Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154609 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Lenin was and is adored by those people as a hero, yes even the religious Russians. The head of the Russian Orthodox Church still maintains prays for Lenin and Stalin was and is a saint in their church. Your own copy and paste even states the churches were left open for service as they always had been.
In those days poor parents would send their kids away to the church to get an education which meant reading the bible and getting molested by the clergy. Lenin mandated all children receive a proper education in history, math, science and language.
That evil man! How dare he see to it for the first time children there regardless of income learn to read and get a proper education, becoming head and shoulders more knowledgable than children in many other countries?! How dare he!
Lmfao! Crazy ole Daffy! Always good for a laugh.
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Please supply sources.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154610 Feb 16, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> obviously you are correct in general. I do not think that all atheists are pacifists or that all persons of faith are pro-violence, however. It is too bad that it is mostly the extremists of the far right on politics and religion represent themselves as spokesman for so called conservatism, when they are very far from being respectable conservatives. It is a usurpation both on internet and in the real world - American political and religious arguments are too vicious because the far rightwing extremists represent themselves as speaking for the conservatives. Look at Sebator Cruz, and you see and hear the memory of Senator Joe Carthy. Probably a hero of some of the rightwing extremists on topix.... but all conservatives and all Christians are not evil just because the noisy rightwing extremists have stolen the limelight and the reputatable center right is drowned out with their yelling.
http://en.wi kipedi a.org/wiki/Mass_ki llings_under_Commu nist_regimes
KJV

United States

#154611 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>I think he stepped on his Johnson.
What again? LOL

Posted by Langoliers:

"

"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "

OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!

You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!

Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!

Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!

Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family"

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#154612 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Jesus could show up big and bright in the sky tomorrow, no mistake in who it would be, Then you would run and find a I love Jesus button, pin it on, then run to the head of the line waiting for your reward, because now you have proof.
And what's wrong with that? Proof makes all the difference. Blind faith is for fools...

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154614 Feb 16, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Then pretend you're in a court of law and present your evidence. If you have none, then we rest our case religitard.
In this,ďlets pretend,Ē court of law.

Where is your evidence to support the none existence of God?

Obviously you donít have any or you would have presented such evidence.

If you have none, and we know you donít, we rest our case.

This is the typical atheist tactic to get the opposition to present evidence while failing to present your own.

The burden of proof is on the accuser my friend and you donít have any.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154615 Feb 16, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
What again? LOL
Posted by Langoliers:
"
"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "
OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!
You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!
Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family"
Givemeliberty has serious credibility issues. He/She will say anything and claim it as facts without any proof.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154616 Feb 16, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
You guess!?!? Well hey, how about you ask your god and question? If you get the right answer from your god, then I will believe!
I have a calendar in my den, what is the theme?
What? Your god will no play? Why not? It would bring glory to him. Isn't that the main criteria for him?
No worries, I understand.
I'm going to tell you.

The calender on your wall is all about the Months and days of the year. Theme is nature but you are going to deny it.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#154617 Feb 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Givemeliberty has serious credibility issues. He/She will say anything and claim it as facts without any proof.
Probably has more issues than just that.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154618 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Amusing.
Jesus could show up big and bright in the sky tomorrow, no mistake in who it would be, Then you would run and find a I love Jesus button, pin it on, then run to the head of the line waiting for your reward, because now you have proof.
:-)
cute
You're right! To a point, at least. If I had proof, then I would not deny it.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154619 Feb 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm going to tell you.
The calender on your wall is all about the Months and days of the year. Theme is nature but you are going to deny it.
You're right! How did you know?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#154620 Feb 16, 2013
So no comments about that money being spent on particle physics. The scientific references to not being able to see all this invisible stuff they just know is there. This molasses electrons pass through, etc. They want to coax it out by exploding it out.

Particles that float in and out within a second.

Interesting stuff, this hard nosed math based physics.

No invisible skydaddies, no interaction, however brief it may be, with maybe its dimension and that we may have emerged from.

Curious. I thought Topx atheist were real science buffs.

Since: Sep 08

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#154621 Feb 16, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right! To a point, at least. If I had proof, then I would not deny it.
:-)

Do you need proof or faith before putting your very last quarter into a slot machine?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#154622 Feb 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
Where is your evidence to support the none existence of God?
You piss all over the pope and if lightning doesn't strike, well... there ya go.

Evidence of absence is evidence of any kind that suggests something is missing or that it does not exist. A simple example of evidence of absence: A baker never fails to put finished pies on her windowsill, so if there is no pie on the windowsill, then no finished pies exist. This can be formulated as modus tollens in propositional logic: P implies Q, but Q is false, therefore P is false.

You can't prove a negative. But then you already knew that. You just use your childish "prove god doesn't exist" excuse because then you think you don't have to prove that god exist. Wrong butthead!!!

You CAN prove that things exist; but you can't PROVE that they don't, nor should anyone have to. A reasonable person would reject a belief without evidence. Only a religious person would be retarded enough to believe in things like unicorns or anything else that has never been proven.

1. If God exists, then he is perfect.
2. If God exists, then he is the creator of the universe.
3. A perfect being can have no needs or wants.
4. If any being created the universe, then he must have had some need or want.
5. Therefore, it is impossible for a perfect being to be the creator of the universe (from 3 and 4).
6. Hence, it is impossible for God to exist (from 1, 2, and 5).

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#154623 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
:-)
Do you need proof or faith before putting your very last quarter into a slot machine?
Getting to be bed time for me, and I know you are a little slow. So here is the next question.

Proof or faith, either one.

Would you cuss and swear and call the slot machine names before putting that quarter in? Or the casino staff, for that matter?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#154624 Feb 16, 2013
I wonder if Topix atheists secretly believe that if they are wrong some skydaddy will put its hand on their shoulder, look them in the eye and tell them they have been bad, and will miss dinner that night?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#154625 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
I wonder if Topix atheists secretly believe that if they are wrong some skydaddy will put its hand on their shoulder, look them in the eye and tell them they have been bad, and will miss dinner that night?
Only a religitard acts in fear.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#154626 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Getting to be bed time for me, and I know you are a little slow. So here is the next question.
Proof or faith, either one.
Would you cuss and swear and call the slot machine names before putting that quarter in? Or the casino staff, for that matter?
Is Dave trying to say the Jesus! is a machine designed by man to take your money?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154627 Feb 16, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>
You piss all over the pope and if lightning doesn't strike, well... there ya go.
Evidence of absence is evidence of any kind that suggests something is missing or that it does not exist. A simple example of evidence of absence: A baker never fails to put finished pies on her windowsill, so if there is no pie on the windowsill, then no finished pies exist. This can be formulated as modus tollens in propositional logic: P implies Q, but Q is false, therefore P is false.
You can't prove a negative. But then you already knew that. You just use your childish "prove god doesn't exist" excuse because then you think you don't have to prove that god exist. Wrong butthead!!!
You CAN prove that things exist; but you can't PROVE that they don't, nor should anyone have to. A reasonable person would reject a belief without evidence. Only a religious person would be retarded enough to believe in things like unicorns or anything else that has never been proven.
1. If God exists, then he is perfect.
2. If God exists, then he is the creator of the universe.
3. A perfect being can have no needs or wants.
4. If any being created the universe, then he must have had some need or want.
5. Therefore, it is impossible for a perfect being to be the creator of the universe (from 3 and 4).
6. Hence, it is impossible for God to exist (from 1, 2, and 5).
Atheist ax 4 proof but had no proof to reproof the proof.

Proof debut de proof.

Ax da proof de atheist say.

Show me dee proof so he says so he can poof the proof.

Poofing da proof is what atheist do so day say whereís da proof.

It was dare we say, he say where dee proof?

Look rat dare is dee proof but you poofed the proof so ye could say, where da damn proof?

We showd U da damn proof gane but you done poofed it so U could say I dunt see da damn proof.

Opan ya damn Iís so ya can see win we say dare, rat dare is da proof.

So I gus U gone to ax me gane, Wheres da damn proof?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154628 Feb 16, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right! How did you know?
WAG

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154629 Feb 16, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>And what's wrong with that? Proof makes all the difference. Blind faith is for fools...
Prove to me how all life started on the Earth from dead lifeless sterile material.

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