Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Think&Care”

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Feb 20, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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KNOCK KNOCK
Is anybody, or anything, in there?
Your whole damned body is chemicals. You can even ask a Topix atheist.
Electricity makes it "alive". Gravity and the nuclear forces just kind of sit there like knots on a log.
Jeez, you think you are something magical?
It is the chemical potential difference between oxygen and the molecules in food that 'makes it alive'. That isn't 'electricity' in the sense of electric current. There are moving electrons in the electron transport chain of metabolism, but life can exist without that (happens in bacteria). Transmission in neurons is primarily by induction, not conduction (saltation across the myelin).

Keep going. You are batting 1000 being wrong.

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Then you are going to have to give us the official physics and math definition of what "alive" is. Go for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life#Definitions

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Then you are going to have to give us the official physics and math definition of what "alive" is. Go for it.

Contains a cell wall and can reproduce and evolve.
Quite simple really.

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polymath257 wrote:
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No, actually, it isn't.
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No, actually, it doesn't. It is closer to the ROM than the CPU. If anything, the ribosomes are closer to being the CPU. The ribosomes are what take the RNA and translate it into proteins. And it is the proteins that determine the 'routing' and 'connections', not the DNA. Plus, the DNA has to be translated into RNA before the RNA gets processed by the ribosomes.
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Wrong yet again. Perhaps you should learn a bit of biochemistry?
If there wasn't a polarity in the DNA, nothing would happen. Is that polarity caused by gravity, the nuclear forces, or virtual particles? Or EM? Chemistry is pretty much EM exchanges.

BTW, found this

"The genetic information stored in DNA is a living archive of instructions that cells use to accomplish the functions of life."

http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/ribo...

IS DNA living?

Being "alive" is a system where energy can be directed counter to environmental forces, moving part or the whole assemblage. You stepping into the shade, or a plant growing matter to bend its leaves toward the sun.

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polymath257 wrote:
Can't come up with something on your own? I thought you understood this stuff.

Now, give us the details on those vague thingies you just posted. The atomic physics involved.

You pass a lot of gas as knowledge. Where's the beef?

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Aura Mytha wrote:
Buckethead and Yanni should hook up, they would put the sleeping pill business out of business! lmao!
From that and previous postings of your musical tastes it is apparent you need lots of noise to stimulate your brain to a conscious state. Seems to be little range for the more subtle songs.

Interesting.

And not at all surprising.

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From that and previous postings of your musical tastes it is apparent you need lots of noise to stimulate your brain to a conscious state. Seems to be little range for the more subtle songs.
Interesting.
And not at all surprising.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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The_Box wrote:
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He uses super god breath to turn a dust figure into an adult human. What part of that ISN'T magic?
The term freethinker doesn't mean you're supposed to be gullible and believe everything.
See? You think it's magic. Just as a person a few hundred years ago would think a zippo is magic...

A freethinker is a person that rejects accepted opinions...

That is NOT you.

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See? You think it's magic. Just as a person a few hundred years ago would think a zippo is magic...
A freethinker is a person that rejects accepted opinions...
That is NOT you.
The wheellock existed several hundred years ago, so you will have to do better than that.

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#155371
Feb 20, 2013
 
And what is the majority accepted opinions? Hmmm oh ya that some god created everything.

Guess we are free thinkers after all :)
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See? You think it's magic. Just as a person a few hundred years ago would think a zippo is magic...
A freethinker is a person that rejects accepted opinions...
That is NOT you.
Thinking

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German ones are. They seat four.
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Microwave ovens aren't strong enough to lift a car off the ground.

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Thinking wrote:
German ones are. They seat four.
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Ooh, you missed the free rationality giveaway.

If they have another one leave your number so they can call you in advance.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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See? You think it's magic. Just as a person a few hundred years ago would think a zippo is magic...
Your analogy is asinine.

Genesis was written by people who had no knowledge of human origins, and had to make up magical explanations for them. God breathing life into dust to make a man and then make a women out of his rib is magic. It's not even an attempt to be a scientific explanation.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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A freethinker is a person that rejects accepted opinions...
That is NOT you.
No, it isn't. That's just a contrarian. A freethinker would reject accepted opinions if they were being accepted based simply on tradition or authority, like religion.

Which happens to be the exact opposite of you.

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The_Box wrote:
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Your analogy is asinine.
Genesis was written by people who had no knowledge of human origins, and had to make up magical explanations for them. God breathing life into dust to make a man and then make a women out of his rib is magic. It's not even an attempt to be a scientific explanation.
Let's just say it was a very bad attempt, at a scientific explanation.

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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I don't think anyone believes that you are married. Just keep WAGing that BS!
Go to a comedy club on armature night and spread the joy.

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The_Box wrote:
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Your analogy is asinine.
Genesis was written by people who had no knowledge of human origins, and had to make up magical explanations for them. God breathing life into dust to make a man and then make a women out of his rib is magic. It's not even an attempt to be a scientific explanation.
Thank you for sharing with us your insignificant opinion.

I shall hold onto your opinion as long as it takes me to

[Hit print, printing, folding it into a paper airplane, launching it, crashing into the trash can].

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Feb 20, 2013
 
As an aside, does any religion *not* have a creation myth?

Does any religion say, "We're not sure how it all started, so let's do some scientific research."?
The_Box wrote:
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Your analogy is asinine.
Genesis was written by people who had no knowledge of human origins, and had to make up magical explanations for them. God breathing life into dust to make a man and then make a women out of his rib is magic. It's not even an attempt to be a scientific explanation.
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This can go real deep, but I will try to explain the jist of it.
God's sanctuary is a carnal typification of the spiritual. Everything had to be purified to go into the santuary.
The "lame at the gate" represents all "flesh", all of us, because we all have blemishes.
The short of it is that "ALL will be sanctified". Christ died for ALL those with blemish (all of us).
How long have you been in the 'Bible turd polishing' business?

You are desperate.

Your religion is absurd, allergic to reality, and losing its grip. As knowledge increases your fantasy world will collapse.

Yes, thou shalt deny the facts but thou art lying to thyself. Google it.

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.~Saul Bellow

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