Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#156057 Feb 24, 2013
Oh your bible myth says all kinds of stupid stuff like that. It's poorly written ancient fiction and the four gospels contradict each other so much it's a joke.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Even Jesus was accused of working on the Sabbath.
There are professions that require 24/7 service. Such as Fire Depts, law enforcement, hospitals, all emergency services, National Defense, manufacturing, electrical power, natural gas supply and so forth.
Jesus gave the following example: Mathew 12:
11.“And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?”
12.“How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.”
{Do you really think that atheists help prolifirate illegal slavery?}
Yes I do, one in particular on this topix site runs a pornography business. And pornography propagates human sex trafficking, abuse to women, children and teens.
The other malformed Atheist,“Blacksheep,” doesn’t give a sh*t about slavery.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#156058 Feb 24, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Really? That is your ploy? That is your answer to your god hasn't done anything to stop slavery? Are you really that fu[king stupid?
God didn’t stop Cain from killing his brother Able.

God is not a Dictator. If he was you would already have been hung or shot. There are laws on the books in most countries against slavery.

Did God put it into the heart of Abraham Lincoln to make a bold stand against slavery?

Did God allow the North to defeat the South?

Did God allow apartheid to be abolished in South Africa?

People like you are always criticizing the bible yet you don’t say a damn thing about modern slavery. There is a reason for that, you don’t give a sh*t.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#156059 Feb 24, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Even Jesus was accused of working on the Sabbath.
There are professions that require 24/7 service. Such as Fire Depts, law enforcement, hospitals, all emergency services, National Defense, manufacturing, electrical power, natural gas supply and so forth.
Jesus gave the following example: Mathew 12:
11.“And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?”
12.“How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.”
{Do you really think that atheists help prolifirate illegal slavery?}
Yes I do, one in particular on this topix site runs a pornography business. And pornography propagates human sex trafficking, abuse to women, children and teens.
The other malformed Atheist,“Blacksheep,” doesn’t give a sh*t about slavery.
I'm homosexual. I just am. I couldn't help it, Eagle. It wasn't a choice.

Am I damned?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#156060 Feb 24, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Look! If my god hasn't stopped slavery, it doesn't really matter because you haven't stopped it either? ROTFLMAO!
I am more powerful than your god? ROTFLMAO!
Have you no shame?
At least once a day you repeat this same ole argument about slavery in the bible. Like you really have something.
We have debated it a thousand times over. Yet you just keep bringing the same ole argument over and over.

It’s called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

Man you need Dr. Phil.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#156061 Feb 24, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Well, your god never said that slavery was wrong!! If fact, your god gave laws that told us how to own slaves for as long as they lived!
Stop crying about slavery! Your god is all in favor of it.
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

Man you need Dr. Phil.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#156063 Feb 24, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Even Jesus was accused of working on the Sabbath.
There are professions that require 24/7 service. Such as Fire Depts, law enforcement, hospitals, all emergency services, National Defense, manufacturing, electrical power, natural gas supply and so forth.
Jesus gave the following example: Mathew 12:
11.“And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?”
12.“How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.”
{Do you really think that atheists help prolifirate illegal slavery?}
Yes I do, one in particular on this topix site runs a pornography business. And pornography propagates human sex trafficking, abuse to women, children and teens.
The other malformed Atheist,“Blacksheep,” doesn’t give a sh*t about slavery.
So you admit to cherry picking your morals from the OT. Ok.
Eagle12 wrote:
Yes I do, one in particular on this topix site runs a pornography business. And pornography propagates human sex trafficking, abuse to women, children and teens.
I know, you christians are despicable for supporting the porn industry.
Eagle12 wrote:
The other malformed Atheist,“Blacksheep,” doesn’t give a sh*t about slavery.
You don't know what I or any other atheist give a sh!t about. You seem to forget that your god condoned slavery. Aren't you going against your god's will by not owning any? Or are you just cherry picking again?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#156064 Feb 24, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I'm homosexual. I just am. I couldn't help it, Eagle. It wasn't a choice.
Am I damned?
You are a person who deserves to be loved. God does love you. There’s nothing wrong with having close friends you love and care about. Your needs and desires can be fulfilled in Gods love. You have a certain toughness that you project.

Most likely from the events in your life that have shaped you. But behind that force field is a person who desperately wants peace, love and security. In your inner being there remains a hunger that you haven’t been able to fulfill.

Many times in your life you have been hurt. You’re tired of being hurt. So you go on sometimes strong and other times weak. Often you are in a survival mode.

Are you damned? Certainly not, God can and will save you. You are far from being damned.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#156065 Feb 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Pornography Leads to Human Trafficking
by CitizenLink Staff
An interview with Patrick Trueman, former head of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the U.S. Justice Department

Citizen magazine conducted this interview in May 2008.

Citizen: Please elaborate on your congressional testimony when you stated that pornography is what fuels the demand for illicit sex. How does that work?

Trueman: One of the most vivid memories in my 20-some years of battling pornography and sexual exploitation is a trip I made to New York City with the former head of the Paul and Lisa program, which works to get child prostitutes off the streets in New York and other cities. It was 2 a.m. We were in the meat market section of New York, which, of course, was closed then. But in a two-block area there was a traffic jam of primarily college kids – and others as well, adults, but a lot of them were college kids – driving into this two-block area to have time with child prostitutes and some young adult prostitutes. These were probably 15 to 21, 22.

You could hardly move. It was like the busiest part of Manhattan in rush hour. The SUV in front of me had a group of college kids who pulled this girl in from the back of the SUV, opened up the back and pulled her in so all these guys could have sex. On each side of you as you would drive down the street there was car after car with young men having sex with these young prostitutes, many of whom are children. There was a van parked there with one young man having sex, with all his college buddies standing outside the van, cheering him on.

Now, these aren’t kids who just happened to be in the meat market section of Manhattan at 2 a.m. These are kids who spend their time on Internet pornography, buying magazines with pornography, looking at cable television pornography. These people are consumed with pornography, and such people very quickly reach the point where they want the real thing – i.e., sex. So, they’ll have sex with a prostitute or anyone else who’s available. And it says a lot about our college culture, and this was 10 years ago. You have to believe it’s gotten worse today, and those kids are now 28 to 30 years old – they’re out in the work place, broken marriages, those who are married might be diseased from the prostitutes, they’re having children.

Citizen: The other side has successfully repositioned porn as a free-speech issue with legal protections. Is there any way to reawaken Christian conservatives who have gone to sleep on this issue?

Trueman: The dominant issue for Christians over the last few years has been the defense of marriage, and that’s understandable, but at the same time there’s probably been far, far more damage to the fabric of our culture by pornography and sexual exploitation of women and children, and there has been only a relatively small amount of activity against pornography and little money to battle it.

Citizen: Do you think there’s some battle fatigue and disappointment on this issue that’s set in?

Trueman: Well, there’s some of that going on. I remember early on in the [George W.] Bush administration when I was surprised to find out that [Attorney General John Ashcroft] was not the least bit interested in fighting pornography. That was evident by his actions. We couldn’t motivate Christian leaders to battle him on that. Now, fortunately Citizen magazine ran a cover story on his failure to prosecute. It was a heck of an article. But there wasn’t much else, and when I would talk to Christian leaders, they’d exhibit surprise. They’d say,‘Oh, he’s a brother in the Lord. How can that be?’

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#156066 Feb 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
You think there were websites 2000 years ago for Paul to own? No he just ordered a run away slave to rerun to his life of slavery. Something you approve of.
Human trafficking in porn? Daffy those girls compete for those spots! They hire agents and managers to get them a break into the business.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaha!
Hey who was the middle eastern man in your Dad's room? Stop DUCKing the question DAFFY!
<quoted text>
Pornography Leads to Human Trafficking
by CitizenLink Staff
An interview with Patrick Trueman, former head of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the U.S. Justice Department
Citizen magazine conducted this interview in May 2008.

Citizen: Have you seen the shocking figure that between 40 to 80 percent of consumers of child porn go on to molest a child?

Trueman: Well, that’s old news, because we’ve always known that. Now, think about this – I left in ’93, and we were very vigorous on child pornography, and we’d get criticism from judges and from others who would say,‘Why are you demanding such a high sentence for this guy? He’s only a collector. There’s no evidence that he’s molested.’ And our response was,‘There’s no such thing as a collector who doesn’t molest.’

So, when you hear figures of 40 to 60, that’s because they’re not – those are inaccurate figures. It’s 100 percent. If they’re collecting child pornography now and they haven’t molested, they’re a new collector. People who are addicted to child pornography are molesters. You can talk to the FBI, the child exploitation people, the Postal Inspection service – the Customs Service used to have a terrific band of men doing this all around the country – they all will tell you the same: Collectors of child pornography are molesters of children.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#156067 Feb 24, 2013
madscot wrote:
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So you admit to cherry picking your morals from the OT. Ok.
<quoted text>
I know, you christians are despicable for supporting the porn industry.
<quoted text>
You don't know what I or any other atheist give a sh!t about. You seem to forget that your god condoned slavery. Aren't you going against your god's will by not owning any? Or are you just cherry picking again?
I have never owned a slave. Never treated anyone like a slave. I grew up in a time civil rights movement was taking hold in the 60’s. As a child I didn’t fully understand what was going on.

As I grew older I began to see discrimination against blacks and whites as well. You see bigotry is not unique to one class of people.

I’m not going to lie to you. There are some Christian men addicted to porn. Why lie about it. It’s a highly addictive product. It’s very damaging to society as a whole. But not only are Christians addicted but people from every walk of life including Atheist.

The selective cherry picking goes on mostly on your side of things. At least once a day “Blacksheep” post about slavery in the bible. Never taking up the cause of modern slavery. That’s a bit hypocritical in my view. And yes I do know he doesn’t give a sh*t about slavery.

And this OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)
on his part repeats over and over and over.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#156068 Feb 24, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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You are a person who deserves to be loved. God does love you. There’s nothing wrong with having close friends you love and care about. Your needs and desires can be fulfilled in Gods love. You have a certain toughness that you project.
Most likely from the events in your life that have shaped you. But behind that force field is a person who desperately wants peace, love and security. In your inner being there remains a hunger that you haven’t been able to fulfill.
Many times in your life you have been hurt. You’re tired of being hurt. So you go on sometimes strong and other times weak. Often you are in a survival mode.
Are you damned? Certainly not, God can and will save you. You are far from being damned.
What is the reward?

I already have my life. Is there something else?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#156069 Feb 24, 2013
Works of fiction don't do anything other than entertain. Humanity created your God. They did this for when they felt alone, sad, or felt awestruck and wonder at what they saw but didn't have the answers to explain it away.

Humanity is now growing up and it is time to put away childish things.
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
God didn’t stop Cain from killing his brother Able.
God is not a Dictator. If he was you would already have been hung or shot. There are laws on the books in most countries against slavery.
Did God put it into the heart of Abraham Lincoln to make a bold stand against slavery?
Did God allow the North to defeat the South?
Did God allow apartheid to be abolished in South Africa?
People like you are always criticizing the bible yet you don’t say a damn thing about modern slavery. There is a reason for that, you don’t give a sh*t.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#156070 Feb 24, 2013
Linkless spam from George W. Bush's people? Ignored and rightfully so.
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Pornography Leads to Human Trafficking

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#156071 Feb 24, 2013
More linkless soam that you made up or edited. Ignored and rightfully so. Time to grow up Daffy.

Awesome song to get the day going!



Now that is real music!:)
Eagle12 wrote:
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Pornography Leads to Human Trafficking

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#156072 Feb 24, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
I have never owned a slave. Never treated anyone like a slave.
Good for you. Too bad your God commanded people to take others as slaves. At least you're more moral than the deity you worship.
Eagle12 wrote:
I’m not going to lie to you. There are some Christian men addicted to porn. Why lie about it. It’s a highly addictive product. It’s very damaging to society as a whole. But not only are Christians addicted but people from every walk of life including Atheist.
Yes, and every walk of life works together to eliminate slavery in all forms.
Eagle12 wrote:
The selective cherry picking goes on mostly on your side of things.
Really? So why don't you fight as hard against coveting as you say you do against slavery? Slavery isn't even in the big ten like coveting is.
Eagle12 wrote:
Never taking up the cause of modern slavery. That’s a bit hypocritical in my view. And yes I do know he doesn’t give a sh*t about slavery.
Yes, and everyday we hear christians complaining that gays getting the right to marry goes against God. I mean, here you are fighting against something your God condones yet, you think gay marriage is an abomonation.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#156073 Feb 24, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Good for you. Too bad your God commanded people to take others as slaves. At least you're more moral than the deity you worship.
<quoted text>
Yes, and every walk of life works together to eliminate slavery in all forms.
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Really? So why don't you fight as hard against coveting as you say you do against slavery? Slavery isn't even in the big ten like coveting is.
<quoted text>
Yes, and everyday we hear christians complaining that gays getting the right to marry goes against God. I mean, here you are fighting against something your God condones yet, you think gay marriage is an abomonation.
The same sex marriage battle is almost over. It's a downhill slide. Fundies will keep talking about it and Pat Robertson will several strokes but the end is in sight.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#156074 Feb 24, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>You are a person who deserves to be loved. God does love you. ThereÂ’s nothing wrong with having close friends you love and care about. Your needs and desires can be fulfilled in Gods love. You have a certain toughness that you project.

Most likely from the events in your life that have shaped you. But behind that force field is a person who desperately wants peace, love and security. In your inner being there remains a hunger that you havenÂ’t been able to fulfill.

Many times in your life you have been hurt. YouÂ’re tired of being hurt. So you go on sometimes strong and other times weak. Often you are in a survival mode.

Are you damned? Certainly not, God can and will save you. You are far from being damned.
As long as she renounces homosexuality, right?

Otherwise, she's going to hell, right?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#156075 Feb 24, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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As long as she renounces homosexuality, right?
Otherwise, she's going to hell, right?
Been there.

When I stand in front of the saviour and he asks me: "Are you worthy of being in Heaven?"

I'll say, "I'm just here for your leg."

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#156076 Feb 24, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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The same sex marriage battle is almost over. It's a downhill slide. Fundies will keep talking about it and Pat Robertson will several strokes but the end is in sight.
Perhaps but the fundies are definitely going to fight to the last man/woman.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#156077 Feb 24, 2013
madscot wrote:
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Perhaps but the fundies are definitely going to fight to the last man/woman.
Sometimes you have to use your hand to tell the difference.

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