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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155471 Feb 21, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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The earliest humans (Adam/Eve/Cain/Abel) in the Bible practiced agriculture, had complex language, and built cities. They're clearly not early hominids.
How do you deduce that?

The earliest humans would be found buried under settled places, not in the wilds of Africa like Lucy. It is an assumption modern humans started out as wild creatures.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#155472 Feb 21, 2013
The_Box wrote:
Fair enough. I'll restate: When taken literally, Genesis is known to be false.
Try again. Here, I'll do it for you. "When taken literally, Genesis is assumed to be false."
There was no 'first homo sapien'. Populations evolve, not individuals.
According to ToE, it is assumed that every living thing evolved from some goo. There had to have been a first fish, a first bird, a first T-Rex, a first Neanderthal and a first homo sapien.

“Ditat Deus”

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#155473 Feb 21, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Yes, that's your creation myth. I wanted to know if any religion doesn't have a creation myth.
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I don't have a creation myth, so...

Since: Dec 11

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#155474 Feb 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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How do you deduce that?
The earliest humans would be found buried under settled places, not in the wilds of Africa like Lucy. It is an assumption modern humans started out as wild creatures.
I used the term "early hominids", not "early humans".

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155475 Feb 21, 2013


Here is a beautiful little example of why religion is so important.

Since: Dec 11

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#155476 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Try again. Here, I'll do it for you. "When taken literally, Genesis is assumed to be false."
No, it's known, beyond a reasonable doubt. The evidence quite clearly contradicts it.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
According to ToE, it is assumed that every living thing evolved from some goo. There had to have been a first fish, a first bird, a first T-Rex, a first Neanderthal and a first homo sapien.
If you think that's the case, you don't understand the ToE correctly. Populations evolve, not individuals.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#155477 Feb 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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There are various names given to various methods of energy transfer. Energy is motion, nothing more.
Wrong. That is called kinetic energy. There are many other forms of energy. For example, the energy of an EM field is NOT due to motion.
Electric fields add up to electric currents if given a path to follow, meaning low resistance relative to the charge buildup.
You also need the charge. In a light wave, there is no charge.
People are taught the glass bends light rays by popular depiction so that it gives an idea to the masses. The light wave actually adds energy to the glass structure, the glass structure then discharges that excess to the fingertip according to its structure. The same happens to us.
Wrong yet again.
The Bible also describes things designed for the masses to understand, even though not exact.
So it is unreliable in detail.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#155478 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Try again. Here, I'll do it for you. "When taken literally, Genesis is assumed to be false."
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According to ToE, it is assumed that every living thing evolved from some goo. There had to have been a first fish, a first bird, a first T-Rex, a first Neanderthal and a first homo sapien.
Wrong.

1) Populations evolve, not individuals.

2) The definitions of 'fish, mammal, T-Rex, etc' are fuzzy. There isn't a precise line separating T-Rex from 'not-T-Rex'.

3) The amount of time it takes a changing population to cross that fuzzy boundary is measured in hundreds, if not thousands, of generations.

These together mean that no single individual can be labeled the 'first' of any species. Nor, for that matter, can any single generation.
Anon

Cleveland, OH

#155479 Feb 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FxY0QxacEmMXX
Here is a beautiful little example of why religion is so important.
How could you be inspired by this mediocre piece of crap?

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155480 Feb 21, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Wrong. That is called kinetic energy. There are many other forms of energy. For example, the energy of an EM field is NOT due to motion.
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You also need the charge. In a light wave, there is no charge.
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Wrong yet again.
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So it is unreliable in detail.
You are wrong.

You get a charge, polarity, from motion within the atom at the least. How else could you get your "neutral" atom. There are no monopoles.

Your light wave or particle is passing through the charges of the object such as that lens. I think that passing through has something to do with motion. That energy will disrupt the local relative equilibrium.

Your atoms are fields occupying space. Particles are the concentrated portions which gives the illusion of "solidity" because of the limitations of the observing apparatus. Your atomic theory is these fields, or charges, hold the particles, or concentrations, in a matrix. Your "empty" space between concentrations is not "empty", it is occupied by those charged fields. Disturb that space and you affect the whole equilibrium of the matrix.

You need to get away from worshiping your idols and more into what created them.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155481 Feb 21, 2013
Anon wrote:
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How could you be inspired by this mediocre piece of crap?
If you had any soul or poetry in you it would be obvious.

Has to do with being trapped, desperation, and holding on for something better, to have it reshaped, like dust in gravity.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155482 Feb 21, 2013
I swear, if you gave a Topix atheist a brain they would stare at it blankly, or put it between two slices of bread. Not enough creativity to even roll it into a snakey or ball, teacher would have to show them how.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#155483 Feb 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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BTW, the earth is a pressurized container.
Your complete and total lack of scientific study is astounding.
Anon

Cleveland, OH

#155484 Feb 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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If you had any soul or poetry in you it would be obvious.
Has to do with being trapped, desperation, and holding on for something better, to have it reshaped, like dust in gravity.
I quite realize all that. It's still a mediocre effort at best.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155485 Feb 21, 2013
Anon wrote:
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I quite realize all that. It's still a mediocre effort at best.
Better than none at all.

Here, put some mustard on it. It will taste better.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155486 Feb 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your complete and total lack of scientific study is astounding.
Grab a barometer. Read it. Put it in your pocket.

On your next trip out to Neptune, pull it out and read it again along the way.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155487 Feb 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your complete and total lack of scientific study is astounding.
Oh.

Here, put a little of this cinnamon on it. It goes good with that latte.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#155488 Feb 21, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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No, it's known, beyond a reasonable doubt. The evidence quite clearly contradicts it.
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If you think that's the case, you don't understand the ToE correctly. Populations evolve, not individuals.
The ole infamous atheist comeback, "you just don't understand"

'_'

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#155489 Feb 21, 2013
There is an interesting corollary between quantum physics and existence. Has to do with the effect of the observer on the observed.

Keep in mind what you observe is what you exist in.

Being "objective" is being critical. As you know, there is a difference between being critical as in discerning, and being critical as in being a pain in the ass to everyone else.

You can be a critical thinker that can change your world into something devoid of fun. The magic is no longer in the world you lived in, but in the delusion you get justifying yourself. Then you get to be a critical pain in the ass telling others they are wrong for what they believe in. You get caught in a loop. You can become a Topix atheist or a music critic.

Or something like that.

Since: Dec 11

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#155490 Feb 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The ole infamous atheist comeback, "you just don't understand"
'_'
I specifically told you WHY you were wrong: populations evolve, not individuals.

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