Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 10

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#155352 Feb 20, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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As long as you stay out of hot tubs.
Eagle, Eagle, Eagle.

20 pushups.

You know why.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#155353 Feb 20, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Well, if a couple of hot babes where in there too and I wasn‘t married. I just might and they were laughing and giggling and having a good time.
I don't think anyone believes that you are married. Just keep WAGing that BS!

“Think&Care”

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#155354 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Bacteria are atheist.
You were the one claiming *all* known life comes from some sort of seed. I simply pointed out that you are wrong (again).

“Think&Care”

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#155355 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Microwave ovens aren't strong enough to lift a car off the ground. Set to low, bypass the door lockout, stick your head in one, and come back and tell me magnets, as in magnetic force, does not affect chemical processes.
I will wait.
The main force affecting things here is the electric component of the microwaves, not the magnetic component. Try again.

“Think&Care”

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#155356 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/wa...
High frequency EM.
BTW, the E and the M exist together. Can't really get one without the other.
Yes, you can. But *changing* electric fields produce magnetic fields and *changing* magnetic fields produce electric fields. Thanks Faraday.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#155357 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Bacteria are atheist.
polymath257 wrote:
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You were the one claiming *all* known life comes from some sort of seed. I simply pointed out that you are wrong (again).
I'm thinking bacteria or specifically the communication between bacteria , which in turn formed the ability to acquire memory.
Is the reason of life as we know it. Meaning bacteria could well be the reason of all life.

“Think&Care”

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#155358 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Smart enough to know good music.
You don't understand DNA and the EM part. It is a filter or transducer for that energy.
No, actually, it isn't.
Much like the processor in your computer. Does the routing and determines the connections.
No, actually, it doesn't. It is closer to the ROM than the CPU. If anything, the ribosomes are closer to being the CPU. The ribosomes are what take the RNA and translate it into proteins. And it is the proteins that determine the 'routing' and 'connections', not the DNA. Plus, the DNA has to be translated into RNA before the RNA gets processed by the ribosomes.
Pretty complicated little processor, but it isn't a central one. Lots and lots of them working in parallel, like in each cell.
In that sense, DNA is alive. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be either.
Wrong yet again. Perhaps you should learn a bit of biochemistry?

“Think&Care”

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#155359 Feb 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Slavery, and oppression of women, and belief in a supernatural is not a "Christian" thing. You like to pin it on us because you hate Christians, but you're wrong.
They are very Biblical. And you say belief in a supernatural is not a Christian thing??? Really??

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#155360 Feb 20, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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It still isn't alive. It is charged and connected to an electric potential, but that is a very different thing from being alive.
There is certainly a short circuit in understanding somewhere, but it isn't with blacklagoon.
Then you are going to have to give us the official physics and math definition of what "alive" is. Go for it.

“Think&Care”

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#155361 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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KNOCK KNOCK
Is anybody, or anything, in there?
Your whole damned body is chemicals. You can even ask a Topix atheist.
Electricity makes it "alive". Gravity and the nuclear forces just kind of sit there like knots on a log.
Jeez, you think you are something magical?
It is the chemical potential difference between oxygen and the molecules in food that 'makes it alive'. That isn't 'electricity' in the sense of electric current. There are moving electrons in the electron transport chain of metabolism, but life can exist without that (happens in bacteria). Transmission in neurons is primarily by induction, not conduction (saltation across the myelin).

Keep going. You are batting 1000 being wrong.

“Think&Care”

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#155362 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Then you are going to have to give us the official physics and math definition of what "alive" is. Go for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life#Definitions

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#155363 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Then you are going to have to give us the official physics and math definition of what "alive" is. Go for it.

Contains a cell wall and can reproduce and evolve.
Quite simple really.

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#155364 Feb 20, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No, actually, it isn't.
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No, actually, it doesn't. It is closer to the ROM than the CPU. If anything, the ribosomes are closer to being the CPU. The ribosomes are what take the RNA and translate it into proteins. And it is the proteins that determine the 'routing' and 'connections', not the DNA. Plus, the DNA has to be translated into RNA before the RNA gets processed by the ribosomes.
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Wrong yet again. Perhaps you should learn a bit of biochemistry?
If there wasn't a polarity in the DNA, nothing would happen. Is that polarity caused by gravity, the nuclear forces, or virtual particles? Or EM? Chemistry is pretty much EM exchanges.

BTW, found this

"The genetic information stored in DNA is a living archive of instructions that cells use to accomplish the functions of life."

http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/ribo...

IS DNA living?

Being "alive" is a system where energy can be directed counter to environmental forces, moving part or the whole assemblage. You stepping into the shade, or a plant growing matter to bend its leaves toward the sun.

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#155365 Feb 20, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
Can't come up with something on your own? I thought you understood this stuff.

Now, give us the details on those vague thingies you just posted. The atomic physics involved.

You pass a lot of gas as knowledge. Where's the beef?

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#155366 Feb 20, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
Buckethead and Yanni should hook up, they would put the sleeping pill business out of business! lmao!
From that and previous postings of your musical tastes it is apparent you need lots of noise to stimulate your brain to a conscious state. Seems to be little range for the more subtle songs.

Interesting.

And not at all surprising.

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#155367 Feb 20, 2013

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#155368 Feb 20, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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From that and previous postings of your musical tastes it is apparent you need lots of noise to stimulate your brain to a conscious state. Seems to be little range for the more subtle songs.
Interesting.
And not at all surprising.

“Ditat Deus”

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#155369 Feb 20, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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He uses super god breath to turn a dust figure into an adult human. What part of that ISN'T magic?
The term freethinker doesn't mean you're supposed to be gullible and believe everything.
See? You think it's magic. Just as a person a few hundred years ago would think a zippo is magic...

A freethinker is a person that rejects accepted opinions...

That is NOT you.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#155370 Feb 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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See? You think it's magic. Just as a person a few hundred years ago would think a zippo is magic...
A freethinker is a person that rejects accepted opinions...
That is NOT you.
The wheellock existed several hundred years ago, so you will have to do better than that.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#155371 Feb 20, 2013
And what is the majority accepted opinions? Hmmm oh ya that some god created everything.

Guess we are free thinkers after all :)
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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See? You think it's magic. Just as a person a few hundred years ago would think a zippo is magic...
A freethinker is a person that rejects accepted opinions...
That is NOT you.

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