Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[TheBlackSheep]

polymath257 wrote:

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Unlike religion, which still wallows in the same mistakes as always. Science, by correcting its mistakes, learns about how the universe works and the same mistakes are not made a second time. So there is progress. It is never absolutely proven (no amount of observation can produce absolute proof of a general proposition), but the confidence can be quite high. And the error bars get smaller all the time.

Those 'error bars' are where all the gods live!

[Darth Bob]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Eyewitness accounts of human interaction with Him have been recorded and preserved for us in the Bible and are still recorded today.
But does such documented testimony satisfy skeptics? It never has, and it never will.
Even if God Himself appeared & performed miracles, you'd probably say He's an alien or something & make fun of theists for "twisting the truth".
Some of the people who knew of Christ's miracles later shouted for His blood. That would've been you.

What documented eyewitness testimony is there in the Bible?

[Darth Bob]

As an atheist (or more correctly, a nullafidian), I would say I have no hope. Rather I attempt to base my views and expectations upon probability.

I could hope for an afterlife in a never-never land.

I could hope Zoe Deschanel would show up naked on my doorstep tonight.

I could also hope to win $20 million in the lottery.

And of course, for all of the above hopes, there is very little evidence to support such hopes. Hence, why I don't engage in them.

[Thinking]

See above, fucktard.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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No, no, no...
It's written "flavor".

[Thinking]

god's real estate shrinks every year.

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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Those 'error bars' are where all the gods live!

[macumazahn]

River Tam wrote:

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God created the Taliban so they could rape and kill little girls. God created paedophiles and...
Oops, sorry. God created Free Will or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

THAT'S IT!

[macumazahn]

Darth Bob wrote:

As an atheist (or more correctly, a nullafidian), I would say I have no hope. Rather I attempt to base my views and expectations upon probability.
I could hope for an afterlife in a never-never land.
I could hope Zoe Deschanel would show up naked on my doorstep tonight.
I could also hope to win $20 million in the lottery.
And of course, for all of the above hopes, there is very little evidence to support such hopes. Hence, why I don't engage in them.

Oh, dear...

Zooey - "Tin Man".

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

Sorry, pal. Christianity is currently rising faster than the world's population.

Yeah, they just don't like going to church. LOL...

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

"Be an atheist.
Inflame your ego."

"Be religious.
Inflame your delusion."

[Aerobatty]

Eagle12 wrote:

This would make a good freeway sign.

"Be an Atheist and join hopelessness."

Really?

[Aerobatty]

Dave Nelson wrote:

<quoted text>Science corrected itself all through history, even under the Church. It is a process, not a religion. But you are trying to turn it into a religion.

Well, modern science did get a good kickstart under the Church.

The Church filled the void left by the collapse of the Roman Empire. The void included libraries and the exchange of information. The Church brought what survived back. They provided the education and facilities.

You listen to too many soundbites.

One more time.

It was Faraday and Maxwell, two devout theists, that are the absolute underpinnings of modern science. They dealt with this invisible force and turned it into the tool used since by modern physics and science.

Them directly.

Spouting "god told me so" the whole time.

[Darth Bob]

macumazahn wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, dear...
Zooey - "Tin Man".

Indeed, I realized my mistake right after I posted it.

She'll never sleep with me now...oh darn :(

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, and that is why we say science is STILL correcting itself.

Thank you very much.

And science will go on correcting itself.

Will religion?

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>Or the atheist recruitment motto:

"Be an atheist.
Inflame your ego."

Really?

[Aura Mytha]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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I would think the knee would be better. Harder for a dead brainless zombie to catch you on one leg than a dead brainless zombie shot between the eyes by a brainless Topix atheist that shot it there. Gee, a zombie might fall in love with a Topix atheist that shot it in the head, and follow it forever. I think that is a gesture of affection for the brainless.
Yeah, shoot a brainless corpse between the eyes to stop it.
You gotta think about things like that, Orrie.

But thinking was never your strong suit.
Admit it Dave, Hollywood figured out zombie death ..long before you ever even thought about it.

[Atheist Silurist]

Aerobatty wrote:

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And science will go on correcting itself.
Will religion?

Religion will never be able to correct itself because it's so wrong.

[Tide with Beach]

scaritual wrote:

How about that theist motto?
"Be a Theist! You can worship anything you want, dragons, lizard mosquitoes on snow fire, it can be anything you imagine, after all, it's not like anyone can prove it doesn't exist.."

You can have whatever you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch...

[macumazahn]

Darth Bob wrote:

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Indeed, I realized my mistake right after I posted it.
She'll never sleep with me now...oh darn :(

I, however, still hold out hope.

Optimism springs eternal, and all that.

[Givemeliberty]

But being a George Burns look alike you have to worry about your Alzheimer's making you think you saw Jesus in your magnets and strings.

Darth Bob wrote:

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Speaking personally -- if I could be reasonably assured I wasn't hallucinating, I'd heartily welcome it.
Of course, there's some parsing to be done here. The "Bible God" has more than one personality. The Yahweh who gleefully orders the slaughtering of Amalekites (among many, many others) seems to be a far different deity than the (generally) nice Jesus.
In either event, I'd certainly respect whatever deity showed up. I'd respect Brahmin, Zeus, Marduk, Ahura Mazda, Mithras, El, Osiris and Thor too if they showed up.

[Givemeliberty]

Has nothing to do with chess half wit. A good hand doesn't lead to a checkmate as you stated.

Of course you think historians are not scholars.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Ever heard a phrase like "Life dealt me a bad deck of cards."?
No?
Not surprised.
'_'