Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#156797 Feb 27, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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LOL
Lets look at their myths
1) Big Bang when nothing exploded.
2) spontaneous self generating life.
3) one very week single cell life form
creating all plant and animal life that ever lived.
4) That atheism will replace God.
LOL!!!
Here, this is much better!!

1.) A mythical being for which not a shred of evidence exists, snapped his fingers and the entire cosmos magically appeared.

2.) This same fictitious being scooped up some dirt, blew on it and a fully formed human male magically appeared.

3.) This same imaginary being ripped one of the males ribs from his body and suddenly, without any further explanation, a fully formed female magically appeared.

4.) All the billions of species suddenly appeared in the form they now appear in. Of course 99% of those became extinct, and apparently, again with no evidence, new fully formed specced magically appeared.

5. Science will replace God, Atheists will have nothing to do with it.

Notice how many times the word "Magical" has to be used, since no other proof is possible. Lets let the intelligent people compare the two.

1.) There is cosmological EVIDENCE for the singularity.(big bang)

2.) There is EVIDENCE that the building block for life, Amino Acids, can come from non-living matter. Complex chemicals zapped with electricity produce the necessary ingredients for life.

3.) There is BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE that from single cells animals more complex organisms arise.

Please take notice of the words EVIDENCE and try as hard as your shriveled religiously poisoned mind will allow, to understand the importance of that single word. The most hated word in the english language ,if you're a brainwashed Theist.
Thinking

Shaftesbury, UK

#156798 Feb 27, 2013
I wouldn't consign it to hell, either.
Leo314 wrote:
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Do you blame a puppy for peeing on the rug? It doesn't know any better...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156799 Feb 27, 2013
Leo314 wrote:
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Do you blame a puppy for peeing on the rug? It doesn't know any better...
Are you comparing yourself to a non-housebroken puppy?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#156800 Feb 27, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Here, this is much better!!
1.) A mythical being for which not a shred of evidence exists, snapped his fingers and the entire cosmos magically appeared.
2.) This same fictitious being scooped up some dirt, blew on it and a fully formed human male magically appeared.
3.) This same imaginary being ripped one of the males ribs from his body and suddenly, without any further explanation, a fully formed female magically appeared.
4.) All the billions of species suddenly appeared in the form they now appear in. Of course 99% of those became extinct, and apparently, again with no evidence, new fully formed specced magically appeared.
5. Science will replace God, Atheists will have nothing to do with it.
Notice how many times the word "Magical" has to be used, since no other proof is possible. Lets let the intelligent people compare the two.
1.) There is cosmological EVIDENCE for the singularity.(big bang)
2.) There is EVIDENCE that the building block for life, Amino Acids, can come from non-living matter. Complex chemicals zapped with electricity produce the necessary ingredients for life.
3.) There is BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE that from single cells animals more complex organisms arise.
Please take notice of the words EVIDENCE and try as hard as your shriveled religiously poisoned mind will allow, to understand the importance of that single word. The most hated word in the english language ,if you're a brainwashed Theist.
Dearest Horn Tooter.

I mentioned the Grand Musician the other day?

That is something I became aware of almost 30 years before I even became aware of things like this video.

The demos start a minute into the video. Turn the audio off if you want. Just watch what happens. Sound, vibrations, creating forms.

EM is the basis for all of those vibrations.



There are other demos on the net if you want to look for them. This was just the first I ran across.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#156801 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Derp. No, He isn't. Jesus singular, people is plural....
Seriously?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
And you are trying to deny a claim without evidence. All you've offered is your opinion about it with your comprison to Jesus Christ's and a human's limitations.
All people should deny extraordinary claims that have no good evidence.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
How so?
I told you how so. There are far more accounts, they're not anonymous, and the people can be questioned.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Let's see if they hold up for the next 2,000 years and 1/3rd of the world's population agrees with it, then we'll talk.
Give me a break, RR. Even you don't believe that longevity or popularity are indicators of religious truth. There are over a billion Muslims and nearly a billion Hindus and you don't think those are true.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#156802 Feb 27, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Here, this is much better!!
1.) A mythical being for which not a shred of evidence exists, snapped his fingers and the entire cosmos magically appeared.
2.) This same fictitious being scooped up some dirt, blew on it and a fully formed human male magically appeared.
3.) This same imaginary being ripped one of the males ribs from his body and suddenly, without any further explanation, a fully formed female magically appeared.
4.) All the billions of species suddenly appeared in the form they now appear in. Of course 99% of those became extinct, and apparently, again with no evidence, new fully formed specced magically appeared.
5. Science will replace God, Atheists will have nothing to do with it.
Notice how many times the word "Magical" has to be used, since no other proof is possible. Lets let the intelligent people compare the two.
1.) There is cosmological EVIDENCE for the singularity.(big bang)
2.) There is EVIDENCE that the building block for life, Amino Acids, can come from non-living matter. Complex chemicals zapped with electricity produce the necessary ingredients for life.
3.) There is BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE that from single cells animals more complex organisms arise.
Please take notice of the words EVIDENCE and try as hard as your shriveled religiously poisoned mind will allow, to understand the importance of that single word. The most hated word in the english language ,if you're a brainwashed Theist.
You may relate to this one better. It may even inspire you.

Since: Feb 13

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#156803 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Are you comparing yourself to a non-housebroken puppy?
I was actually comparing believers to non-housebroken puppies. I'm not defending anyone, but casting blame will get us nowhere, and it brings us down to the level of fanatics. Much wiser to focus on trying to enlighten and educate people so that they can figure our for themselves why their beliefs don't hold up.

Victimizing ourselves is not helping anyone progress, it's acknowledging defeat, and I feel a true atheist is better than that.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#156804 Feb 27, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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They come from living in groups and chemical reactions in the brain. If you try to take a dog's bone, what does he do? He shows his anger and thus, hopefully, avoids a fight.
My dog doesn't get angry when I take his bone or toys, he gets excited and wants me to throw them.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156805 Feb 27, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Emotions can and have been scientifically proved to exist. That is entirely different than explaining why we have them or where they come from. So you are quite wrong to say that science can't prove they exist.
Oh I see. Science doesn't "prove" anything, but it has proven that emotions exist even though it can't say where they come from or why we have them.

Gotcha.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156806 Feb 27, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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How is it you are critical of lack of proof in science but not lack of proof in your religion?
I'm not. There's plenty of proof out there to know that the Bible is accurate.

I'm only making a comparison, that a lot of you Topix atheists say there's no scientific proof of God which means there is no God. But none of you acknowledge the fact that we have emotions even thought they can't be scientifically proven either.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156807 Feb 27, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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The mind of many of these Atheist are maligned and deviant. They fight so very hard against something they donít believe in.
Like the man that claims thereís no fish in the sea yet he wrestles with a fish that is so huge he canít pull him in. Why fight the fish and try to reel him in if there is no fish?
They say God doesnít exist yet they wage war against God as if he does exist. Why fight something that doesnít exist? Unless of course he does exist.
If I didnít believe in God I would just go about my business. Why fight something you donít believe is real?
Good point, there. I don't understand them either. It seems like atheists spend more time talking about God than theists do. The same God they say doesn't exist.

I don't think bigfoot exists, and I sure as shit don't waste any of my time trying to argue with people that do. There's no point.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156808 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Religion exists.
God doesn't.
Prove it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156809 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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If that's the case, then your statement that you have 2 dogs is not an absolute truth, since they will not live forever.
Prove it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156810 Feb 27, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
It seems to me that asking Christians what they believe is a good way to find out what Christians believe.
Crazy talk!
Thank you for that.
No sweat, just want to keep it honest.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156811 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Google scares the shit out of you, doesn't it.
No, but jalapenos gets the shit out of me.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156812 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
God doesn't exist.
The believers are to blame.
"God doesn't exist" is a belief of people like you.

If you think I'm wrong, prove that you're right.

Since: Sep 08

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#156813 Feb 27, 2013


Here is a no audio strictly video of vibrations causing form. Note the total rearrangement of particles at times.

This is mostly 2 dimensional, but it actually happens 3D. Local gravity is interfering with the full expression.

All of this mechanical vibration is derived from what is called the EM force. This surface skin thingy.

What I have posted is that instead of pre-existing particles forming this universe, it is the vibration of "space" itself that creates particles which then forms form. Motion disturbing a medium. This creates the appearance of the nucleus. The "universal forces" were created from without, not from within. That is where modern physics has it assbackwards. Our observation is our frequencies working on those frequencies we are observing. Quantum stuff. That observation inserts you into that process, becoming part of it, and thus getting you in a loop.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#156814 Feb 27, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Seriously?
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All people should deny extraordinary claims that have no good evidence.
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I told you how so. There are far more accounts, they're not anonymous, and the people can be questioned.
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Give me a break, RR. Even you don't believe that longevity or popularity are indicators of religious truth. There are over a billion Muslims and nearly a billion Hindus and you don't think those are true.
Well, this conversation has got us nowhere, except to show that you have a hard time admitting when something is a belief...
Thinking

Shaftesbury, UK

#156815 Feb 27, 2013
"Bigfootists" don't, as a rule, get a say in making small minded legislation that will affect others.

Religitards may have a say, so they need to be opposed.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Good point, there. I don't understand them either. It seems like atheists spend more time talking about God than theists do. The same God they say doesn't exist.
I don't think bigfoot exists, and I sure as shit don't waste any of my time trying to argue with people that do. There's no point.

Since: Sep 08

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#156816 Feb 27, 2013
Leo314 wrote:
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I was actually comparing believers to non-housebroken puppies. I'm not defending anyone, but casting blame will get us nowhere, and it brings us down to the level of fanatics. Much wiser to focus on trying to enlighten and educate people so that they can figure our for themselves why their beliefs don't hold up.
Victimizing ourselves is not helping anyone progress, it's acknowledging defeat, and I feel a true atheist is better than that.
You are too rational an atheist to be on Topix. Leave before these Topix atheists warp your head.

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