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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157229 Feb 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because they're trying to find God but don't know where to look. Had prayer stayed in schools, you'd know this.
Nope. And I think you know that is a disingenuous answer anyway.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157230 Feb 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Would you be opposed to a law that made christianity the law of the land?
I would. That's anti-American.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157231 Feb 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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So when you say,“foist your religious belief.”
Are you are talking specifically about our right to vote and participate in government at all levels?
Nope. You are free to vote how you like just like everyone else.
The Constitution starts out as,“We the People.”
That doesn’t mean, We the Atheist, but “We the People,” which is inclusive of all people of every race, culture and religion.
People of religious faith have the right to participate and shape their government just like everyone else.
You do, but the government itself will never endorse any religion.
I do understand and support separation of Church and State. For example I would be opposed to a law in the United States that made Sharia Law, the law of the land.
See? We agree. You can put the victim card away now.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157232 Feb 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Prayer in public schools should be banned when it is being directed by School employee’s or administration.
Individual students right to pray is not and should not every be infringed upon. This includes football games and graduation ceremonies.
Individual students are perfectly free to pray as they like individually or in a group of those who agree with them. They are not free to lead the entire school in prayer. Not sure why you got off track there at the end.
Thinking

Shaftesbury, UK

#157233 Feb 28, 2013
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pooh-poohed
Eagle12 wrote:
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"pooh pooh?"
Thinking

Shaftesbury, UK

#157234 Feb 28, 2013
My wife is French, cuntard.
Eagle12 wrote:
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We have a very large piece of real estate here in the US. Unlike for example a small island where everybody knows every body and is related to everybody. We have a lot more diversity and don't need to marry our cousins like they do in island countries and communities.
It would be a lot better if you Brits mixed up your gene pool by marring someone outside the islands. Too much inbreeding is not good thing in the long run. It’s pretty obvious what inbreeding does to your teeth.
All you Brits need a front end alignment with you teeth and your faces look like you have been hit by a truck.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157235 Feb 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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It has nothing whatever to do with a majority of any kind. In fact, quite the reverse. The Constitution and our court system were specifically crafted to protect society from the tyranny of the majority.
A public school does not recognize or legitimize any specific religion, as is true of all other government agencies. If you want your kids to pray, they are free to do so at home, in church, or at a private religious school. The only reason to have prayer in public schools is to proselytize to other kids. It's really that simple, and that is exactly what the courts have reconfirmed time and again. You really don't see that?
I almost agreed with you. The first paragraph was spot on. The second, not so much.

My kids have every right to pray in school as yours do to not pray. My kids have every right to start a prayer group in school or a Christian group in school as any kid has the right not to. So long as the school or it's employees are not advocating or denigrating said group, it's perfectly acceptable and legal.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157236 Feb 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Nope. And I think you know that is a disingenuous answer anyway.
Not really. That is my honest opinion.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157237 Feb 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
My wife is French
Ouch!

I am sorry.....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157238 Feb 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Individual students are perfectly free to pray as they like individually or in a group of those who agree with them. They are not free to lead the entire school in prayer. Not sure why you got off track there at the end.
I've been to many school football games, many City Hall meetings, Realtor meetings & several school celebrations/ceremonies.

ALL of them started with a prayer. Everyone participated, but everyone didn't have to.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157239 Feb 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I almost agreed with you. The first paragraph was spot on. The second, not so much.
My kids have every right to pray in school as yours do to not pray. My kids have every right to start a prayer group in school or a Christian group in school as any kid has the right not to. So long as the school or it's employees are not advocating or denigrating said group, it's perfectly acceptable and legal.
No, you are right. They are free to pray in private, or form private religious groups. We still agree.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157240 Feb 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Not really. That is my honest opinion.
I really doubt that. Are you looking for Shiva or the tooth fairy but don't know where to look? See how silly that is?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157241 Feb 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Not really. That is my honest opinion.
Forgot to add:

Moreover, do you REALLY think anyone who was looking for the Christian God doesn't know where to go? Come on.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#157242 Feb 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I've been to many school football games, many City Hall meetings, Realtor meetings & several school celebrations/ceremonies.
ALL of them started with a prayer. Everyone participated, but everyone didn't have to.
That it happens doesn't mean it's supposed to. It only stops if someone complains about it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157243 Feb 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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No, you are right. They are free to pray in private, or form private religious groups. We still agree.
Can I put away my card now?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157244 Feb 28, 2013
:sigh: So the US and Romania?:shakes head:
tony1003 wrote:
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ID is banned from UK curriculums - about the only country that gives it any credence (aside from a fringe element in the USA) is Rumania.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157245 Feb 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
I really doubt that. Are you looking for Shiva or the tooth fairy but don't know where to look? See how silly that is?
No that's not what I meant.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#157246 Feb 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Forgot to add:
Moreover, do you REALLY think anyone who was looking for the Christian God doesn't know where to go? Come on.
No, I don't.

Where would you go?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#157247 Feb 28, 2013
Yet when that Satanist soldier wanted a satanist head stone his family had a huge fight over that. Fair? It was his wishes and he died for our country so shouldn't the Christholes have shut up and let him have it?
Eagle12 wrote:
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I’m in agreement with what you are saying but with some exceptions.
Crosses on military graves for example should remain.
Because someone is of a Christian faith does not stop their right to participate in government at all levels and vote. The preamble of the Constitution says,“We the People.”
That means all people including Atheist, Christians and people of other cultures and faith.
CunningLinguist

Hernando, FL

#157248 Feb 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
The Topix atheist intellectual contributions to this forum, and others, relevant to religion, existence, or the topic of this thread.
"Christhole"
"Religiturd"
"Yourtoostoopidtoundersta ndbecauseyouareatheist"
"Butwhatabout (fill in blank)"
"Science says"
[fill in blank] says"
"It's all natural processes"(as in what they read in a book)
With intellectual development like that they don't need no faith. Just ask them.
David,
the Devil made me do this...

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1. How did you find out about your Deity?
___ Newspaper
___ Bible
___ Torah
___ Book of Mormon
___ Koran
___ Divine inspiration
___ Dead Sea Scrolls
___ My mama done tol' me
___ Near-death experience
___ Near-life experience
___ National Public Radio
___ Tabloid
___ Burning shrubbery
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___ Father, Son & Holy Ghost [Trinity Pak]
___ Jehovah
___ Jesus
___ Krishna
___ Zeus and entourage [Olympus Pak]
___ Odin and entourage [Valhalla Pak]
___ Allah
___ Satan
___ Gaia/Mother Earth/Mother Nature
___ God 1.0a (hairy thunderer)
___ God 1.0b (cosmic muffin)
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___ Yes
___ No

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indicate all that apply:
___ Not eternal
___ Finite in space/Does not occupy or inhabit the entire cosmos
___ Not omniscient
___ Not omnipotent
___ Not infinitely plastic (incapable of being all things to all creations)
___ Permits sex outside of marriage
___ Prohibits sex outside of marriage
___ Makes mistakes (Geraldo Rivera, Jesse Helms)
___ Makes or permits bad things to happen to good people
___ When beseeched, doesn't stay beseeched
___ Requires burnt offerings
___ Requires virgin sacrifices
___ Plays dice with the universe

4. What factors were relevant in your decision to acquire a Deity? Please
check all that apply.
___ Indoctrinated by parents
___ Needed a reason to live
___ Indoctrinated by society
___ Needed focus in whom to despise
___ Imaginary friend grew up
___ Wanted to know Jesus in the Biblical sense
___ Graduated from the tooth fairy
___ Hate to think for myself
___ Wanted to meet girls/boys
___ Fear of death
___ Wanted to piss off parents
___ Needed a day away from work
___ Desperate need for certainty
___ Like organ music
___ Need to feel morally superior
___ Thought Jerry Falwell was cool
___ My shrubbery caught fire and told me to do it

5. Have you ever worshipped a Deity before? If so, which false god were you fooled by?
Please check all that apply.
___ Mick Jagger
___ Rajanish
___ Baal
___ The almighty dollar
___ Bill Gates
___ Left-wing liberalism
___ The radical right
___ Ra
___ Beelzebub
___ The Great Spirit
___ The Great Pumpkin
___ The sun
___ Elvis
___ The moon
___ TV news
___ Burning shrubbery
___ Other:_________

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