Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#156780 Feb 26, 2013
Red Bandana wrote:
do do
You win the prize for the most intelligent post made here in days.

Congrats.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#156781 Feb 27, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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The mind of many of these Atheist are maligned and deviant. They fight so very hard against something they donít believe in.
One minute you say that we are fighting against something that we don't believe in and then the next minute you are tell us that we believe in god, we just don't want to follow his rules.

Which is it?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156782 Feb 27, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
These Topix atheist forums are highly amusing for one veru comical aspect.

Where else can you get acknowledged derivatives of stellar shit, pond scum, monkey orgies, and similar get on and assume a higher morality and purpose in life than those who believe we were designed by a higher intelligence and purpose beyond just having monkey orgies.

Their screeching at God's creations reveals their true identities.

A bit presumptuous of them, but they don't know no better.
Who says we have a purpose in life?

The universe is going to come to an end someday anyway.

I'd rather spend my life exploring and learning (something you should try) than waiting to die so I could be with jesus.

Really Dave. What purpose could we have other than to live and learn and look for happiness?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156783 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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An absolute truth is an unalterable and permanent fact.
If that's the case, then your statement that you have 2 dogs is not an absolute truth, since they will not live forever.

Try again.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156784 Feb 27, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Topix atheists are under the impression their "non-belief" is license to mock and ridicule religions and their adherents for not sharing their "non-belief".
They are protesting discrimination and alleging persecution of their "non-belief". They should be protected from religious persecution, they proclaim.
They have no belief.
They think they are above the laws they seek to protect them, that they are allowed to engage in ridicule and to proselytize their "non-belief".
They won't be prosecuted for being atheists, but for expressing hatred for religions.
Topix atheists are stupid.
The willful ignorance of believers is what gives us license to mock believers.

If you don't want to be made fun of, don't have such silly beliefs.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156785 Feb 27, 2013
Siro wrote:
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We serve God not vice versa Mr Entitlement.
Your last sentence shows you to be a maltheist
Some people prefer to serve humanity.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156786 Feb 27, 2013
Siro wrote:
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We serve God not vice versa Mr Entitlement.
Your last sentence shows you to be a maltheist
BTW, I like that word "maltheist".

Except that an atheist CAN'T be a maltheist.

From rational wiki:

Maltheism (from "mal" meaning bad, or illness, and theism, from... well, theism) is the idea that God is just out to get us and that he or she or it is malicious, like a kid who keeps removing the pool ladders in The Sims. A Maltheist, therefore, is someone who believes that a god or gods exist, and that they are evil, malicious, incompetent, or otherwise causing the suffering of humanity. In essence, Maltheism is the idea that God exists and is not worthy of worship.

I especially like that last line. If a god exists, it's certainly not worthy of worship.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156787 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What makes you think God decides morality?
Pretty much every theist on the planet.

“Think&Care”

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#156789 Feb 27, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yup.
And String Theory fails too.
"If anyone finds a case where all or part of a scientific theory is false"
My new Theory "the Theory of Quantum Relativity Strings"
And if it is false, it has to be modified or replaced. The problem is finding a good modification that fits the evidence and is internally consistent. There are many varieties of string theory that have been formulated. At this point, they are all still in the running, but some are more in trouble than others. There have been many times when theories were 'in trouble' just before they were verified.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156790 Feb 27, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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A interesting concept Doctor. However the vacuum of space would destroy any and all living organism traversing from Mars to the Earth.
Not true.

Bacteria that were brought back from the moon, after being deposited there by previous humans, were brought back to life.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156791 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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YOu know what's really funny? He knocks the Bible when he lied about the Bible saying the Earth is 6,000 years olg then he went on to bitch about the Great Flood, saying "There has been no such flood in the last 4 billion years or so."
4,000,000,000,000 years "or so".......
(with no evidence to support that hugemongous guess)
LMMFAO!
Google scares the shit out of you, doesn't it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156792 Feb 27, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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The Pope attested to that error recently. Was purely a math error on the part of a scribe when they made the new calendar if I remember right.
Damned math heads. They messed up religion. Then science.
Making the math fit the error, eh?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156793 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If you're willing to blame God for these millions of deaths, you should be willing to thank God for the billions of lives....
God doesn't exist.

The believers are to blame.

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#156794 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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The willful ignorance of believers is what gives us license to mock believers.
If you don't want to be made fun of, don't have such silly beliefs.
Tell that to the judge.

You are a classic case of the immature and ignorant being empowered.

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#156795 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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God doesn't exist.
The believers are to blame.
Do you blame a puppy for peeing on the rug? It doesn't know any better...

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#156796 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Who says we have a purpose in life?
The universe is going to come to an end someday anyway.
I'd rather spend my life exploring and learning (something you should try) than waiting to die so I could be with jesus.
Really Dave. What purpose could we have other than to live and learn and look for happiness?
Your last sentence is what I have been preaching on here for a while.

Your obsession with the ills of religion reveals you don't practice that. You engage in mindless stupidity to distract yourself from your unresolved emotional issues. You have no anchor.

You can have fun, explore and all that with Jesus. You don't have to sit back and wait to die to see him. Millions and millions haven't, and don't. You are the one stuck not learning and understanding.

It is remarkable, your reaction to a relative few humans proselytizing their spiritual beliefs, none putting a gun to your head, and letting it run your life. You don't do that with salesmen. You have an issue.

I am not waiting to die and live with Jesus. I am waiting to die to be launched out into the great unknown again, and play it by ear again. I just have a better launchpad now that I did before.

Start accepting people for what they are and not what you think they should be, and you will start to enjoy life more.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#156797 Feb 27, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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LOL
Lets look at their myths
1) Big Bang when nothing exploded.
2) spontaneous self generating life.
3) one very week single cell life form
creating all plant and animal life that ever lived.
4) That atheism will replace God.
LOL!!!
Here, this is much better!!

1.) A mythical being for which not a shred of evidence exists, snapped his fingers and the entire cosmos magically appeared.

2.) This same fictitious being scooped up some dirt, blew on it and a fully formed human male magically appeared.

3.) This same imaginary being ripped one of the males ribs from his body and suddenly, without any further explanation, a fully formed female magically appeared.

4.) All the billions of species suddenly appeared in the form they now appear in. Of course 99% of those became extinct, and apparently, again with no evidence, new fully formed specced magically appeared.

5. Science will replace God, Atheists will have nothing to do with it.

Notice how many times the word "Magical" has to be used, since no other proof is possible. Lets let the intelligent people compare the two.

1.) There is cosmological EVIDENCE for the singularity.(big bang)

2.) There is EVIDENCE that the building block for life, Amino Acids, can come from non-living matter. Complex chemicals zapped with electricity produce the necessary ingredients for life.

3.) There is BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE that from single cells animals more complex organisms arise.

Please take notice of the words EVIDENCE and try as hard as your shriveled religiously poisoned mind will allow, to understand the importance of that single word. The most hated word in the english language ,if you're a brainwashed Theist.
Thinking

Shaftesbury, UK

#156798 Feb 27, 2013
I wouldn't consign it to hell, either.
Leo314 wrote:
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Do you blame a puppy for peeing on the rug? It doesn't know any better...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156799 Feb 27, 2013
Leo314 wrote:
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Do you blame a puppy for peeing on the rug? It doesn't know any better...
Are you comparing yourself to a non-housebroken puppy?

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#156800 Feb 27, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Here, this is much better!!
1.) A mythical being for which not a shred of evidence exists, snapped his fingers and the entire cosmos magically appeared.
2.) This same fictitious being scooped up some dirt, blew on it and a fully formed human male magically appeared.
3.) This same imaginary being ripped one of the males ribs from his body and suddenly, without any further explanation, a fully formed female magically appeared.
4.) All the billions of species suddenly appeared in the form they now appear in. Of course 99% of those became extinct, and apparently, again with no evidence, new fully formed specced magically appeared.
5. Science will replace God, Atheists will have nothing to do with it.
Notice how many times the word "Magical" has to be used, since no other proof is possible. Lets let the intelligent people compare the two.
1.) There is cosmological EVIDENCE for the singularity.(big bang)
2.) There is EVIDENCE that the building block for life, Amino Acids, can come from non-living matter. Complex chemicals zapped with electricity produce the necessary ingredients for life.
3.) There is BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE that from single cells animals more complex organisms arise.
Please take notice of the words EVIDENCE and try as hard as your shriveled religiously poisoned mind will allow, to understand the importance of that single word. The most hated word in the english language ,if you're a brainwashed Theist.
Dearest Horn Tooter.

I mentioned the Grand Musician the other day?

That is something I became aware of almost 30 years before I even became aware of things like this video.

The demos start a minute into the video. Turn the audio off if you want. Just watch what happens. Sound, vibrations, creating forms.

EM is the basis for all of those vibrations.



There are other demos on the net if you want to look for them. This was just the first I ran across.

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