Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#154703 Feb 17, 2013
Daffy thinks an advertisement for a book is proof for Jesus. Daffy thinks because a book written by a guy who said he knew the world was ending in 1988, claims it then it must be true!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahaha!
Eagle12 wrote:
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His newest book has turned some of his perennial critics into fans, at least temporarily. In "Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth," Ehrman decimates the persistent arguments of those who not only deny the divinity of Jesus but insist that no such man ever even existed.
In an interview, I asked Ehrman about the motives of the "mythicists," the evidence supporting the existence of Jesus, and his own spiritual beliefs.
Q: As you explain in your book, many mythicists continue to try to debunk the very existence of Jesus Christ. What's the motivation of those who try to turn Jesus into an imaginary figure?
A: It's been a bit of a mystery. I don't have a solid answer, but I have a hunch. It's based on the fact that everybody who’s a mythicist is a very strong agnostic or, more typically, a hard-core atheist.
And virtually [all mythicists are] diehard opponent[s] of organized religion. They think it's done so much harm in the world, not just crusades and inquisitions, but by supporting slavery and racism and sexism and so forth.
These people, who are quite strongly opposed to religion, live in a culture where the dominant religion is Christianity. These people think that by showing Christianity is founded on a myth, they can show that it's in fact a fairy tale not worthy of belief.
Q: How influential are these people?
A: They are not influential among scholars of antiquity, historians of the ancient world, classicists, and biblical scholars. There, they've made virtually no impact.
Where they have made an impact is in popular circles, especially with the advent of the Internet. There is an increasing following of these people on the Internet, and a number of them have written books that have sold a lot of copies.
Q: Does the existence of Jesus matter for people who aren't Christian?
A: For people who have allegiance at all to Jesus, whether they consider themselves Christian or consider him an ethical teacher, it matters whether he existed or not.
I myself am an agnostic, and one would ask why would it matter to me.
The answer is that history really matters. It's important that we not rewrite it as the way we want it to be. Once we give people that license, it can lead to all sorts of dangerous political and social implications. It's important to get history right even if it's something that we're not that concerned about.
The second thing is that whether we're Christian or not, there's no doubt that Christianity is the most important phenomenon in Western civilization. Jesus stands at the foundation of Christianity and the Christian church. It's important to understand Jesus.
Q: Many biblical scholars believe that the canonical Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John – weren't written by anyone who personally knew Jesus. Does that make it difficult to rely on them as historical narratives of what really happened?
A: Scholars have worked on this problem for a very long time, starting in the 1770s. We're talking about a discipline that’s hundreds of years old.
For about the last century, the majority of scholars in Europe and North America have agreed that the earliest gospels, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, do contain historically reliable information.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Books/chapter-and-ve... (page)/2

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#154704 Feb 17, 2013
Of there was a Jesus of Nazareth he couldn't have been the Jesus spoke of in the bible because Nazareth didn't even exist until more than a century after his supposed death.
Darth Bob wrote:
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I am somewhat mystified by the interviewer's claim that Ehrman "Ehrman decimates the persistent arguments of those who not only deny the divinity of Jesus but insist that no such man ever even existed."
Ehrman certainly agrees (as I do) that there was almost certainly such a person as Jesus of Nazareth, but Ehrman makes no claim that Jesus was actually divine. In fact, in the interview, Ehrman says: " I don't know whether there's a superior being. I prefer to call myself an agnostic because it simply acknowledges what I don't know."

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#154705 Feb 17, 2013
Hey I was waiting for a long winded bumbling Dave diatribe! Dave if you, eagle, kjv, langoliers or whoever else doubt the statements I have made, put your money where your mouth is as I have verifiable proof of everything about my charity work, stocks, rental properties, websites and so forth.

Bets will start at $10,000, step up or accept defeat.

I am more than confident as are my 800+ Facebook friends who have seen these pictures and videos through the years.

Step up already George Burns look alike contest winner or I shall laugh and humbly accept your surrender.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I think your ingestion of artificial chemicals has affected your judgment in a serious way.
You are the one that announced to the world your porn interests, multinational business interests, very comfortable financial sources, and concern for poor homeless children in poverty stricken countries. This is not the only forum you have been active on. You didn't raise a red flag, you shot a flare into the night sky.
If indeed you are involved in such enterprises, and not just a big mouth, your business partners should get extremely nervous about you running loose, and your very likely prospect of ratting them out if pressure comes to bear upon you. They may think your blacksnake shoved down your throat would be the best place for it.
However, it may very well be that you are just another loud mouthed role player on the internet living in a complete fantasy land. Who knows but you and those with the interest and wherewithal that may take a closer look at you because of your noise. That is the real world and not this game we play on here. As it is, it is easy enough to make you help yourself look stupid and out of control on here.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#154706 Feb 17, 2013
Ah topix where a senile old Christian named Dave who was the winner of the George Burns look alike contest can spout his readers digest one liners and get laughed at and humiliated by people all over the world. Right now there is a chick in Sweden shaking her head at Dave's stupidity.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Ah, Topix and the internet. Where else can 13 year old brains in much older bodies play act, trying hard to appear as intellectual, mature adult atheists?
Ain't technology grand? Providing playgrounds for the mentally impaired?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154707 Feb 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hey I was waiting for a long winded bumbling Dave diatribe! Dave if you, eagle, kjv, langoliers or whoever else doubt the statements I have made, put your money where your mouth is as I have verifiable proof of everything about my charity work, stocks, rental properties, websites and so forth.
Bets will start at $10,000, step up or accept defeat.
I am more than confident as are my 800+ Facebook friends who have seen these pictures and videos through the years.
Step up already George Burns look alike contest winner or I shall laugh and humbly accept your surrender.
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Personally, I could care less.

I just made some observations based upon your persona on here and statements you made. In my opinion you are piece of shit.

Let others make their own judgments on you based on what they know.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154708 Feb 17, 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/bill...

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Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#154709 Feb 17, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Ah, Topix and the internet. Where else can 13 year old brains in much older bodies play act, trying hard to appear as intellectual, mature adult atheists?
Guess what troll,'m not atheists, which proves all you post is hyperbole.

If your religion was “advertised” on TV, you religitards without any proof of its validity, would run to your phone and buy it, at any cost. If your parents didn't tell you that Santa Clause was fake, you'd STILL be believing in him too, fool.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154710 Feb 17, 2013
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stor...

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154712 Feb 17, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Ah, Topix and the internet. Where else can 13 year old brains in much older bodies play act, trying hard to appear as intellectual, mature adult atheists?
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Guess what troll,'m not atheists, which proves all you post is hyperbole.
If your religion was “advertised” on TV, you religitards without any proof of its validity, would run to your phone and buy it, at any cost. If your parents didn't tell you that Santa Clause was fake, you'd STILL be believing in him too, fool.
You aren't atheist? Well, please forgive me. Let me correct that to read the following for your particular case.

Ah, Topix and the internet. Where else can 13 year old brains in much older bodies play act, trying hard to appear as intellectual, mature adults?

With a tendency to do stupid posts.

Am I forgiven?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#154713 Feb 17, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Guess what troll,'m not atheists, which proves all you post is hyperbole.
If your religion was “advertised” on TV, you religitards without any proof of its validity, would run to your phone and buy it, at any cost. If your parents didn't tell you that Santa Clause was fake, you'd STILL be believing in him too, fool.
Santa Clause is real, there is just a bunch of them.
And they all ain't fat wearing a red suit and going by the name Chris Crinkle.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#154714 Feb 17, 2013
Of fly around in a magic sleigh with Rudolf blinking the way.
something seven

Lodi, WI

#154715 Feb 17, 2013

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#154716 Feb 17, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Ah, Topix and the internet. Where else can 13 year old brains in much older bodies play act, trying hard to appear as intellectual, mature adults? With a tendency to do stupid posts.
Speaking from personal experience I see. Maybe if you didn't waste your time with some loser religion you'd have better self-esteem and not feel that way about yourself. Oh bother.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#154717 Feb 17, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Dave Nelson wrote:
Ah, Topix and the internet. Where else can 13 year old brains in much older bodies play act, trying hard to appear as intellectual, mature adult atheists?
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You aren't atheist? Well, please forgive me. Let me correct that to read the following for your particular case.
Ah, Topix and the internet. Where else can 13 year old brains in much older bodies play act, trying hard to appear as intellectual, mature adults?
With a tendency to do stupid posts.
Am I forgiven?
You don't like 13 , because that's too old for your devious plans.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#154718 Feb 17, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Am I forgiven?
Don't ask me.

I'm not your god, or Jesus, or a magnet.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154719 Feb 17, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Don't ask me.
I'm not your god, or Jesus, or a magnet.
You ain't shit, either.

Why do you feel so compelled to volunteer your comments?

Hooked the spa back up. Looks like it will work.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154720 Feb 17, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Are you part of WAG, too?
Homey, you are way out of the main stream. WAG means Wild Ass Guess. I would have told you sooner but I thought you knew.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154721 Feb 17, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Don't ask me.
I'm not your god, or Jesus, or a magnet.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio...

Atheists don't need a skydaddy to keep watch over them. They have their fellow man.

Careful who you have in that outdoor hot tub with you, Catcher.

Oh yeah, make sure everything on your property is up to code. No unpermitted buildings, trash piles, etc, etc, etc.

Ain't science and technology grand?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154722 Feb 17, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Homey, you are way out of the main stream. WAG means Wild Ass Guess. I would have told you sooner but I thought you knew.
Sorry, I am not as hip as you. It must be because I am really in my 50's and you are really a young kid.

But you did answer my question; the christian god isn't interested in talking to christians anymore than it is interested in talking to me.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#154723 Feb 17, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Homey, you are way out of the main stream. WAG means Wild Ass Guess. I would have told you sooner but I thought you knew.
I thought WAG meant "women and girls"?

But there you go , making d stuff up!

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