Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154167 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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What, you figure you throw enough crap on the wall, something might stick?
Well, none of your crap does --
1. Abiogenesis is biochemistry. Evolution is biology. I know, over your head. Oh well.
2. Cosmology and astrophysics are also NOT biology. Again, obviously over your head.
3. "order out of chaos" is exactly what happens when you shake up oil and water and then let it settle. So, again, you haven't a clue. If what you are lamely trying to argue is the 2nd law of thermodynamics (or any of them), your question is laughably pathetic and you really should study (a lot) before posting more stupidity.
4. Did you miss the part about rigorously testable being a measure of science? You want ID to be considered, show us the independently verified rigorous tests. Oh that's right, the Design Institute puts all of it's money into mass marketing of stupid ideas and none into testing because they know what the results would be ... and you wouldn't like it.
You prove life can be initiated from raw chemicals first.

They have been trying for thousands of years.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#154168 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Wow, you're really old....
The first example of "In God We Trust" was on a two cent coin, Congress signed the law on April 22, 1864. It first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.
In 1865, the motto was placed on the gold double-eagle coin, the gold eagle coin, and the gold half-eagle coin. It was also placed on the silver dollar coin, the half-dollar coin and the quarter-dollar coin, and on the nickel three-cent coin beginning in 1866.
Since 1938, all United States coins bear the inscription.
THAT is American tradition, son.
It was not codified until 1956 as a change to our motto from "e pluribus unum" -- out of many we become one. I guess that was too inclusive for you.
Lincoln

United States

#154169 Feb 14, 2013
Twentieth century atheists in power resulted in mass murder.

Mao
Zinoviev
Kaminev
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky

No wonder neither political party nominated atheists for president.!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154170 Feb 14, 2013
Darth Bob wrote:
Dave Nelson,
I mostly agree with you. At this point, abiogenesis does not have sufficient evidence to support it. Evolution itself is easily demonstrated through various means. But exactly how life began is still a bit of a mystery.
I am no expert on the topic, however my understanding is that order does at times arise from chaos. There is not yet a rigidly mathematical model of how this occurs, at least so far as I am aware. But there are things like Lorentz attractors, the Mandelbrot set, cellular automata, and so on that shed some light on the subject.
There are no verified recorded accounts of life ever appearing spontaneously. Lots of rumors, but science has always poo poohed them.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154171 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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There are two types of Topix atheist. Generically speaking.
You have those that are so enamored with the technical aspects of existence that they lost sight of the greater picture and kind of blunder about in a maze they can't get out of. A jeweler's loupe is a great device, but you don't want to walk around with it on.
Then you have those with the technical aspects rattling around loose in the case.
Get you a tube. Have a friend or someone to assist you.
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/threadlocking-...
Well said, lol,:)
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#154172 Feb 14, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Twentieth century atheists in power resulted in mass murder.
Mao
Zinoviev
Kaminev
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky
No wonder neither political party nominated atheists for president.!
None of their actions were motivated by atheism and none would have been any better for being religious.
Religion = superstition

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154173 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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No, I answered you. You just couldn't understand it.
What I said was "over 150 years of research by scientists in all the Earth sciences from all over the world working within all different sociopolitical cultures we have gathered enough evidence for all the different aspect of biological evolution that to withhold tacit approval for this theory would be unreasonable."
You want to learn biology, go back to school, and this time pay attention. Considering your level of questions, you should probably start with middle school Earth sciences. Or maybe even a basic class explaining what science really is.
You want me to teach you? No. Unless we spend a few year going through all the evidence, you'll just keep spouting "not enough" BS. There are literally museums full of this evidence, all over the world. Go to school, take classes, pass test, and then, maybe, you'll know enough that at least your questions will make sense.
You could've just said "I can't answer that. All I know is that scientists says it's true & I believe them."

It would've been the same thing...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154174 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I have no problem with sharing Sweet Cheeks. I wouldn't ride him/her/it bareback.
LMAO!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#154175 Feb 14, 2013
Can you prove life didn't originate by completely natural devices?
Dave Nelson wrote:
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There are no verified recorded accounts of life ever appearing spontaneously. Lots of rumors, but science has always poo poohed them.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154176 Feb 14, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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I didn't miss anything. Your statement that we can't blame people who create bad legislation is flat-out dumb.
What bad legislation are you referring to?

Since: Dec 12

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#154177 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Other than the feeble atheist argument of "You can't prove it", you've got nothing.
Again, I'm not atheist, and you STILL can't prove what you said is true.

Mylan:2 - Redneck: 0

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154178 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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It was not codified until 1956 as a change to our motto from "e pluribus unum" -- out of many we become one. I guess that was too inclusive for you.
Sorry, bucko. It first started on our coins in 1864.

"The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War."

www.treasury.gov ›Home›About›Education
CunningLinguist

Kissimmee, FL

#154179 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Topix atheists make me sick. They make any human being that wants to live a life sick.
They want to impose their mechanistic uninspiring dull nothingness on all life. A soulless existence for all because they lack one. Wanting everyone to live in the dark because they can't stand the light.
They should be locked up and forced to listen to Pavarotti 24/7 for 6 months.
We know Religion is a myth, you (closet hypocrite) suspect it yourself or you would not be reading content found in atheist forums. Jesus has his eye on you in particular David.

Your problem is simply RELIGION

The Christian view that all intercourse outside marriage is immoral was based upon the view that all sexual intercourse, even within marriage, is regrettable.

A view of this sort, which goes against biological facts, can only be regarded by some people as a morbid aberration. The fact that it is embedded in Christian ethics has made Christianity throughout its whole history a force tending towards mental disorders and unwholesome views of life.

The Church had devastating impact upon society. As the Church assumed leadership, activity in the fields of medicine, technology, science, education, history, art and commerce all but collapsed.

Technology disappeared and the Church became the most cohesive power in Western society. The extensive aqueduct and plumbing systems vanished.

Orthodox Christians taught that all aspects of the flesh should be reviled and therefore discouraged washing as much as possible.

Toilets and indoor plumbing disappeared. Disease became commonplace as sanitation and hygiene deteriorated. For hundreds of years, towns and villages were decimated by epidemics.

Europe entered the Dark Ages.

“Organised religion is violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children.”
~Christopher Hitchens

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154180 Feb 14, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Twentieth century atheists in power resulted in mass murder.
Mao
Zinoviev
Kaminev
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky
No wonder neither political party nominated atheists for president.!
If an Atheist is responsible for mass murder it’s perfectly fine according to Atheist.

If it’s someone masquerading as a Christian then it’s horrendous. This is why they never mention these Atheist Leaders you mentioned. They’re ok with it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154181 Feb 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Can you prove life didn't originate by completely natural devices?
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Can anybody?

Nope.

Since: Dec 12

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#154182 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I said American tradition, HoneyBooBoo, not Christian tradition....
Hey numb nutz, I said ANY tradition, which... oh yeah HoneyBooBoo.... that would include American traditions too.

Moron.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154183 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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It was not codified until 1956 as a change to our motto from "e pluribus unum" -- out of many we become one. I guess that was too inclusive for you.
Here's a better link for ya:

http://www.treasury.gov/about/education/Pages...

Oh ya, you're still wrong, by about 100 years.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154184 Feb 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Can you prove life didn't originate by completely natural devices?
<quoted text>
The fact scientist have not been able to see life self create from sterile soil and rocks is enough proof. It has not happened in laboratory experiments. It hasn’t happened on Mars or anywhere in the cosmos.

Since: Dec 12

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#154185 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Too bad for you that you don't understand that science & religion are partners.
Yeah, kind of like fire and gasoline. Hahahaha...

Since: Dec 11

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#154186 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What bad legislation are you referring to?
ANY bad legislation.

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