Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Feb 28, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
I have an Aussie buddy who is a Methodist minister of all things and he face palms at ID! Yes a Methodist Minister in Australia Lols at ID and accepts the proven science of evolution!
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My best friend is the wife or a Born Again Christian minister, she has a masters degree in theology and is pretty high up in the BAC church hearty. They both shake their heads in wonder at the stupidity of ID.

I am in the same country as Thinking.

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Numbers.

Here is a truth that our number based atheists will deny, deflect, and dodge.

Their universe is a huge paint by numbers painting.

Something provided the numbers for them to fill in.

Such does not lend to creativity beyond shuffling pieces around and calling it something new and different.

Dull. Very dull. No imagination, no creativity, other than their belief they possess those things.

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Feb 28, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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Last time I witnessed you elaborate on the subject, you did not.
I don't know if you've educated yourself since.
Specifically, you could not understand, or chose not to understand, that the Intelligent Design hypothesis does not postulate, nor needs to postulate, nor implies, nor alludes to, nor needs to allude to, a deity.
No.

No deity.

Just an intelligent designer.

Ok, buck.

Back to the restraints for you.

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#157116
Feb 28, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
Atheism is a belief system developed by those needing support for their personal ego's wish to believe they are the best thing that could be created. Out of the magic mist come they.
Belief in the facts they follow a blueprint, and their glorious selves emerged into a pre-made existence architecture is just not allowed. It deprecates their self worth.
Projecting again Dave?
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Feb 28, 2013
 
Yes.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pooh-poohed
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"pooh pooh?"

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ChristineM wrote:
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Abiogenesis and evolution are different things Abiogenesis deals with the origin of life and evolution deals with changes in existing life.
Chemical, synthetic life has been created and it is shown to evolve
http://news.nationalgeographic.co.uk/news/201...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...
Abiogenesis means:

I have no idea how it all started. I just know God didnít do it because,ÖÖ..well because.
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Feb 28, 2013
 
Straw man.
Dave Nelson wrote:
Numbers.
Here is a truth that our number based atheists will deny, deflect, and dodge.
Their universe is a huge paint by numbers painting.
Something provided the numbers for them to fill in.
Such does not lend to creativity beyond shuffling pieces around and calling it something new and different.
Dull. Very dull. No imagination, no creativity, other than their belief they possess those things.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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ID is Pseudoscience
Tell that to the cops they next time they ask you for ID. See if they buy it.

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#157121
Feb 28, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
Numbers.
Here is a truth that our number based atheists will deny, deflect, and dodge.
Their universe is a huge paint by numbers painting.
Something provided the numbers for them to fill in.
Such does not lend to creativity beyond shuffling pieces around and calling it something new and different.
Dull. Very dull. No imagination, no creativity, other than their belief they possess those things.
Oh, I forgot.

That lack of creativity and imagination, and just overall lack of any real ability to think is the basis for their demands for others to "prove" their beliefs and reasons for it. They are too dumb and dull to figure things out themselves.

That is why they cling to their numbers.

People, don't feel compelled to "prove" a daned thing to them. It is like trying to turn a fart into the wind into something other than a fart in the wind.

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Feb 28, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
Numbers.
Here is a truth that our number based atheists will deny, deflect, and dodge.
Their universe is a huge paint by numbers painting.
Something provided the numbers for them to fill in.
Such does not lend to creativity beyond shuffling pieces around and calling it something new and different.
Dull. Very dull. No imagination, no creativity, other than their belief they possess those things.
Thinking wrote:
Straw man.
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Truth you are incapable of seeing.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
ID is embarrassing when I travel outside the USA or am around my international friends who all laugh at the idiots who made up ID and argue for it. Gosh it makes Americans look stupid and I have to remind people only morons fall for that crap.
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Image that, international travel without ID.

Customs may have something to say about that. Tell them when they ask for ID.ďOnly morons travel with ID.Ē Good luck.

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Catcher1 wrote:
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No, but hey listen.
I'm headed to D.C., Supreme Court, gay marriage cases (Perry et al.). Participated in an amicus brief for Howard University, establishing that the current discrimination is no different to the racial/anti miscegenation discrimination that existed well into the 1960s.
Welcome to the new order, Buck.
Dave nad Buck will finally be able to tie the knot.

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ChristineM wrote:
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Projecting again Dave?
I'm not doing the projecting, lovey. That comes from far away.

Sweetness, you are but a pixel on the screen. Try to exercise something that was placed into your makeup. The ability for your mind to occupy another space before your body hits the screen. Look at the picture you are a part of from a higher vantage point. If you can muster the ability.

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Mikko wrote:
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ID isn't science and that's a fact.
Oh sure, right,[wink].

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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The girl is back in all her glory.
Of course you would be happy with your grasp of reality. It is part of the pathology.
You are right about the inventions of man. He couldn't have invented them unless there was something to count.
However, there is a slipping into darkness by those that use them too much. They begin to worship them as entities.
I posted recently about modern math/physics being just another sect of number worshipers. A modern day Kabbalah.
It is curious how these Topix atheists have traits and attitudes of past civilizations. That Kabbalah, wanting to watch lions and Christians, and a few other archaic beliefs.
Christianity set the stage for modern science. Under it the greatest advances were made. Then these archaic thinkers hijacked science.
I don't think you are really concerned about where those lips have been. I think you are too impulsive to give it thought.
As you are happy with your pathology?

And a window cleaner could not climb ladders to clean you upstairs windows unless there were ladders.

As opposed to worshipping a bronze age guess at mythology as an entity?

Dave, do you have a degree in mathematical sciences? Number theory? Then you views and what you posted are irrelevant

Lions, christians, thatís a great idea, whenís the davesworld management putting on the show?

Actually is was pre christian Greeks that set the stage for modern mathematics and Islam that set the stage for modern science. Christianity tried to inhibit science, just ask Galileo

Again, what you think is irrelevant.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Don't argue about it with me, argue it with "mainstream science"....
"Life on Earth evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.8 billion years ago."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
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"The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor"
evolution.berkeley.edu/
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"we all share a common ancestor in the distant past"
www.newscientist.com/topic/evolution
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The list goes on and on....
Your belief of evolution is HINGED on the assumption that all life came from one life.
And that guess is being taught to our youth as fact.
But ToE says nothing about how that life started.

Was that your point?

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Eagle12 wrote:
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Yes it does and it goes with freedom. Freedom of choice and Freedom of religion.
I say you should start a revolution Comrade Aerobatty and throw out freedom and bring in old world Communism.
Viva zeee Revolution Comrade Aerobatty!!!
Keep your religion

Keep it out of public education.

Keep it out of government.

Keep it out of legislation.

Keep it of public property.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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That is because they are following a carefully constructed script and th logic based upon it. You have to understand this premise before you can understand that one, and the next, and the next, and the next before you get back to the same place. Same as studying Scriptures. With the same belief in the inerrancy of the logic.
What script? Your delusions donít count.

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ChristineM wrote:
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As you are happy with your pathology?
And a window cleaner could not climb ladders to clean you upstairs windows unless there were ladders.
As opposed to worshipping a bronze age guess at mythology as an entity?
Dave, do you have a degree in mathematical sciences? Number theory? Then you views and what you posted are irrelevant
Lions, christians, thatís a great idea, whenís the davesworld management putting on the show?
Actually is was pre christian Greeks that set the stage for modern mathematics and Islam that set the stage for modern science. Christianity tried to inhibit science, just ask Galileo
Again, what you think is irrelevant.
This Greek mathematics?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism

No degrees in math, sweetie. Just the ability to fix physical things they can't.

Before leaning out the window of your ivory tower to view the world, make sure the window washer didn't leave any soapy water on the ledge.

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ChristineM wrote:
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What script? Your delusions donít count.
Do you have any nude pictures of yourself, or sexual activities you engage in that you can share with us? Something interesting since you aren't bringing much in the way of intellectual thought to these discussions. Pseudo and stamped out copies of such don't count.

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