Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 08

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#154569 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Not at all Dave. Non-existent is the historical proof for Jesus. Invisible to the human eye covers several otherwise observable things.
Plus of you had read this CNN story to the ancient sheep kissers who created your god myth they would probably burn you at the alter for fouling their sacred sky wizard.
You really didn't think this one through did you Dave?
That happens all the time with you we notice.
<quoted text>
You really shouldn't expend so much of your time and energy at trying to appear as intelligent, witty, and clever. You just ain't got it.

Sincerely.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#154570 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Lol! Why can't Jesus eat skittles? They keep slipping through his hands!
LOL.... What does 'INRI' stand for?

'I'm Nailed Right In".

Since: Mar 11

United States

#154571 Feb 16, 2013
A small group of volunteers in Russia who were trying to peacefully teach reason to potential Czar supporters, formed in 1929 declined to compete insignificance in 1940 and closed shop in 1947.

Churches never closed and children were made to get a proper education. Such wickedness!

But then again you being a Muslim woman have had your genitals mutilated and that has messed you up.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Sh!t what a liar you are.
Yo B talkin out yo @ss wit dis sheeeit waz yo problem N sheeeit!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Milita...
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#154572 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Many people die in war, the Russian deaths you mention we're due to political take over not atheism. The rich back then would hire huge amounts of poor people to fight for them and help protect their ill gotten wealth. The Czars for centuries had told the people that they were hand chosen by god to lead and it was all citizens duty to fight for them as they would god. It was a dastardly cowardly thing to do.
Several of the soviet generals and leaders were believers and even devout Christians. Communism and atheism are two different things.
Again nothing to do with atheism and you know it.
<quoted text>
obviously you are correct in general. I do not think that all atheists are pacifists or that all persons of faith are pro-violence, however. It is too bad that it is mostly the extremists of the far right on politics and religion represent themselves as spokesman for so called conservatism, when they are very far from being respectable conservatives. It is a usurpation both on internet and in the real world - American political and religious arguments are too vicious because the far rightwing extremists represent themselves as speaking for the conservatives. Look at Sebator Cruz, and you see and hear the memory of Senator Joe Carthy. Probably a hero of some of the rightwing extremists on topix.... but all conservatives and all Christians are not evil just because the noisy rightwing extremists have stolen the limelight and the reputatable center right is drowned out with their yelling.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#154573 Feb 16, 2013
who represent themselves. And Senator Joe
cCarty - such small print on this computer and I do need new glasses with which to proofread sorry.
Imhotep

Bartow, FL

#154574 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Mr.Morality and scholar, got a request for you.
Can you show me in the Atheist Bible where I should love my fellow man and not kill him just because I don't like him?
Here is the atheist bible as requested.

http://atheistbible.net/

Ps: I cc'd God to let her know you were back sliding again ;)
Imhotep

Bartow, FL

#154575 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Lol! Why can't Jesus eat skittles? They keep slipping through his hands!
<quoted text>
Jesus' dad

Jesus made his usual rounds in heaven when he noticed a wizened, white-haired old man sitting in a corner looking very disconsolate. The next week he was disturbed to come across him again, looking equally miserable, and a week later he stopped to talk to him.

"See here, old fellow," said Jesus kindly, "this is heaven. The sun is shining, you've got all you could want to eat, all the instruments you might want to play-- you're supposed to be blissfully happy! What's wrong?

"Well," said the old man, "you see, I was a carpenter on earth, and lost my only, dearly beloved son at an early age. And here in heaven I was hoping more than anything to find him."

"Tears sprang from Jesus' eyes. "FATHER!" he cried.

The old man jumped to his feet, bursting into tears, and sobbed, "PINOCCHIO!"
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#154576 Feb 16, 2013
there is no atheist bible, no atheist doctrine, no atheist faith. it is merely not being a theist who believes in god. a means not. it is the religious nuts who want to define atheism as anything more complex.

a smart atheist is also an agnostic and does not claim to know, but merely does not believe in that particular form of nonsense (theism). however, some theists can be nice persons. not being very smart is too bad, but still if they are nice, no reason not to be friendly to them. they were most likely brainwashed as children and not taught to reason. one can feel sorry for them, and be kind to them. just find intellectual intelligent friends who are agnostic atheists and nice as well, in order to have smart friends to talk with openly about such matters as theology. one hopes many nice persons will have strong preferences for ethcial behavior in the sense of kindness, rather than silly theistic-dominated moralistic strictures.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#154577 Feb 16, 2013
Lol! Awesome!:)
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.... What does 'INRI' stand for?
'I'm Nailed Right In".

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#154578 Feb 16, 2013
Lol I love that one, use it all the time :)
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus' dad
Jesus made his usual rounds in heaven when he noticed a wizened, white-haired old man sitting in a corner looking very disconsolate. The next week he was disturbed to come across him again, looking equally miserable, and a week later he stopped to talk to him.
"See here, old fellow," said Jesus kindly, "this is heaven. The sun is shining, you've got all you could want to eat, all the instruments you might want to play-- you're supposed to be blissfully happy! What's wrong?
"Well," said the old man, "you see, I was a carpenter on earth, and lost my only, dearly beloved son at an early age. And here in heaven I was hoping more than anything to find him."
"Tears sprang from Jesus' eyes. "FATHER!" he cried.
The old man jumped to his feet, bursting into tears, and sobbed, "PINOCCHIO!"

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#154579 Feb 16, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
there is no atheist bible, no atheist doctrine, no atheist faith.
Correct. Saying that Atheism requires as much faith as religion is like saying that abstinence is a sexual position.
One Small Bite

United States

#154580 Feb 16, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
there is no atheist bible, no atheist doctrine, no atheist faith. it is merely not being a theist who believes in god. a means not. it is the religious nuts who want to define atheism as anything more complex.

a smart atheist is also an agnostic and does not claim to know, but merely does not believe in that particular form of nonsense (theism). however, some theists can be nice persons. not being very smart is too bad, but still if they are nice, no reason not to be friendly to them. they were most likely brainwashed as children and not taught to reason. one can feel sorry for them, and be kind to them. just find intellectual intelligent friends who are agnostic atheists and nice as well, in order to have smart friends to talk with openly about such matters as theology. one hopes many nice persons will have strong preferences for ethcial behavior in the sense of kindness, rather than silly theistic-dominated moralistic strictures.
There is no atheist heaven or hell.
There is however Gods heaven and hell
And he gets to pick who goes where for ever and ever.

Atheist are like an ostrich they bury their head in the sand of science in hopes that hell will go away and not see them.

Atheist, have a nice day, because once your night comes there will be nothing more to enjoy.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#154581 Feb 16, 2013
Naturally. Hey keep the crazies out of the public square and politics and return religion to where it should be, in the private home and church and I would be happy.
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> obviously you are correct in general. I do not think that all atheists are pacifists or that all persons of faith are pro-violence, however. It is too bad that it is mostly the extremists of the far right on politics and religion represent themselves as spokesman for so called conservatism, when they are very far from being respectable conservatives. It is a usurpation both on internet and in the real world - American political and religious arguments are too vicious because the far rightwing extremists represent themselves as speaking for the conservatives. Look at Sebator Cruz, and you see and hear the memory of Senator Joe Carthy. Probably a hero of some of the rightwing extremists on topix.... but all conservatives and all Christians are not evil just because the noisy rightwing extremists have stolen the limelight and the reputatable center right is drowned out with their yelling.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#154582 Feb 16, 2013
Which shows your ignorance George Burns look alike contest winner. But we are used to when you can't refute facts stated to post one of these readers digest one liners.

All too easy.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You really shouldn't expend so much of your time and energy at trying to appear as intelligent, witty, and clever. You just ain't got it.
Sincerely.
Imhotep

Bartow, FL

#154583 Feb 16, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.... What does 'INRI' stand for?
'I'm Nailed Right In".
Jesus' dad

Jesus made his usual rounds in heaven when he noticed a wizened, white-haired old man sitting in a corner looking very disconsolate. The next week he was disturbed to come across him again, looking equally miserable, and a week later he stopped to talk to him.

"See here, old fellow," said Jesus kindly, "this is heaven. The sun is shining, you've got all you could want to eat, all the instruments you might want to play-- you're supposed to be blissfully happy! What's wrong?

"Well," said the old man, "you see, I was a carpenter on earth, and lost my only, dearly beloved son at an early age. And here in heaven I was hoping more than anything to find him."

"Tears sprang from Jesus' eyes. "FATHER!" he cried.

The old man jumped to his feet, bursting into tears, and sobbed, "PINOCCHIO!"

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#154584 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Which shows your ignorance George Burns look alike contest winner. But we are used to when you can't refute facts stated to post one of these readers digest one liners.
All too easy.
<quoted text>
Shitty personality +
Man of leisure at 32 +
Conflicts with church group in Phillipines +
Very verbal in expressing dislike for that church group +
Quite knowledgeable about the sex and pedo trade in the Phillipines +
No indication is part of any group combatting such sex and pedo trade -
Except if they are competition +
Income derived from porn sites +
Income derived from rental properties +
If rental properties=very young Filipinos +
__________

?
KJV

United States

#154585 Feb 16, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Shitty personality +
Man of leisure at 32 +
Conflicts with church group in Phillipines +
Very verbal in expressing dislike for that church group +
Quite knowledgeable about the sex and pedo trade in the Phillipines +
No indication is part of any group combatting such sex and pedo trade -
Except if they are competition +
Income derived from porn sites +
Income derived from rental properties +
If rental properties=very young Filipinos +
__________

?
Posted by Langoliers:(but I agree 100% with)

"Givemeliberty wrote:

I am especially proud of my volunteer work and donations to the humanist cause. Every year I go to the Philippines and spend thousands on food,water, clothing and medicine for the needy there. After a horrific typhoon and flooding there I was there amongst others 14 hours a day handing out supplies, giving life saving injections and treatments to those who lost their home. I stood and watched as homeless children lined up easily 3 miles deep for a package of crackers sandwich fruit and bottle of water. Unwanted children who were born because the Christian ran theocracy light government makes it nearly impossible for a woman to obtain birth control. My wife is in pre-med classes and wants to practice medicine there free to help those poor children. Here in the states I collect donations for running in marathons with the money going to children's charities and cancer or HIV awareness programs.
I have seen first hand time and time again the damage and heart breaking situations brought on by theists. The same theists who come crawling to us to help fix their mess! Oh but while we are fixing it are we thanked? Nope. We barely get the figurative broom in hand and they are shrieking at us for not believing in their imaginary friend.
Honor? I guess it is a relative term. The dozen of urban low income students I assist for free with their biology and pharmaceutical homework at two different colleges locally would probably say good ole KJ is an alright dude.
Now if coming on topix and giving the theists a little taste of backbone, the theists who try to intimidate and silence non believers because they think we should all be meek and humble and tolerate their abuse and repeated logical fallacies makes me vile, Without reason, Disrespectful, In someone's opinion? So be it, hmmm I will chuckle about how vile And disrespectful I am Friday at U of L for the 6 hours I am assisting the students there as a volunteer. Or perhaps this summer as I am passing out thousands of dollars worth of free medicine and other essentials trying to save some more homeless from dying. Yes I was walking by a group of people there and they were huddled together praying loudly and crying. I looked in and a young girl was on the ground dying of dehydration. Instead of getting her water and rushing her to the hospital they stood there holding hands and praying! I grabbed my cell phone and called for an ambulance and started trying to get her to drink. Slowly she sipped the water as the praying continued. The ambulance came after almost an hour and reluctantly took her to the hospital, the paramedic said she was good as dead and best leave it in the hands of Jesus same thing the crowd thought. She died 18 hours later. They didn't even know her name and couldn't figure it out.
I guess I'll somehow deal with being called disrespectful.
<quoted text>

"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "

OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!

You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!

Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!

Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!

Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family"

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#154586 Feb 16, 2013
I think he stepped on his Johnson.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Posted by Langoliers:(but I agree 100% with)
"Givemeliberty wrote:
I am especially proud of my volunteer work and donations to the humanist cause. Every year I go to the Philippines and spend thousands on food,water, clothing and medicine for the needy there. After a horrific typhoon and flooding there I was there amongst others 14 hours a day handing out supplies, giving life saving injections and treatments to those who lost their home. I stood and watched as homeless children lined up easily 3 miles deep for a package of crackers sandwich fruit and bottle of water. Unwanted children who were born because the Christian ran theocracy light government makes it nearly impossible for a woman to obtain birth control. My wife is in pre-med classes and wants to practice medicine there free to help those poor children. Here in the states I collect donations for running in marathons with the money going to children's charities and cancer or HIV awareness programs.
I have seen first hand time and time again the damage and heart breaking situations brought on by theists. The same theists who come crawling to us to help fix their mess! Oh but while we are fixing it are we thanked? Nope. We barely get the figurative broom in hand and they are shrieking at us for not believing in their imaginary friend.
Honor? I guess it is a relative term. The dozen of urban low income students I assist for free with their biology and pharmaceutical homework at two different colleges locally would probably say good ole KJ is an alright dude.
Now if coming on topix and giving the theists a little taste of backbone, the theists who try to intimidate and silence non believers because they think we should all be meek and humble and tolerate their abuse and repeated logical fallacies makes me vile, Without reason, Disrespectful, In someone's opinion? So be it, hmmm I will chuckle about how vile And disrespectful I am Friday at U of L for the 6 hours I am assisting the students there as a volunteer. Or perhaps this summer as I am passing out thousands of dollars worth of free medicine and other essentials trying to save some more homeless from dying. Yes I was walking by a group of people there and they were huddled together praying loudly and crying. I looked in and a young girl was on the ground dying of dehydration. Instead of getting her water and rushing her to the hospital they stood there holding hands and praying! I grabbed my cell phone and called for an ambulance and started trying to get her to drink. Slowly she sipped the water as the praying continued. The ambulance came after almost an hour and reluctantly took her to the hospital, the paramedic said she was good as dead and best leave it in the hands of Jesus same thing the crowd thought. She died 18 hours later. They didn't even know her name and couldn't figure it out.
I guess I'll somehow deal with being called disrespectful.
<quoted text>
"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "
OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!
You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!
Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family"

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154587 Feb 16, 2013
Turkey wrote:
<quoted text> I nominate Dave for nobel prize. Or perhaps Buck and Dave in collaboration for nobel prize.
Obama got one... Anyone can.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154588 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
We can't even say he existed.
<quoted text>
"We"?!

Oh, you & your retarded Topix atheists buddies.

Ya.

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