Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154635 Feb 16, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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WAG
WTF?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154636 Feb 16, 2013
There are Christians that don't believe in Jesus? Lmfao!!

Actually most non trinitarians will answer Yahweh, Jehovah, El or pick an OT version of the name.

As usual you are wrong.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*sigh*
Ask a Christian that believes in Jesus "which god?" & they'll answer "God".
Ask a Christian that doesn't believe in Jesus "which god?" & they'll answer "God".
Very simple to deduce.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154637 Feb 16, 2013
Not to mention the Jospehus and Tacitus passage are outrageous Christian forgeries not appearing until centuries later.
Imhotep wrote:
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This is much smaller ;)
Supposed Jesus witnesses
Josephus - Born 37 CE
Phlegon - Born about 80 CE
Tacitus - Born 56 CE
Pliny the Younger - Born 61 CE
Suetonious - Born about 69 CE
The Babylonian Talmud - 200CE
Lucian - Born 125 CE
Phlegon - 2nd century
How exactly are these guys witnesses to something that happened before they were even born?
Hearsay isn't admissible in court for a reason ;)
Tacitus was born in 56 CE, more than two decades after the alleged execution.
In fact, his writings about Jesus were done in 116 CE. This cannot be anything but 3rd hand (if not 4th or 5th) retelling, and the historical validity of the tale is therefore nil.
Since he was the first to write about it, where did he get the info? Surely not from earlier writings, right?
Those 'scholars' are therefore speaking through their hat.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154638 Feb 16, 2013
From the exact same wiki page posted previously.

Sheesh you are awful at this Daffy.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Please supply all of your sources.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154639 Feb 16, 2013
So repeating what someone says without a shred of you finding errors or mistakes is the bet you chumps can do?
KJV wrote:
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What again? LOL
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Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family"

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154640 Feb 16, 2013
How about instead of typing in militant atheism or state atheism you instead search history of the Soviet Union or Lenin or Stalin whatever and actually read about the subjects. Shut off the faux news and actually learn something. Maybe even ... Gasp!! Read what some actual Russian people have to say about the subjects, you know people who actually lived there? Crazy I know!
Eagle12 wrote:
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Please supply sources.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154641 Feb 16, 2013
I know that's what I was thinking. Only an idiot would even suggest such a thing.
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I am not stupid enough to put my last quarter in a slot machine.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154644 Feb 16, 2013
You think Russia extended into Africa?

Alrighty then.
Phd One Million 1 wrote:
<quoted text>So,which Russians? The Asian Russians, Slovics, Christian, Black African Russians, Armenian or the ones that fled to America. My friends, the latter. Crazy, huh!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154645 Feb 16, 2013
Aww the George Burns look alike and Daffy are unable to disprove me so instead they are going to bleat together. Angry bleating but the bleating of a broken loser.

I humbly accept your surrender.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Probably has more issues than just that.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#154646 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You think Russia extended into Africa?
Alrighty then.
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Them NAMBLA guys ain't too bright ya know.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154647 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
How about instead of typing in militant atheism or state atheism you instead search history of the Soviet Union or Lenin or Stalin whatever and actually read about the subjects. Shut off the faux news and actually learn something. Maybe even ... Gasp!! Read what some actual Russian people have to say about the subjects, you know people who actually lived there? Crazy I know!
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Please supply sources.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154648 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Not to mention the Jospehus and Tacitus passage are outrageous Christian forgeries not appearing until centuries later.
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Proof?

You make lots of absurd claims but you never can back them up.

I will not accept garbage from an Atheist web site that doesn’t have documented proof to their claims.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154650 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
From the exact same wiki page posted previously.
Sheesh you are awful at this Daffy.
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You can't supply proof can you?

Just keep dancing around the question.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154651 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Not to mention the Jospehus and Tacitus passage are outrageous Christian forgeries not appearing until centuries later.
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Show us your proof.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154652 Feb 16, 2013
Even your hero Bart Erhman states the Josephus and Tacitus passages are forged.

Many Christian scholars pastors and priests say to avoid using Tacitus at all costs because he would never refer to jesus as Christ, and even educated believers admit the Jospehus line is forged but how much is it forged?
Links from several sources have been provided umpteenth times Daffy and you know it.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Proof?
You make lots of absurd claims but you never can back them up.
I will not accept garbage from an Atheist web site that doesn’t have documented proof to their claims.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#154653 Feb 16, 2013
Provide your sources on your claims once in a while Daffy!

Lmfao!
Eagle12 wrote:
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Please supply sources.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154654 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So repeating what someone says without a shred of you finding errors or mistakes is the bet you chumps can do?
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Fabrications from you are acknowledged. You are prone to say anything and claim it as a fact. When asked for proof you just side step the question. Your opinions, hunches and guesses is considered not proof.

You have made so many deceitful statements it’s hard to believe anything you say. Why is untruthfulness a mainstay of your persona? Do Atheist embrace lying as being ok? Or is this just something unique to you?

We talked about a moral code among Atheist and where does it come from. I think some Atheist are honest but I don’t believe you are one of them. Your track record here on topix shows it. I have to ask myself what is your incentive to tell the truth?

You don’t care about your image here. You’re not worried about answering to a higher power about all your lying. So what the heck, you just lie and claim it as the truth. Hoping that the audience and regulars won’t notice. This is going to be a hell of a shock to you, we notice.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154655 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Even your hero Bart Erhman states the Josephus and Tacitus passages are forged.
Many Christian scholars pastors and priests say to avoid using Tacitus at all costs because he would never refer to jesus as Christ, and even educated believers admit the Jospehus line is forged but how much is it forged?
Links from several sources have been provided umpteenth times Daffy and you know it.
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Again you supply no sources.

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[

The term "Christ myth theory" is an umbrella term that applies to a range of arguments that in one way or another question the authenticity of the existence of Jesus or the essential elements of his life as described in the Christian gospels. Among the variants of the Jesus myth theory, the notion that Jesus never existed has little scholarly support, and although some modern scholars adhere to it, they remain a distinct minority; virtually all scholars involved with historical Jesus research believe that his existence can be established

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_J...

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154656 Feb 16, 2013
Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.

the notion that Jesus never existed has little scholarly support, and although some modern scholars adhere to it, they remain a distinct minority;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_J ...

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#154657 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Not to mention the Jospehus and Tacitus passage are outrageous Christian forgeries not appearing until centuries later.
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Josephus was apparently been altered from the original.

Tacitus is probably close to pristine, he simply documented what people said, not that what they said were actually facts.

Let us remember that if we use a criteria to "debunk" Christian documents then we must use the same criteria for all ancient texts. The result would be the elimination of most of human history.

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