Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

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#156809 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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If that's the case, then your statement that you have 2 dogs is not an absolute truth, since they will not live forever.
Prove it.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156810 Feb 27, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
It seems to me that asking Christians what they believe is a good way to find out what Christians believe.
Crazy talk!
Thank you for that.
No sweat, just want to keep it honest.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156811 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Google scares the shit out of you, doesn't it.
No, but jalapenos gets the shit out of me.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156812 Feb 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
God doesn't exist.
The believers are to blame.
"God doesn't exist" is a belief of people like you.

If you think I'm wrong, prove that you're right.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#156813 Feb 27, 2013


Here is a no audio strictly video of vibrations causing form. Note the total rearrangement of particles at times.

This is mostly 2 dimensional, but it actually happens 3D. Local gravity is interfering with the full expression.

All of this mechanical vibration is derived from what is called the EM force. This surface skin thingy.

What I have posted is that instead of pre-existing particles forming this universe, it is the vibration of "space" itself that creates particles which then forms form. Motion disturbing a medium. This creates the appearance of the nucleus. The "universal forces" were created from without, not from within. That is where modern physics has it assbackwards. Our observation is our frequencies working on those frequencies we are observing. Quantum stuff. That observation inserts you into that process, becoming part of it, and thus getting you in a loop.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156814 Feb 27, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Seriously?
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All people should deny extraordinary claims that have no good evidence.
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I told you how so. There are far more accounts, they're not anonymous, and the people can be questioned.
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Give me a break, RR. Even you don't believe that longevity or popularity are indicators of religious truth. There are over a billion Muslims and nearly a billion Hindus and you don't think those are true.
Well, this conversation has got us nowhere, except to show that you have a hard time admitting when something is a belief...
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#156815 Feb 27, 2013
"Bigfootists" don't, as a rule, get a say in making small minded legislation that will affect others.

Religitards may have a say, so they need to be opposed.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Good point, there. I don't understand them either. It seems like atheists spend more time talking about God than theists do. The same God they say doesn't exist.
I don't think bigfoot exists, and I sure as shit don't waste any of my time trying to argue with people that do. There's no point.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#156816 Feb 27, 2013
Leo314 wrote:
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I was actually comparing believers to non-housebroken puppies. I'm not defending anyone, but casting blame will get us nowhere, and it brings us down to the level of fanatics. Much wiser to focus on trying to enlighten and educate people so that they can figure our for themselves why their beliefs don't hold up.
Victimizing ourselves is not helping anyone progress, it's acknowledging defeat, and I feel a true atheist is better than that.
You are too rational an atheist to be on Topix. Leave before these Topix atheists warp your head.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#156817 Feb 27, 2013
No all powerful compassionate god can possibly exist because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Prove it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#156818 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Prove it.
You don't prove that something doesn't exist, you examine the evidence. Since there is no evidence suggesting one exists, then it most likely does not. Your god cannot exist, evidence has demonstrated that no one lives in the sky, and the center of the Earth is actually magma not some "lake of fire." The god described in your book is nothing more than a vile monstrosity of imagination, a means to justify the wholesale slaughter of anyone different than those who follow it, and nothing more. So, since you made the claim of it's existence without any solid evidence, it is rightfully dismissed without evidence.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#156819 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"God doesn't exist" is a belief of people like you.
If you think I'm wrong, prove that you're right.
Lacking a belief is not a belief. Please do not fail at English.

Since: Dec 11

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#156820 Feb 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Well, this conversation has got us nowhere, except to show that you have a hard time admitting when something is a belief...
I'd say the main thing it's shown is that you can't distinguish your beliefs from alien abductions or house-souls.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#156821 Feb 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You don't prove that something doesn't exist, you examine the evidence. Since there is no evidence suggesting one exists, then it most likely does not. Your god cannot exist, evidence has demonstrated that no one lives in the sky, and the center of the Earth is actually magma not some "lake of fire." The god described in your book is nothing more than a vile monstrosity of imagination, a means to justify the wholesale slaughter of anyone different than those who follow it, and nothing more. So, since you made the claim of it's existence without any solid evidence, it is rightfully dismissed without evidence.
They don't really know how the interior of the earth is constructed. However, from the data they have gathered based upon other physical data and processes, they believe there is a layer of what you call magma, then a layer of liquid iron, then a core of solid iron. Really hot stuff. The mantle is thought to be a plastic like stuff that is not "solid" like the crust. Kind of a semi-liquid or something when it has someplace to go, and becomes your magma.

You could kinda call it a lake of fire if you wish.

What do you call the sky? Birds and various creatures live in it. Why can't a deity live in it and beyond? The sky is just everything above the ground, including distant galaxies.

Your head needs a reset.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#156822 Feb 27, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Dearest Horn Tooter.
I mentioned the Grand Musician the other day?
That is something I became aware of almost 30 years before I even became aware of things like this video.
The demos start a minute into the video. Turn the audio off if you want. Just watch what happens. Sound, vibrations, creating forms.
EM is the basis for all of those vibrations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =QUQj5Fh_550XX
There are other demos on the net if you want to look for them. This was just the first I ran across.
Unsupported premiss. That when we think we are creating sound, creating energy. If its beyond our hearing then it can't be detected, unless by some scientific methods which he never indicates. That sound waves can create pattern on a flat surface is understood, but to jump from that to the universe was created from sound, and then try a make a connection to a holy book is an absurd leap.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156823 Feb 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
"Bigfootists" don't, as a rule, get a say in making small minded legislation that will affect others.
Religitards may have a say, so they need to be opposed.
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Lol, "bigfootists"...

If a bigfootist was a politician or some sort of law maker, his opinion of bigfootery would influence him.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156824 Feb 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No all powerful compassionate god can possibly exist because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
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"we have evidence of avoidable suffering" is not proof or disproof of God. That only prices that God gives us free will.

Thanks!

“Ditat Deus”

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#156825 Feb 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You don't prove that something doesn't exist, you examine the evidence. Since there is no evidence suggesting one exists, then it most likely does not. Your god cannot exist, evidence has demonstrated that no one lives in the sky, and the center of the Earth is actually magma not some "lake of fire." The god described in your book is nothing more than a vile monstrosity of imagination, a means to justify the wholesale slaughter of anyone different than those who follow it, and nothing more. So, since you made the claim of it's existence without any solid evidence, it is rightfully dismissed without evidence.
I seriously doubt that God will allow Himself to be discovered by any means of science.

There is evidence that God exists, you just can't find it with a PhD.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#156826 Feb 27, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You may relate to this one better. It may even inspire you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KU84ckD1AcAXX
Ha HAHA, Too funny, the sound waves creating some kind of religious symbol. We all know how these patterns can be manipulated. Difference thicknesses on the plate on which the sands rests can create whatever pattern you desire. Haver the design you want under a very thin plate laying over the pattern. The sand waves will move the sand into what ever pattern is below the plate. Please don't tell me you think this is actually real!!! You simply can't be that gullible.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156827 Feb 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Lacking a belief is not a belief. Please do not fail at English.
Unless you have solid evidence that God doesn't exist, you only believe that He doesn't exist.

“Ditat Deus”

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#156828 Feb 27, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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I'd say the main thing it's shown is that you can't distinguish your beliefs from alien abductions or house-souls.
Neither can you. You only believe souks don't exist, you don't know it.

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