Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Aerobatty wrote:
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Mouth to nose in a lump of clay is just plain stupid.
And the latest CPR guidelines say Compressions, Airway, Breathing, in that order.
It is no longer ABC. It is now CAB.
The stupid is taking that breathing into a lump of clay as literal, and then trying to pass it off as intellectual thought. Like you just did.

Your limited mentality again limits your perspective to some being in a material form breathing into a lump of wet dirt. You can't get past the possibility this deity being somewhat larger than you can see.

Put your lump of clay in a closed container. Your lump has cavities in it, right? In your case, a really large on above your shoulders.

Pressurize the container. What happens? Some of that pressure finds its way into those cavities. Chemical processes can then be activated.
You need to exhale from that cranial cavity you have and get let some fresh air back in.

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The_Box wrote:
Genesis was written by people who had no knowledge of human origins, and had to make up magical explanations for them. God breathing life into dust to make a man and then make a women out of his rib is magic. It's not even an attempt to be a scientific explanation.
Well no shit it's not an attempt to be a scientific explanation, it's the Bible, not a 10th grade science book.

The Bible doesn't claim to offer scientific explanations. Never has, never will.

That doesn't mean it's false, though. It also doesn't teach you how to roast a turkey, tie your shoes or pour concrete...

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The_Box wrote:
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No, it isn't. That's just a contrarian. A freethinker would reject accepted opinions if they were being accepted based simply on tradition or authority, like religion.
Which happens to be the exact opposite of you.
Freethought holds that individuals should not accept ideas proposed as truth without recourse to knowledge and reason.

Freethinkers thought the steady state model was accurate.

Freethinkers thought insects were borne of rotting food.

Freethinkers thought the eath was flat.

Freethinkers thought the Milky Way was the universe.

Freethinkers thought the universe is infinite, then finite, then infinite.

Ad nauseum

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Thinking wrote:
As an aside, does any religion *not* have a creation myth?
Does any religion say, "We're not sure how it all started, so let's do some scientific research."?
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Actually, yes. Christianity says that God createed everything. We're trying to find out HOW He did it.

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Imhotep wrote:
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How long have you been in the 'Bible turd polishing' business?
You are desperate.
Your religion is absurd, allergic to reality, and losing its grip. As knowledge increases your fantasy world will collapse.
Yes, thou shalt deny the facts but thou art lying to thyself. Google it.
A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.~Saul Bellow
I see your mind is incapable of learning, especially where the Bible is concerned.

You've got your own opinions about it and that's that.

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Well no shit it's not an attempt to be a scientific explanation, it's the Bible, not a 10th grade science book.
The Bible doesn't claim to offer scientific explanations. Never has, never will.
That doesn't mean it's false, though. It also doesn't teach you how to roast a turkey, tie your shoes or pour concrete...
Except we know that it is false. The evidence shows that humans evolved from earlier hominids, not that we were molded out of dust and created in an instant.

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Imhotep wrote:
How long have you been in the 'Bible turd polishing' business?
How long have you been in the bible bashing business?

Seems a complete waste of time to bash something you claim to not believe in...

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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The stupid is taking that breathing into a lump of clay as literal, and then trying to pass it off as intellectual thought. Like you just did.
Your limited mentality again limits your perspective to some being in a material form breathing into a lump of wet dirt. You can't get past the possibility this deity being somewhat larger than you can see.
Put your lump of clay in a closed container. Your lump has cavities in it, right? In your case, a really large on above your shoulders.
Pressurize the container. What happens? Some of that pressure finds its way into those cavities. Chemical processes can then be activated.
You need to exhale from that cranial cavity you have and get let some fresh air back in.
BTW, the earth is a pressurized container.

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The_Box wrote:
Except we know that it is false. The evidence shows that humans evolved from earlier hominids, not that we were molded out of dust and created in an instant.
And by what authority and/or evidence have you concluded that the story of Adam is literal?

Also, how do you know that Adam wasn't the first homo sapien?

Also, how are you the end-all be-all of what is Bible?

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Except we know that it is false. The evidence shows that humans evolved from earlier hominids, not that we were molded out of dust and created in an instant.
What makes you think the earlier hominids couldn't be Adam and Eve and the earlier begatters?
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Is there anything good about you?
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But you were never a girl, you fugly tranny
What a bs artist you are
Poof

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And by what authority and/or evidence have you concluded that the story of Adam is literal?
Fair enough. I'll restate: When taken literally, Genesis is known to be false.
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Also, how do you know that Adam wasn't the first homo sapien?
There was no 'first homo sapien'. Populations evolve, not individuals.
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Yes, that's your creation myth. I wanted to know if any religion doesn't have a creation myth.
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Christianity says that God createed everything.

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What makes you think the earlier hominids couldn't be Adam and Eve and the earlier begatters?
The earliest humans (Adam/Eve/Cain/Abel) in the Bible practiced agriculture, had complex language, and built cities. They're clearly not early hominids.

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I'm going to do some role playing here. I'm going to play act as a Topix atheist.

Hell, let me get properly prepared. Excuse me while I walk out to the concrete block fence.

THUMP!!!!!!

Uh, duh. Gee, that kinda hurted.

What was i doing? Oh, yeah.

Where is that low lifing blacklagoon?

Blackie, how dare you try to impose your values and definitions of what is true, fact, good, righteous, and all of that stuff on me. I have no belief in your music. It is something only goatherders and militaristic minds could find to be "truth". You fundie jazzturd. Believing in an imaginary skycooldaddy of music. A mindless boob trained to believe in such a thing. A high priest of bullshit just trying to sell some records.

Everyone was born a music atheist.

In segments of 4000 characters or less, take as many sections of them as you need, explain to us just why we should follow your illusionary path to musical nirvana.

Where is the proof of your false god?

Or something like that.

“YO BOO”

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Thinking wrote:
Yes, that's your creation myth. I wanted to know if any religion doesn't have a creation myth.
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YO dude where have been??? how is yo sister been... are yall still doing it???

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The_Box wrote:
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The earliest humans (Adam/Eve/Cain/Abel) in the Bible practiced agriculture, had complex language, and built cities. They're clearly not early hominids.
How do you deduce that?

The earliest humans would be found buried under settled places, not in the wilds of Africa like Lucy. It is an assumption modern humans started out as wild creatures.

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The_Box wrote:
Fair enough. I'll restate: When taken literally, Genesis is known to be false.
Try again. Here, I'll do it for you. "When taken literally, Genesis is assumed to be false."
There was no 'first homo sapien'. Populations evolve, not individuals.
According to ToE, it is assumed that every living thing evolved from some goo. There had to have been a first fish, a first bird, a first T-Rex, a first Neanderthal and a first homo sapien.

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Thinking wrote:
Yes, that's your creation myth. I wanted to know if any religion doesn't have a creation myth.
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I don't have a creation myth, so...

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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How do you deduce that?
The earliest humans would be found buried under settled places, not in the wilds of Africa like Lucy. It is an assumption modern humans started out as wild creatures.
I used the term "early hominids", not "early humans".

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