Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Ditat Deus”

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#154154 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
The Catholics (lobbying by the Knights of Columbus) changes us from "on nation indivisable" to one nation divided by god. But driving a wedge into our secular government is something Catholics have been wanting to do since our inception.
It's people like you that think we're divided. We ARE one nation - indivisable.

It doesn't matter what an AMerican's religion - or lack thereof - is, we're all Americans and all out for very similar goals.

Stop trying to divide us.

It's a shame you don't see that.

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#154155 Feb 14, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Meh…. the religitards will only start a new thread entitled "Nullafidians require as much faith as religion." They're funny like that.
And the athitards will be knocking at the door saying "Nu-uh!"

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#154156 Feb 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Pascal's wager? Seriously?
Wow this is the best these idiots can do. What happens if you pick the wrong deity? There are only thousands of them and picking wrong is just as bad. Your god is just as invalid to someone of another faith as their god is invalid to you.
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I might have to take you first...

I hope Dave's OK with sloppy seconds.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#154157 Feb 14, 2013
Well he may have met his new chunky bride, Buck.
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>And yet here you are. Weird.

“Ditat Deus”

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#154158 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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American tradition? When I was born, "god" wasn't in our pledge nor on our money. That's American tradition.
Wow, you're really old....

The first example of "In God We Trust" was on a two cent coin, Congress signed the law on April 22, 1864. It first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.

In 1865, the motto was placed on the gold double-eagle coin, the gold eagle coin, and the gold half-eagle coin. It was also placed on the silver dollar coin, the half-dollar coin and the quarter-dollar coin, and on the nickel three-cent coin beginning in 1866.

Since 1938, all United States coins bear the inscription.

THAT is American tradition, son.

“Ditat Deus”

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#154159 Feb 14, 2013
Oh. Here, so you athitards know I didn't get that "in God We Trust" coin info from a religious website.

www.treasury.gov › Home › About › Education

Losers.

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#154160 Feb 14, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, people are emotional creatures. Now provide some scientific evidence that #1.) There is a higher power...and #2) That it created a scheme of any kind. Good Luck with that GODBOT.
Some push buttons some move slides, some press keys, some draw bows, some pluck strings, of course you would know this if you weren't completely illiterate musically, and would never embarrass yourself by claiming all they do is "PUSH BUTTONS. Actually there are very few instruments were buttons are "pushed." Dumb ass!
I never had to march, always either a soloists or in a section. Shit for brains there are no instruments that you PUMP!!! Accordion maybe, but thats a reach, and not in a marching band. You don't know shit about music do you....admit it ands save yourself some serious embarrassment.
You dance, too.:-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_organ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox

Was TDY in Joliet, IL where there was a guy that played something called an accordiovox or something in a lounge. One man band. Knocked out some great rock and polkas. Did Proud Mary real well. I did a lot of dancing there. Drunk, usually. Well, always.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#154162 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I asked a very simple question that you didn't answer.
What part of ToE is evidenced?
There's no evidence of abiogenesis, no evidence of spontaneous life, no evidence of fish transforming to mammals, no evidence of bacteria becoming birds.
We haven't even cataloged all the existing life on Earth, how is it thought that we know what life existed billions of years ago?
Know it before you preach it.
No, I answered you. You just couldn't understand it.

What I said was "over 150 years of research by scientists in all the Earth sciences from all over the world working within all different sociopolitical cultures we have gathered enough evidence for all the different aspect of biological evolution that to withhold tacit approval for this theory would be unreasonable."

You want to learn biology, go back to school, and this time pay attention. Considering your level of questions, you should probably start with middle school Earth sciences. Or maybe even a basic class explaining what science really is.

You want me to teach you? No. Unless we spend a few year going through all the evidence, you'll just keep spouting "not enough" BS. There are literally museums full of this evidence, all over the world. Go to school, take classes, pass test, and then, maybe, you'll know enough that at least your questions will make sense.

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#154163 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I might have to take you first...
I hope Dave's OK with sloppy seconds.
I have no problem with sharing Sweet Cheeks. I wouldn't ride him/her/it bareback.

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#154164 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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YOu seem to have missed the central portion of that post...... Here:
You see, that's how democracy works. A ballot or measure or law or something like that is put out there for all the people to vote, if the people vote this way or that, you just have to live with it.
There are plenty of new laws that I do not agree with, but I have to live with them because they are now law.
I didn't miss anything. Your statement that we can't blame people who create bad legislation is flat-out dumb.

Since: Feb 13

Fishers, IN

#154165 Feb 14, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Meh…. the religitards will only start a new thread entitled "Nullafidians require as much faith as religion." They're funny like that.
Maybe just to emphasize the no beliefs thing, I'll start calling myself a nulla-nada-zero-zilch-fidian?

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#154167 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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What, you figure you throw enough crap on the wall, something might stick?
Well, none of your crap does --
1. Abiogenesis is biochemistry. Evolution is biology. I know, over your head. Oh well.
2. Cosmology and astrophysics are also NOT biology. Again, obviously over your head.
3. "order out of chaos" is exactly what happens when you shake up oil and water and then let it settle. So, again, you haven't a clue. If what you are lamely trying to argue is the 2nd law of thermodynamics (or any of them), your question is laughably pathetic and you really should study (a lot) before posting more stupidity.
4. Did you miss the part about rigorously testable being a measure of science? You want ID to be considered, show us the independently verified rigorous tests. Oh that's right, the Design Institute puts all of it's money into mass marketing of stupid ideas and none into testing because they know what the results would be ... and you wouldn't like it.
You prove life can be initiated from raw chemicals first.

They have been trying for thousands of years.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#154168 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Wow, you're really old....
The first example of "In God We Trust" was on a two cent coin, Congress signed the law on April 22, 1864. It first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.
In 1865, the motto was placed on the gold double-eagle coin, the gold eagle coin, and the gold half-eagle coin. It was also placed on the silver dollar coin, the half-dollar coin and the quarter-dollar coin, and on the nickel three-cent coin beginning in 1866.
Since 1938, all United States coins bear the inscription.
THAT is American tradition, son.
It was not codified until 1956 as a change to our motto from "e pluribus unum" -- out of many we become one. I guess that was too inclusive for you.
Lincoln

United States

#154169 Feb 14, 2013
Twentieth century atheists in power resulted in mass murder.

Mao
Zinoviev
Kaminev
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky

No wonder neither political party nominated atheists for president.!

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#154170 Feb 14, 2013
Darth Bob wrote:
Dave Nelson,
I mostly agree with you. At this point, abiogenesis does not have sufficient evidence to support it. Evolution itself is easily demonstrated through various means. But exactly how life began is still a bit of a mystery.
I am no expert on the topic, however my understanding is that order does at times arise from chaos. There is not yet a rigidly mathematical model of how this occurs, at least so far as I am aware. But there are things like Lorentz attractors, the Mandelbrot set, cellular automata, and so on that shed some light on the subject.
There are no verified recorded accounts of life ever appearing spontaneously. Lots of rumors, but science has always poo poohed them.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154171 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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There are two types of Topix atheist. Generically speaking.
You have those that are so enamored with the technical aspects of existence that they lost sight of the greater picture and kind of blunder about in a maze they can't get out of. A jeweler's loupe is a great device, but you don't want to walk around with it on.
Then you have those with the technical aspects rattling around loose in the case.
Get you a tube. Have a friend or someone to assist you.
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/threadlocking-...
Well said, lol,:)
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#154172 Feb 14, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Twentieth century atheists in power resulted in mass murder.
Mao
Zinoviev
Kaminev
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky
No wonder neither political party nominated atheists for president.!
None of their actions were motivated by atheism and none would have been any better for being religious.
Religion = superstition

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#154173 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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No, I answered you. You just couldn't understand it.
What I said was "over 150 years of research by scientists in all the Earth sciences from all over the world working within all different sociopolitical cultures we have gathered enough evidence for all the different aspect of biological evolution that to withhold tacit approval for this theory would be unreasonable."
You want to learn biology, go back to school, and this time pay attention. Considering your level of questions, you should probably start with middle school Earth sciences. Or maybe even a basic class explaining what science really is.
You want me to teach you? No. Unless we spend a few year going through all the evidence, you'll just keep spouting "not enough" BS. There are literally museums full of this evidence, all over the world. Go to school, take classes, pass test, and then, maybe, you'll know enough that at least your questions will make sense.
You could've just said "I can't answer that. All I know is that scientists says it's true & I believe them."

It would've been the same thing...

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#154174 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I have no problem with sharing Sweet Cheeks. I wouldn't ride him/her/it bareback.
LMAO!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#154175 Feb 14, 2013
Can you prove life didn't originate by completely natural devices?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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There are no verified recorded accounts of life ever appearing spontaneously. Lots of rumors, but science has always poo poohed them.

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