Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Feb 21, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Getting to sensitive to drink coffee? Oh no it's to hot!
Lmfao!
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I went to Starbuck's and the barista said "careful, I accidentally made it really hot" ... my reply was "it is a HOT latte, I expect no less" with a smile. She got a kick out of it. If it's less than 100 degrees, I would complain about it, no way I'm drinking cold java.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
http://www.space.com/11506-space-weather-suns...

Nice description of the mechanics. Is a little weak on the actual effects from a really good zap. Things like pole shifts, axial tilt, a major league rearrangement of the way things were. You could even miss work the next day. You might not want to go to the beach, though.

All in how things interact. This is a lesson how abiogenesis could have began. Right connections at the right time.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
Anon wrote:
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Dave, I get to the same place you're talking about when I listen to Coltrane, Parker, Mingus, Monk, Sun Ra, etc. I don't need video enhancement, as a good two channel stereo system (turntable, tube amp., tube preamp) creates an almost holographic soundstage that, unfortunately, most people have never experienced. The doob is optional...
It's easier to post youtube. I prefer pure sound, too. Only have one good ear to hear it, but I appreciate it.

“I see quantum effects”

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<quoted text>Dave, I get to the same place you're talking about when I listen to Coltrane, Parker, Mingus, Monk, Sun Ra, etc. I don't need video enhancement, as a good two channel stereo system (turntable, tube amp., tube preamp) creates an almost holographic soundstage that, unfortunately, most people have never experienced. The doob is optional...
The doob is mandatory.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
No eagle was puking out apologetic talking points and you as predicted loved them so much you jumped in.

Hmmmm are Dave and Eagle socks?
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The stupid is taking that breathing into a lump of clay as literal, and then trying to pass it off as intellectual thought. Like you just did.
Your limited mentality again limits your perspective to some being in a material form breathing into a lump of wet dirt. You can't get past the possibility this deity being somewhat larger than you can see.
Put your lump of clay in a closed container. Your lump has cavities in it, right? In your case, a really large on above your shoulders.
Pressurize the container. What happens? Some of that pressure finds its way into those cavities. Chemical processes can then be activated.
You need to exhale from that cranial cavity you have and get let some fresh air back in.
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The doob is mandatory.
I stand corrected, sir...

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Feb 21, 2013
 
No free thinking is when you look at available evidence and come to your own conclusion regardless to what the majority thinks.

Free thinkers can be wrong or right when they do this.

Clearly you are a Fox News reject and not a free thinker.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Freethought holds that individuals should not accept ideas proposed as truth without recourse to knowledge and reason.
Freethinkers thought the steady state model was accurate.
Freethinkers thought insects were borne of rotting food.
Freethinkers thought the eath was flat.
Freethinkers thought the Milky Way was the universe.
Freethinkers thought the universe is infinite, then finite, then infinite.
Ad nauseum
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Feb 21, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Yes, anyone believing is anything for NO good reason is WRONG!!! Our beliefs inform our actions, believing in anything without evidence or for NO reason is not only WRONG, its dangerous."
So, I take it that is what you believe?
I believe myself and others may believe you have a wrong perspective on which you are basing your beliefs that you believe in so strongly, which is in essence believing without good evidence as your belief that believing in anything can be based upon no good reason is really beyond logic. Everyone has a reason to justify their belief to themselves.
Or something like that. I believe.
Oh, Enigma is another of my favorites. Do you believe my belief Michael Cretu is good is illusional? Feel the music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oxpcyJr_jwoXX
Don't be a babbling idiot, it has nothing to do with PERSPECTIVE. It has to do with evidence and things that do or do not take place in reality. What methodology do you use to determine if something is true or not?

If I believe that fairies live in my garden and that they protect me from harm I have an unsupported belief. Its dangerous because it gives me a false sense of security. I believe in those fairies because it makes me "feel good." Because it makes you "feel good" is NOT a good reason to believe, You may justify this belief to yourself but that does not make it a rational belief. It makes it a belief based on complete and utter lack of information, other than it makes you "feel good." Believe what you want but be prepared for people to tell you your belief is WRONG!!!

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Feb 21, 2013
 
Meltdown
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I'm going to do some role playing here. I'm going to play act as a Topix atheist.
Hell, let me get properly prepared. Excuse me while I walk out to the concrete block fence.
THUMP!!!!!!
Uh, duh. Gee, that kinda hurted.
What was i doing? Oh, yeah.
Where is that low lifing blacklagoon?
Blackie, how dare you try to impose your values and definitions of what is true, fact, good, righteous, and all of that stuff on me. I have no belief in your music. It is something only goatherders and militaristic minds could find to be "truth". You fundie jazzturd. Believing in an imaginary skycooldaddy of music. A mindless boob trained to believe in such a thing. A high priest of bullshit just trying to sell some records.
Everyone was born a music atheist.
In segments of 4000 characters or less, take as many sections of them as you need, explain to us just why we should follow your illusionary path to musical nirvana.
Where is the proof of your false god?
Or something like that.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
EM is a totally natural process Dave. No god needed whatsoever.
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http://www.weather.com/news/sc ience/massive-sunspot-forms-20 130220
Pay no attention. It is only EM. Totally insignificant.
Ignore the fact it is growing so rapidly, which kinda means it is very energetic. Just mass in a higher acceleration rate. Ignorable perturbation.
Gravity is the basis of your life and existence. And virtual particles. Ask Polymath.
However, until it decides what it wants to do, keep track so you can schedule phone calls and avoid various other minor inconveniences.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/02/21/b...

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/20/housto...

This might be the big one coming. Good common sense is starting to appear.

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Anon wrote:
<quoted text>I stand corrected, sir...
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“I see quantum effects”

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Feb 21, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>No free thinking is when you look at available evidence and come to your own conclusion regardless to what the majority thinks.

Free thinkers can be wrong or right when they do this.

Clearly you are a Fox News reject and not a free thinker.
Non freethinkers know goddidit.
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Feb 21, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It's easier to post youtube. I prefer pure sound, too. Only have one good ear to hear it, but I appreciate it.
I didn't realize you were deaf in one ear. I can't imagine what that must be like. Sorry to hear that, Dave. No stupid pun intended.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be a babbling idiot, it has nothing to do with PERSPECTIVE. It has to do with evidence and things that do or do not take place in reality. What methodology do you use to determine if something is true or not?
If I believe that fairies live in my garden and that they protect me from harm I have an unsupported belief. Its dangerous because it gives me a false sense of security. I believe in those fairies because it makes me "feel good." Because it makes you "feel good" is NOT a good reason to believe, You may justify this belief to yourself but that does not make it a rational belief. It makes it a belief based on complete and utter lack of information, other than it makes you "feel good." Believe what you want but be prepared for people to tell you your belief is WRONG!!!
It is all in perspective.

The fairies could still be there protecting you even if you don't believe in them.

One way to test is to de-fairyfy the place. Then if something bad happens to you, you will have some real evidence to support your claim they don't exist.

Want me to tell you how to de-fairyfy it? It will take some serious commitment on your part. I will try to find some less bloodless way to do it, though. Never had to de-fairyfy before. This may take some thinking.

I will advise you that when you make changes on a level such as that there is no telling from your perspective on what will happen. Nature abhors a vacuum on all levels. She very much strives to balance things out. You just don't know what will fill that void. It is usually best to just deal with what you know.
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Feb 21, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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The doob is mandatory.
Hey, are you back on your quit or still smoking? I caved (for the fiftieth time) last week. I've reached the conclusion that the only way I'll permanently quit is to have my arms removed. Even then, I'll probably pick a butt from the curb with my mouth and ask a passerby for a light. What the hell is with these things?

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Feb 21, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
No eagle was puking out apologetic talking points and you as predicted loved them so much you jumped in.
Hmmmm are Dave and Eagle socks?
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It is possible, the religious nuts do seem to think that popularity makes something more real than facts.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
The_Box wrote:
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I didn't say the first pixel, I said the first BLUE pixel in the transition from red to blue.
Same answer, then. It'd be the first blue pixel the disgner added in....

Why is that difficult to understand?

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Feb 21, 2013
 
Nature can be so weird and fickle.

You can be sitting out on your deck in the sunshine drinking a beer while a storm 20 miles away could be building up a positive charge and it could be a handful of molecules between you and it determining if you will take another swig or not. Life is full of adventures.

If I had good fairies in the yard, I would leave them there and appreciate the fact they are there. Who knows what they have kept from getting to you.

Hell, it would be good to put out some fairy food just to maintain that status quo.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
No free thinking is when you look at available evidence and come to your own conclusion regardless to what the majority thinks.
Free thinkers can be wrong or right when they do this.
Clearly you are a Fox News reject and not a free thinker.
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ANd again you're wrong.

I don't watch Fox News.

Free thinkers are a free joke for all to laugh at.

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