Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Dave Nelson wrote:
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"An atheist doesnít have to be someone who thinks"
I can accept that.
Any more truths you have to post?
'Out of context'! You should know better!

You must be - another Fox News addict!

Try again. ;)
An atheist doesnít have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there canít be a god.
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Right! And they are not allowed to ask any questions! And if they do, they must accept the answer, no matter how stupid.
Smirk. ;)

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.
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Mike Murdock is one of my all time favorites! Another is Dr. Gene Scott!
Lucky for us, Scott is dead!
Excerpt:

Bob Jones: Big-mouthed Bigot from the Boondocks

The son of a Confederate soldier and Alabama sharecropper, the young and poorly educated Bob Jones (1883-1968) discovered a youthful talent for memorizing scripture.

With a natural flair for oratory, the "boy preacher" warmed the hearts and softened the brains of the yokels. At 15 Bob was already an itinerant Methodist and on his way to Jesus loot, an enterprise he continued for half a century, until upstaged by the new boy on the block and dangerous liberal, Billy Graham.

Proudly intolerant, Jones was a racist, anti-Catholic, anti-Darwinian, who supported the Klan. In 1927, with the tide of history moving against religious reactionaries, BJ put money into the Bob Jones College (later University), the purpose of which was to train missionaries and teach the "Christian alternative" to reality.

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Thank God.

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Thank atheists.(one day off out of ten}

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Feb 16, 2013
 
Are you for real George Burns look a like? Seriously? The French Revolution??

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahaha!

Thanks again for confirming you have been a Christian all along. I don't think anyone was buying the former atheist turned deist lie you were telling on here.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W orkweek_and_weekend
Thank God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolutio...
Thank atheists.(one day off out of ten}

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My GOD said 4 + 4 = 8. Your god did not answer. Maybe he is busy somewhere else?
I think he doesn't speak sh*thead.

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/tech/innovation...

Topix atheists will not see the weakness in their methodology. They will immediately fall to the floor and genuflect to these scientists.

Instead of using their brains, they smash things and sift through the pieces looking for clues, when they already have enough.

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Feb 16, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/ tech/innovation/science-explor ation/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Topix atheists will not see the weakness in their methodology. They will immediately fall to the floor and genuflect to these scientists.
Instead of using their brains, they smash things and sift through the pieces looking for clues, when they already have enough.
Sh*t the f*ck up you creationist sh*thead.
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You think condoms will help you score more in public restrooms?
Obsess much? Desperate?
You are quite reality challenged but provide a glimpse into a disturbed mind. ;)

Your church should anoint you!

Hmm...
Have you noticed the invisible and non-existent look very much alike?

Cmon... your behavior reveals a misplaced pride in punctuating each post with nonsense - step up to the plate for Jesus, defend his many cults, Mormons have a more recent prophet, Joe had more news from???

Christians are unintentionally hilarious, you being a prime example.

No offence Davep
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Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/ tech/innovation/science-explor ation/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Topix atheists will not see the weakness in their methodology. They will immediately fall to the floor and genuflect to these scientists.
Instead of using their brains, they smash things and sift through the pieces looking for clues, when they already have enough.
Gods pre-Easter sale!

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...
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Sh*t the f*ck up you creationist sh*thead.
Nope, thats not proof that God doesnt exist.
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And yes I said so!
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You dripping bag of medical waste

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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See? You're not a freethinker. You're indoctrinated or brainwashed to think that something is not possibl unless there is evidence for it.
I don't *believe* something is possible until I see evidence of it. It is always possible new evidence will come up. But when many people over a lot of time have searched and not found anything pointing in a certain direction, I feel comfortable ignoring that possibility, at least until some dramatic evidence appears.

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Imhotep wrote:
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Obsess much? Desperate?
You are quite reality challenged but provide a glimpse into a disturbed mind. ;)
Your church should anoint you!
Hmm...
Have you noticed the invisible and non-existent look very much alike?
Cmon... your behavior reveals a misplaced pride in punctuating each post with nonsense - step up to the plate for Jesus, defend his many cults, Mormons have a more recent prophet, Joe had more news from???
Christians are unintentionally hilarious, you being a prime example.
No offence Davep
"Hmm...
Have you noticed the invisible and non-existent look very much alike?"

Hmmm...

"What the universe is made of

Over the last few decades, scientists have come to the conclusion that the universe's composition is only about 5% atoms -- in other words, the stuff that we see and know around us. That means the rest is stuff we can't see. About 71% is something called "dark energy," and another 24% is "dark matter."
2011: Closing in on the 'God particle'
Why is the 'God particle' a big deal?
Why is the 'God particle' a big deal?
2010: World's biggest science experiment
Festival aims to make science 'cool'

Research is ongoing to figure out precisely what these "dark" components are, because they do not interact with ordinary matter and have never been directly detected."

""You can think of it as a kind of molasses-like bath that's invisible, but yet we're all immersed within it," he said. "And as particles like electrons try to move through the molasses-like bath, they experience a resistance. And that resistance is what we, in our big everyday world, think of as the mass of the electron.""

From that article I posted.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/16/tech/innovation...

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In the pursuit of a totalitarian state learn the difference. Stalin sunk a fortune into his cherished Russian Orthodox Church as you have been shown and is to this day as back then considered a hero and saint to them. He killed people who his delusions told him was plannin his assassination. Nothing to do with atheism. And you know this. All of your examples are due to totalitarian states nothing to do with atheism. Unlike hitler who said he was going to punish the Christ killer Jews.
The reign of terror in the French Revolution had to do with dethroning a king and killing his cronies. The overwhelming majority of those people were devout Christians. Note there were certain priests marked for death but not all of them. Actually only a small handful.
Again nothing to do with atheism whatsoever.
And you know it.
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What you are saying is not what history is saying.

Almost immediately after they seized power, Lenin's Bolsheviks inaugurated an endless stream of economic decrees and policies. These proved to be disastrous, resulting in a horrific famine, depopulation of the cities, and an enormous decline in living standards.

But the greatest crime committed by Lenin's regime was the civil war the Soviet government waged against the peasantry, and the famine this war precipitated.

Needless to say, Lenin had no plans to respect the freedom of religion.

But until the famine, most of the persecution of religion appears to have been taken on local initiative. Most religious property was ordered expropriated, although in fact clergymen usually continued to occupy and use their church buildings. Parents lost the right to give their children religious education - although again, during the Civil War years, this does not seem to have been enforced.(Interestingly, while the state subsidies to the church greatly declined, the Orthodox Church under Lenin essentially remained a bureau of the state).

Serious government persecution of the Orthodox Church began with the famine, which gave Lenin the chance to bring the Orthodox Church into line. He demanded that the Church hand over valuable relics to help famine victims (or so he said). The Church resisted, resulting in around 8000 executions of persons resisting the confiscation of relics. Similar but milder persecution began against Jews, Catholics, and to a lesser extent, Muslims.(These religions, however, had less to lose than the Orthodox Church, because they had no subsidies for the Bolsheviks to cut off).

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Why do Topix atheists have shit for brains?

Because they have their heads up their ass.

Just a little truthful humor this morning.:-)

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Dave Nelson wrote:
This is modern theoretical physics. Computer simulations built upon pre-conceived math models.
Again, you don't even understand what you posted. They use the distributed computing to figure out how the magnetic guiding the particles should be adjusted to hit the targets in the way we want. This is a massive computational problem. Finding the optimal settings can mean reduced cost because fewer magnets are required for the same target.
Smash and see if it splatters they way you think it will. If not, smash again. They do that with a lot of physics things. HAARP for one. Push the envelope.
Mathematics has been part of physics since before Newton. All that we are now doing is using computers to help us with the calculations, so we can do much more complicated calculations. We *still* need to test the predictions against the real world. That is how we figure out which model is more correct.

The point is that we have several different competing models for particle physics and each one needs to make predictions of *exactly* what would be seen if that model is correct. This isn't a simple 2+2=4 type of calculation so a lot of computing power is required.

T
he paragraph after that quoted deals with the concerns about doomsday. They assured it wouldn't happen. If they had that much knowledge about reactions, why did the need such am expensive machine?
Just say no to mad scientists.
Once again, the theoretical models have to be tested. The Higg's boson, for example, was a purely theoretical construction inside one particular model. The model was unable to predict its mass, but was able to predict how it interacted with other particles once the mass is known. So we do the computations of all the interactions with different masses. Then we actually run the machine to see what happens: do we see anything at all? If so, what is its mass? Are the predictions we did based on that mass accurate in the real world? Which models were eliminated and which still survive?

Until you get the idea that theoretical mathematical models are a good thing because they allow precise predictions that can then be tested, you will never understand how science is and should be done.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"Prayer works"
Show you?
You're asking a person on the internet to show you?
Are you praying to said person on the internet?
Only God can show you that prayer works, you'll have to ask Him.
Evidence comes before belief. Using prayer as a proof of God requires that prayer work before a belief in God.

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The pain & agony of what a human torture & death feels like.
Which he knew would end in a few hours and that he would live through it. Again, not much of a sacrifice.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
In the pursuit of a totalitarian state learn the difference. Stalin sunk a fortune into his cherished Russian Orthodox Church as you have been shown and is to this day as back then considered a hero and saint to them. He killed people who his delusions told him was plannin his assassination. Nothing to do with atheism. And you know this. All of your examples are due to totalitarian states nothing to do with atheism. Unlike hitler who said he was going to punish the Christ killer Jews.
The reign of terror in the French Revolution had to do with dethroning a king and killing his cronies. The overwhelming majority of those people were devout Christians. Note there were certain priests marked for death but not all of them. Actually only a small handful.
Again nothing to do with atheism whatsoever.
And you know it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_un...

Main articles: Red Terror, Decossackization, and Lenin's Hanging Order

During the Russian Civil War, both sides unleashed terror campaigns (the Red and White Terrors). The Red Terror culminated in the summary execution of tens of thousands of "enemies of the people" by the political police, the Cheka.[copyright violation?][volume & issue needed]

Many victims were 'bourgeois hostages' rounded up and held in readiness for summary execution in reprisal for any alleged counter-revolutionary provocation. Many were put to death during and after the suppression of revolts, such as the Kronstadt rebellion and the Tambov Rebellion. Professor Donald Rayfield claims that "the repression that followed the rebellions in Kronstadt and Tambov alone resulted in tens of thousands of executions." A large number of Orthodox clergymen were also killed.

The policy of decossackization amounted to an attempt by Soviet leaders to "eliminate, exterminate, and deport the population of a whole territory," according to Nicolas Werth. In the early months of 1919, some 10,000 to 12,000 Cossacks were executed][verification needed] and many more deported after their villages were razed to the ground.

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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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LOL! I did not tell my teacher that it was 9, she told me. Back then, an elementary student did not talk back or contradict the teacher.
She taught us that we should question authority.
The next Sunday, when I was in Sunday school, I started asking all those questions that I had and was afraid to ask.
After a few questions, the teacher got a bit upset and told me not to question god. I was sent to the preacher who very quickly told me the same thing.
Is your god afraid of questions form a fifth grader?
If you breed a cat. You get a cat.

If you breed a dog. You get a dog.

If you breed a stupe. You get a stupe.

It sounds like a stupe was teaching a stupe.

Please tell us you didn't reproduce.

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