Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#155979 Feb 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Befoef in the paranormal. Something that has always existed and will never go away.
Probably most us on this forum alone have had one or more experiences in life that were on the odd side. Of course, we are trained to shut them out, dismiss them, or seeks physical reasons for them. The SOP for them when you can't find a physical reason for them is to then just dismiss it. Then you have those of that get pulled down that trail in pursuit of what happened. This is how the belief in UFOs, ghosts, and trumpet playing atheists tapping into a vast resource of energy come about.
But they do happen. The physics stuff I have been presenting can explain the link that this very myopic following a single trail modern physics method can't. This ethereal link that has to exist by their own physics, yet they ignore it because they can't touch it. It isn't the physicist though that pronounce the it doesn't exist unless we write a paper on it, it is idiots like so many Topix atheists. A real scientist keeps an open mind, but forces themselves to follow a logic in investigating. Topix atheist going flying off into space with condensed versions of what science provides. They are on the wacko side.
But anyhow, I've had a few a long time ago. They just got filed away and looked at later from a more developed perspective.
Had one that was really interesting almost 30 years ago. I was sitting on my couch reading a manual about the OS/2 operating system. Very relaxed. Just reading. Across the coffee table was an armchair with a table next to it immediately on its left, and the table lamp on. There was a background light in front of me while I looked down reading this book. The chair was quite empty, as was the table except for the lamp.
After a while I looked up from the book and forward the way we do when we read something and kind of digest it. Just kind of glancing up without focusing. Except something wasn't right. Part of the lamp's light was blocked. A total blackness was in front on the side toward the chair partially blocking it.
Huh?
I looked to the chair, and then a tall black form stood up, threw a cape or something over its left shoulder, then turned and disappeared. Very theatrical, like some old stage actor from the turn of the century. Just a dark opaque human figure that appears to have been sitting there watching me until I noticed it, then getting up and make a grand exit. It was very much real.
I hollered to the woman I was living with and told her about it. She said it was nothing unusual. She had seen many odd things there, including dancing lights on the floor. This was about two blocks away from a famous spiritualist camp that had been there for quite a while.
Was an interesting experience.
Obviously, the Phantom of the Opera had the wrong address.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155980 Feb 23, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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What's wrong with you?
If you like a good movie with a historical flair. Rent “Argo,” with Ben Affleck,(2012). You will know what it means when I say,“Argo……………”

It’s a little painful to watch the first 10 or 15 minutes. But the beginning is necessary to set the plot. It’s a 4 star moving and there’s not too many of those these days.

Enjoy.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#155981 Feb 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Befoef in the paranormal. Something that has always existed and will never go away.

Was an interesting experience.
Superstitious nonsense Dave , you can claim anything.
Queen Mary is my pet ghost, she is a succubus.
Now is that paranormal enough for you?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155982 Feb 23, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
My father never threw me into a lake of fire but I’ll be damned if I didn’t end up in one a few times. I hate fire.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#155983 Feb 23, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
So was your comment.

Even so, there is a difference between your father and a deity one. Your daddy couldn't pull you back out and make you as good as new. Good thing he knew his limits, eh?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#155984 Feb 23, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
Your father can't give you heaven either. Go to the nearest Church of Christ and get right with God and you will never have to worry about a lake of fire.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155985 Feb 23, 2013
:)
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
"Moral indignation is in most cases 2% moral, 48% indignation and 50% envy."
~VITTORIO DE SICA

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155986 Feb 23, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Your father can't give you heaven either. Go to the nearest Church of Christ and get right with God and you will never have to worry about a lake of fire.
I’m not Church of Christ but I can tell you they have some of the best singers and quartets in the world.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#155987 Feb 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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Obviously, the Phantom of the Opera had the wrong address.
Glad he did. He was blocking the light.

Such things can be attempted to be explained as the same process of a dream or such. But these things happen to people quite often. It may be as simple as a temporary link in the division of here and elsewhere triggers a physical response in us. Dreams or things like that.

What, about 4% of the universe is normal matter? Then you have this alleged dark matter and dark energy? Who knows what lurks in those dark corners. Corners, hell. We are in the corners.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#155988 Feb 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Befoef in the paranormal. Something that has always existed and will never go away.
Probably most us on this forum alone have had one or more experiences in life that were on the odd side. Of course, we are trained to shut them out, dismiss them, or seeks physical reasons for them. The SOP for them when you can't find a physical reason for them is to then just dismiss it. Then you have those of that get pulled down that trail in pursuit of what happened. This is how the belief in UFOs, ghosts, and trumpet playing atheists tapping into a vast resource of energy come about.
But they do happen. The physics stuff I have been presenting can explain the link that this very myopic following a single trail modern physics method can't. This ethereal link that has to exist by their own physics, yet they ignore it because they can't touch it. It isn't the physicist though that pronounce the it doesn't exist unless we write a paper on it, it is idiots like so many Topix atheists. A real scientist keeps an open mind, but forces themselves to follow a logic in investigating. Topix atheist going flying off into space with condensed versions of what science provides. They are on the wacko side.
But anyhow, I've had a few a long time ago. They just got filed away and looked at later from a more developed perspective.
Had one that was really interesting almost 30 years ago. I was sitting on my couch reading a manual about the OS/2 operating system. Very relaxed. Just reading. Across the coffee table was an armchair with a table next to it immediately on its left, and the table lamp on. There was a background light in front of me while I looked down reading this book. The chair was quite empty, as was the table except for the lamp.
After a while I looked up from the book and forward the way we do when we read something and kind of digest it. Just kind of glancing up without focusing. Except something wasn't right. Part of the lamp's light was blocked. A total blackness was in front on the side toward the chair partially blocking it.
Huh?
I looked to the chair, and then a tall black form stood up, threw a cape or something over its left shoulder, then turned and disappeared. Very theatrical, like some old stage actor from the turn of the century. Just a dark opaque human figure that appears to have been sitting there watching me until I noticed it, then getting up and make a grand exit. It was very much real.
I hollered to the woman I was living with and told her about it. She said it was nothing unusual. She had seen many odd things there, including dancing lights on the floor. This was about two blocks away from a famous spiritualist camp that had been there for quite a while.
Was an interesting experience.
The only thing that fascinates the hell out of me are dreams. I wish we had the technology to record them...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155989 Feb 23, 2013
Poe
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> First of all the catholic church is a false religion, actually it's the biggest deceiver of mankind, followed by the Muslims faith. I believe the Church of Christ is the true church of the bible and the only church teaching and preaching the true word of God and worshipping in spirit and in truth. God said it's better to marry than burn, this is one of the many problems caused by a false religion like the catholic church, if men were allowed to marry there wouldn't of been such a problem with sexual abuse. The catholic church is riddled with all kinds of problems, and for a very good reason, it's a false religion. The Church of Christ was established on 33 A.D. and appox. 300 years later some of the elders of the Church of Christ decided to branch off because of their own selfish desires, and that's how the catholic church came to be. They have added and taken away from the bible and have deceived more people than any other false religion.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155990 Feb 23, 2013
A ward you know well eh brain damage?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your world is very, very small.
It is like a psychiatric ward.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#155991 Feb 23, 2013
Anon wrote:
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I'm an atheist like yourself, but when I read drivel like your comment on "anti-soul" energy, I immediately switch to smartass mode. I've read your prior posts and concluded that you were levelheaded and rational, something sorely needed on this thread, then suddenly you start this sophomoric rant about untapped energy that only atheists and freethinkers have access to. Really? Very disappointing.
Just responding in kind to those who vehemently claim knowledge of supernatural events and mystical powers. Shoe on the other foot kind of thing.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155992 Feb 23, 2013
It's ok I stumped you and you threw a temper tantrum. I accept your surrender half wit.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You ain't worth answering, you filthy piece of shit.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155993 Feb 23, 2013
I don't produce or direct. I own sites that post free pics and videos.

Reading comprehension not your strong point I see.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So........ You're gonna be out of a job soon? Lettin a broad take your place?!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155994 Feb 23, 2013
Lmfao! So childish!! I have no proof or evidence but it's my delusion and I like it! Wah!

Bwahahahahahaha! So childish!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because that is my belief and there's no evidence that they DON'T exist.
<quoted text>
Who? Who "wastes their lives in misery"??
<quoted text>
If there is no soul then there's nothing to lose by believing there is one.
If there is a soul, there's a lot to lose by believing there isn't one.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155995 Feb 23, 2013
What's the evidence against house souls?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There is no evidence AGAINST them.
<quoted text>
There is evidence AGAINST those.
Do pay attention. You have a belief. You refuse to admit it. Why?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155996 Feb 23, 2013
Long winded Dave word salad. Brain damage is sad ya?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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That was quite amusing.
I have a few of those T-shirts in my drawer.
Oh, my young friend with a not fully developed appreciation of music, this old hulk you see has sailed the calm and stormy seas, setting sail and reaching many ports. It has survived broadsides and pirates. It has also been caught in the irons and struggled to get under away. It has passed perilously close to the rocks. It has been caught in the stills, baking in the sun, the varnish peeling, the sails dry rotted away, and ship's stores depleted. It has spent the last many years drifting, following the currents and the breeze, gazing upon what passes in view. Reflecting on what it has seen in the past in its travels and the false notions that led it into those stills or a bad tack. It can no longer struggle against tides and winds. It just waits and enjoys the view until the sea claims it.
Oh, my young sprig, this old persimmon has weathered storms, drought, extreme heat, and the bugs. It has lived its life. It has experienced just about all a persimmon can experience. It is ripe, maybe a little overripe, and ready to drop to the ground to start a new life, or to sustain another one. The sun, wind, rain, and the bugs, no longer bother it. You may see it fall past you as you grow. If you survive the sun, wind, and the bugs.
I'm not on here to save your soul, or to gain knowledge that won't do no good in this manifestation. This is just passing time.
You ain't been no place I ain't been. You should listen to you elders more, laddybuck.
Or something like that.
Reminds me of a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RFKdXV63_CcXX

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#155997 Feb 23, 2013
Burden of proof is on the person making the assertion half wit.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I never said that, you did.
Can you categorically prove that a soul does not exist, beyound all reasonable doubt?
BTW I hear the flat earth society is looking for new members. Sounds like you'd fit the bill.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#155998 Feb 23, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Just responding in kind to those who vehemently claim knowledge of supernatural events and mystical powers. Shoe on the other foot kind of thing.
Dammit! I took it literally, not as parody. Please accept my apology. Excuse me while I wipe the egg from my face...

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