Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#155983 Feb 23, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
So was your comment.

Even so, there is a difference between your father and a deity one. Your daddy couldn't pull you back out and make you as good as new. Good thing he knew his limits, eh?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#155984 Feb 23, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
Your father can't give you heaven either. Go to the nearest Church of Christ and get right with God and you will never have to worry about a lake of fire.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155985 Feb 23, 2013
:)
CunningLinguist wrote:
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"Moral indignation is in most cases 2% moral, 48% indignation and 50% envy."
~VITTORIO DE SICA

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155986 Feb 23, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Your father can't give you heaven either. Go to the nearest Church of Christ and get right with God and you will never have to worry about a lake of fire.
Iím not Church of Christ but I can tell you they have some of the best singers and quartets in the world.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#155987 Feb 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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Obviously, the Phantom of the Opera had the wrong address.
Glad he did. He was blocking the light.

Such things can be attempted to be explained as the same process of a dream or such. But these things happen to people quite often. It may be as simple as a temporary link in the division of here and elsewhere triggers a physical response in us. Dreams or things like that.

What, about 4% of the universe is normal matter? Then you have this alleged dark matter and dark energy? Who knows what lurks in those dark corners. Corners, hell. We are in the corners.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#155988 Feb 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Befoef in the paranormal. Something that has always existed and will never go away.
Probably most us on this forum alone have had one or more experiences in life that were on the odd side. Of course, we are trained to shut them out, dismiss them, or seeks physical reasons for them. The SOP for them when you can't find a physical reason for them is to then just dismiss it. Then you have those of that get pulled down that trail in pursuit of what happened. This is how the belief in UFOs, ghosts, and trumpet playing atheists tapping into a vast resource of energy come about.
But they do happen. The physics stuff I have been presenting can explain the link that this very myopic following a single trail modern physics method can't. This ethereal link that has to exist by their own physics, yet they ignore it because they can't touch it. It isn't the physicist though that pronounce the it doesn't exist unless we write a paper on it, it is idiots like so many Topix atheists. A real scientist keeps an open mind, but forces themselves to follow a logic in investigating. Topix atheist going flying off into space with condensed versions of what science provides. They are on the wacko side.
But anyhow, I've had a few a long time ago. They just got filed away and looked at later from a more developed perspective.
Had one that was really interesting almost 30 years ago. I was sitting on my couch reading a manual about the OS/2 operating system. Very relaxed. Just reading. Across the coffee table was an armchair with a table next to it immediately on its left, and the table lamp on. There was a background light in front of me while I looked down reading this book. The chair was quite empty, as was the table except for the lamp.
After a while I looked up from the book and forward the way we do when we read something and kind of digest it. Just kind of glancing up without focusing. Except something wasn't right. Part of the lamp's light was blocked. A total blackness was in front on the side toward the chair partially blocking it.
Huh?
I looked to the chair, and then a tall black form stood up, threw a cape or something over its left shoulder, then turned and disappeared. Very theatrical, like some old stage actor from the turn of the century. Just a dark opaque human figure that appears to have been sitting there watching me until I noticed it, then getting up and make a grand exit. It was very much real.
I hollered to the woman I was living with and told her about it. She said it was nothing unusual. She had seen many odd things there, including dancing lights on the floor. This was about two blocks away from a famous spiritualist camp that had been there for quite a while.
Was an interesting experience.
The only thing that fascinates the hell out of me are dreams. I wish we had the technology to record them...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155989 Feb 23, 2013
Poe
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> First of all the catholic church is a false religion, actually it's the biggest deceiver of mankind, followed by the Muslims faith. I believe the Church of Christ is the true church of the bible and the only church teaching and preaching the true word of God and worshipping in spirit and in truth. God said it's better to marry than burn, this is one of the many problems caused by a false religion like the catholic church, if men were allowed to marry there wouldn't of been such a problem with sexual abuse. The catholic church is riddled with all kinds of problems, and for a very good reason, it's a false religion. The Church of Christ was established on 33 A.D. and appox. 300 years later some of the elders of the Church of Christ decided to branch off because of their own selfish desires, and that's how the catholic church came to be. They have added and taken away from the bible and have deceived more people than any other false religion.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155990 Feb 23, 2013
A ward you know well eh brain damage?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your world is very, very small.
It is like a psychiatric ward.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#155991 Feb 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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I'm an atheist like yourself, but when I read drivel like your comment on "anti-soul" energy, I immediately switch to smartass mode. I've read your prior posts and concluded that you were levelheaded and rational, something sorely needed on this thread, then suddenly you start this sophomoric rant about untapped energy that only atheists and freethinkers have access to. Really? Very disappointing.
Just responding in kind to those who vehemently claim knowledge of supernatural events and mystical powers. Shoe on the other foot kind of thing.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155992 Feb 23, 2013
It's ok I stumped you and you threw a temper tantrum. I accept your surrender half wit.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You ain't worth answering, you filthy piece of shit.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155993 Feb 23, 2013
I don't produce or direct. I own sites that post free pics and videos.

Reading comprehension not your strong point I see.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So........ You're gonna be out of a job soon? Lettin a broad take your place?!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155994 Feb 23, 2013
Lmfao! So childish!! I have no proof or evidence but it's my delusion and I like it! Wah!

Bwahahahahahaha! So childish!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because that is my belief and there's no evidence that they DON'T exist.
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Who? Who "wastes their lives in misery"??
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If there is no soul then there's nothing to lose by believing there is one.
If there is a soul, there's a lot to lose by believing there isn't one.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155995 Feb 23, 2013
What's the evidence against house souls?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There is no evidence AGAINST them.
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There is evidence AGAINST those.
Do pay attention. You have a belief. You refuse to admit it. Why?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155996 Feb 23, 2013
Long winded Dave word salad. Brain damage is sad ya?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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That was quite amusing.
I have a few of those T-shirts in my drawer.
Oh, my young friend with a not fully developed appreciation of music, this old hulk you see has sailed the calm and stormy seas, setting sail and reaching many ports. It has survived broadsides and pirates. It has also been caught in the irons and struggled to get under away. It has passed perilously close to the rocks. It has been caught in the stills, baking in the sun, the varnish peeling, the sails dry rotted away, and ship's stores depleted. It has spent the last many years drifting, following the currents and the breeze, gazing upon what passes in view. Reflecting on what it has seen in the past in its travels and the false notions that led it into those stills or a bad tack. It can no longer struggle against tides and winds. It just waits and enjoys the view until the sea claims it.
Oh, my young sprig, this old persimmon has weathered storms, drought, extreme heat, and the bugs. It has lived its life. It has experienced just about all a persimmon can experience. It is ripe, maybe a little overripe, and ready to drop to the ground to start a new life, or to sustain another one. The sun, wind, rain, and the bugs, no longer bother it. You may see it fall past you as you grow. If you survive the sun, wind, and the bugs.
I'm not on here to save your soul, or to gain knowledge that won't do no good in this manifestation. This is just passing time.
You ain't been no place I ain't been. You should listen to you elders more, laddybuck.
Or something like that.
Reminds me of a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RFKdXV63_CcXX

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155997 Feb 23, 2013
Burden of proof is on the person making the assertion half wit.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I never said that, you did.
Can you categorically prove that a soul does not exist, beyound all reasonable doubt?
BTW I hear the flat earth society is looking for new members. Sounds like you'd fit the bill.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#155998 Feb 23, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Just responding in kind to those who vehemently claim knowledge of supernatural events and mystical powers. Shoe on the other foot kind of thing.
Dammit! I took it literally, not as parody. Please accept my apology. Excuse me while I wipe the egg from my face...
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#155999 Feb 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Very nice memories.
All totally meaningless when you can't remember them anymore.
I do wax poetic a lot. Comes from observing life and seeing the music and prose that exists in it. Hard to do that when you toot your horn so much.
So, you think what you have done here will bear fruit for eternity, surviving the winds of universal and man made changes? Just what do think mankind will blossom into?
Nothing is eternal, another one of your preconceived notions, and one with not a shred of evidence. Our star along with our planet and solar system will cease to exist.

I will leave behind knowledge that I have planted into the minds of hundreds. I will live on in my music, just as any other composer has done. A hundred years from now it is entirely possible that recordings I have made, and music that I have composed with be listened to and played. That is what I will leave behind, can you say the same?

I believe mankind will see the end of organized religion. As science answers more and more questions that were relegated to Godly answers, God will become an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance until a belief in mythical being will be pointless. Of course there will always be "hangers on" people too weak to navigate through life without a big daddy in the sky to hold their hands and comfort them. A thousand years from now we may well have cheated death, and have the ability to live for as long as we care to. No need for the fear of death, which is what drives most religions. We will need to migrate to the stars as our planet is eventually doomed. Without this migration our species will end.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#156000 Feb 23, 2013
So you would prefer we ignore God commanded slavery? How about when Paul commanded a slave return to his master.
Eagle12 wrote:
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A few Atheist bring up biblical slavery all the time. Never say a word about ongoing slavery. The fact is they donít give a damn about slavery. If they did they would be an advocate against it, but their not.
Iím the one that has to remind people that slavery is ongoing issue even today in nearly every country in the world. Lackadaisical attitudes works for slavery and not against it.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#156001 Feb 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
There is no evidence to back up your claim, that makes it your belief - not fact.
On another thread, you posted this, RiversideRedneck.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/topstor...
In that post you made, you said the story was faked by atheists.

However, I searched the article you linked to, and it doesn't mention atheists at all. I pointed this out in a response.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/topstor...

In that post you made, you said the story was faked by atheists.

It wasn't. The report was actually faked by a member of Judaism, and several Christian site promoted it, too. I discovered that, and posted this http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR... in order to correct what I'd found earlier.

You said this.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I found this one, that exposes a fake atheist report that African Christians in Nigeria burned these people.
Why would you say that. It's a very specific statement.

Could you supply the link where > you < read that it "exposes a fake atheist report" ?

RiversideRedneck?

Did you lie?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#156002 Feb 23, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Just responding in kind to those who vehemently claim knowledge of supernatural events and mystical powers. Shoe on the other foot kind of thing.
Makes you look kinda stupid.

Just saying.

Tap into that reservoir,eh?

Let me guess, you are a New Age atheist guru? Listen to you and you will lead everyone to Nirvana. Just leave your old beliefs at the door.

Do you wear robes and all of that?

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