your hero Eric Hovind says and you fall for that? Yabba Dabba Do!

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I've never heard of the ica stones until today. But I've been reading up on them. The ones you can see being made at their museum are replicas for sale, like a replica Declaration of Independence, or a Mona Lisa. They aren't being advertised as the real deal.
They real ones have a natural varnish on them, caused by bacteria that takes a few thousand years to settle & turn into varnish, all of the "real" ones have that same varnish on the rocks and on the scrapings.
Until you've done exhaustive scientific research on them, it's only your atheist indoctrinated closed-mindedness that makes you scream "GODDIDIT!"

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157512 Mar 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>You are born speaking the truth. You have to learn how to lie.
You are born with magical thinking.

You have to out grow it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157513 Mar 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Quiet fatboy the Cartman I'm just big boned excuse won't fly here :)

Your DNA example doesn't work because, first it's a natural occurrence and was mentioned only after being observed and properly documented unlike the god created during campfire tales of desert nomads who sacrificed goats while chanting about their deity.

If you weren't so fat, ugly and stupid you could tell the difference between the two.

Again the concept of DNA was presented after observable and testable data was produced. The concept of god was presented during animal sacrifices by desert nomads who thought the earth was flat and created during the Bronze Age.

Green leafy vegetables Buck, go buy and eat some.
I shudder to think what Bucky would be like without Jesus.

I think it's better we let him have his fantasy.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#157514 Mar 1, 2013
So your Alzheimer's tells you babies are born speaking? Sure Dave they are born, cleaned up, wrapped in a blanket and start discussing stock prices with the parents and hospital staff.

I notice you and Buck have both been praising Jesus today and bashing the Catholic Church. Shall we chalk this up to your pillow talk with you caressing his ample man-breasts or have you two found your church for the big day? Have you got Buck his wedding gown yet?
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are born speaking the truth. You have to learn how to lie.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157515 Mar 1, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
But I'm sure if they forced you to watch Battlefield Earth you'd complain. Hell, I think the UN would rush to your defense.
Well, der..... No one wants to watch a crappy Travolta movie.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157516 Mar 1, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know why you say that, you are an atheist too. Or do you accept the claims of every religion?
Oh no, not this argument again.....

With that logic, I'm an atheist because I believe in one God.?

But you know the definition of an atheist is a person that has no beliefs in any gods.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157517 Mar 1, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion teaches you to lie for its dogma.
All babies are atheists.
All children are atheists until they reach an age where they can truly understand religious doctrine.
There is so much more to consider when parents proclaim that their little ones are Christian or Jewish or Hindu or Muslim and so on.
To say that someone is "Christian" is to say that the someone understands:
1) the story of the life of Jesus as told in the Bible
(2) the concepts of heaven and hell
(3) the concept of "faith" in an invisible entity
(4) sin
(5) forgiveness
(6) the Triune God
(7) communion
With all this complicated theology in mind, picture a 5-month-old infant contentedly filling her diaper, and try to convince anyone that she understands all of the above.
Awesome. So then no one is born gay. They must reach a certain level of maturity to understand sexual behavior and/or "friendly" encounters.

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