Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154869 Feb 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Straw man. Over use of capitalisation is more often a believer sort of thing.
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Care to cite your sources? Topix atheists always demand that. Since they can't think for themselves.

Now, please. Validate thyself.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#154870 Feb 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your thinking is the result of random transfers of incoherent energy. Your chemical actions and such?
Why should your thinking be taken seriously?
I don't believe in the absolute infallibility of numbers. I don't run out of gas. Not after a couple of times a very long time ago.
Well why are you babbling about stuff that is of little concern?
Is it because your thinking is the result of random transfers of incoherent energy? Oh....I thought so.

Your car may not have, but your posts here on topix sure have.
So why should your thinking be taken seriously?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#154871 Feb 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It takes a motive force for those atoms to motivate.
How did those lifeless atoms motivate you to type that?
Drop some organic matter into acid and you get interaction resulting in an energy flow. For this energy flow to result in coherent actions in a proactive way, as you think you are doing involves quite a bit of interacting. Do you really believe your actions are the result of lifeless atoms bumping against each other? How can you be certain of it? Of yourself? We are talking about you, not everyone else.

It could be life was ordinary matter that got bored.
So....the motive force was boredom. lol

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154872 Feb 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It takes a motive force for those atoms to motivate.
How did those lifeless atoms motivate you to type that?
Drop some organic matter into acid and you get interaction resulting in an energy flow. For this energy flow to result in coherent actions in a proactive way, as you think you are doing involves quite a bit of interacting. Do you really believe your actions are the result of lifeless atoms bumping against each other? How can you be certain of it? Of yourself? We are talking about you, not everyone else.
What part of, "We do not know the mechanism.", did you not understand? That was polymath257's first sentence! We don't yet know how. Your only guess is, one of the thousands of gods man invented, did it. You have no supporting evidence, no build up to that conclusion, just blind faith. Whereas, in science, we have several steps in the process, which can be tested.

You say that everything requires a creator, but then that falls to pieces when we ask how your creator was created. You have no steps, just a leap of faith.

As for me, I would much rather let scientific study run its course, than have blind faith in a deity.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154873 Feb 18, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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It could be life was ordinary matter that got bored.
So....the motive force was boredom. lol
You have no idea how close to the truth you may be there.

God works in mysterious ways.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154874 Feb 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Care to cite your sources? Topix atheists always demand that. Since they can't think for themselves.
Now, please. Validate thyself.
Check this forum out.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...

You will see that the christians are mainly the ones using mostly caps.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154875 Feb 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You have no idea how close to the truth you may be there.
God works in mysterious ways.
Care to cite your sources? Topix fundies always demand that. Since they can't think for themselves.

Now, please. Validate thyself.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154876 Feb 18, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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What part of, "We do not know the mechanism.", did you not understand? That was polymath257's first sentence! We don't yet know how. Your only guess is, one of the thousands of gods man invented, did it. You have no supporting evidence, no build up to that conclusion, just blind faith. Whereas, in science, we have several steps in the process, which can be tested.
You say that everything requires a creator, but then that falls to pieces when we ask how your creator was created. You have no steps, just a leap of faith.
As for me, I would much rather let scientific study run its course, than have blind faith in a deity.
You are making a pretty large leap there yourself.

Your basic belief in such is that we are the result of random actions. Remember, no intelligent design behind all of this in your view.

Thus, all is the result of random combinations, including your belief. You are under an illusion at best of being "right" in your determinations of what is and what ain't. You blow a bubble around yourself you can't see past.

Keep an open mind. You will see more things to base your determining abilities on.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154877 Feb 18, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Check this forum out.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...
You will see that the christians are mainly the ones using mostly caps.
So?

You can read all of these forums and see that the Topix atheists make the overwhelming majority of irrational rants and associations.

Must be a "truth" in there.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154878 Feb 18, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
American society will accept almost any religious beliefs.
80% of Americans would disagree with you...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154879 Feb 18, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Care to cite your sources? Topix fundies always demand that. Since they can't think for themselves.
Now, please. Validate thyself.
I am flattered by your imitation.

And do so very much appreciate demonstration of your inability to think for yourself or be original. It certainly helps reinforce my observation.
Siro

Brisbane, Australia

#154880 Feb 18, 2013
So the atheists say that life came about because atoms somehow got together at random to form self repeating patterns uniformly at a random basis?

Whatever God haters.....

You know everything?
OK, explain this....The division of the sexes

Awaiting your diatribe,
Love Siro

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154881 Feb 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
jesus christ...
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Phil McCracken

Hugh Jass

Seymour Buttz

I.P. Daley

Emma Hoar
Thinking

Hounslow, UK

#154882 Feb 18, 2013
You must be blind or lying. It happens so often.

www.topix.com/forum/city/medina-tn/T6E07P6QT6...
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Care to cite your sources? Topix atheists always demand that. Since they can't think for themselves.
Now, please. Validate thyself.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154883 Feb 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are making a pretty large leap there yourself.
Your basic belief in such is that we are the result of random actions. Remember, no intelligent design behind all of this in your view.
Thus, all is the result of random combinations, including your belief. You are under an illusion at best of being "right" in your determinations of what is and what ain't. You blow a bubble around yourself you can't see past.
Keep an open mind. You will see more things to base your determining abilities on.
Again, you read only what you want and ignore the rest. How many steps, in the process, has science filled in? How many steps has religion filled in?

I don't recall reading about DNA in the bible. I don't recall reading about atoms, bacteria or how to preform an appendectomy, in the bible.

Your mythology has one giant, unfounded, untestable, unbelievable leap. Science has a hell of a lot of testable, provable, believable steps.

Haven't you already stated that your mind is closed?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154884 Feb 18, 2013
bohart wrote:
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"Without testable hypotheses and repeatable results , all you have is personal opinion, not actual knowledge".....polymath 257
thanks for your opinion.
There was no opinion in Poly's post.

That's all verified fact.

Deal with it.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154885 Feb 18, 2013
This pondering the cause and purpose and etc of the universe and existence is nice, but really pales in comparison to something a bit more "reality" based. Something more concrete than the possibilities of deities, etc.

The real burning question.

If a Topix atheist was given a brain, could it learn how to use it? Even if given billions of years?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154886 Feb 18, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
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David Nelson says ďI believe in God but I do not try and assume I know what it is.Ē
Iím hearing Bronze Age thinking here. Thatís like saying that although you donít know what a Zqkthplm is, you damn well believe in it!
Such inane replies spring from the harsh, incessant social pressure to conform and Believe in God. It doesnít matter which god, which in itself seems silly, but there it is.
American society will accept almost any religious beliefs.
Must we continually list the atrocities caused by Christianity and its intrinsic intolerance?
The Crusades, the Inquisitions, burning witches, killing Jews. Letís not forget the Thirty Years War and the killings in Northern Ireland. Or the Christians giving Native Americans two choices: convert or die. The current madness in Iraq is a direct result of Christian arrogance, and Bushís own words about his messianic mission attest to that fact.
Here's a brief list of current religious conflicts:

http://funvax.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/curren...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154887 Feb 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You have no idea how close to the truth you may be there.
God works in mysterious ways.
God is boring.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154888 Feb 18, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Again, you read only what you want and ignore the rest. How many steps, in the process, has science filled in? How many steps has religion filled in?
I don't recall reading about DNA in the bible. I don't recall reading about atoms, bacteria or how to preform an appendectomy, in the bible.
Your mythology has one giant, unfounded, untestable, unbelievable leap. Science has a hell of a lot of testable, provable, believable steps.
Haven't you already stated that your mind is closed?
Hmmmm...you missed my reference to the irrational associations Topix atheists make. Or you just went ahead and did so anyhow.

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