Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Still no proof of god, give up Dave, your creationist ways are finished and your cult is dead.
You are amusing if nothing else.

Prove something for me to prove your proof of proof is provable.

Prove that a creative force MUST prove itself to a creation it made in a way that creation has to understand.

Let's say you are a computer engineer that designs and builds a computer with a rather high degree of logic and analytic programming in it. Plus the hardware to realize such.

Does your computer know you exist? Perhaps it has unresolved equations leaving it with nagging suspicions, or inabilities to accomplish a particular task. But how would IT know you exist?

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
Oh, another memory from the past.
Women had real tits.
And man didn't dye their hair blonde or where skin tight pants...

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Feb 13, 2013
 
polymath257 wrote:
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And how would that work? Psychology isn't a very good science to begin with. it tends not to actually test its ideas, nor does it tend to repeat experiments to make sure they are correct. But studying the 'subjective' is, by definition, a matter of psychology and not of any of the other sciences (physics, chemistry, geology, etc).
So, what testable hypotheses do you have? What techniques do you propose for measuring 'subjective spiritual' things?
You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.

No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
-Skeptic- wrote:
Still no proof of god, give up Dave, your creationist ways are finished and your cult is dead.
Wrong.

Christianity is currently rising at a rate of 1.3%.
The worlds population is growing at 1.2%.

Sorry bout yer luck.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
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You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.
No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.
Human aren't. Underpowered intellects are.

The proof is already here. They are called wild hairs up the ass. The sudden impulse to do something of a somewhat coherent nature, something that requires a certain sequence of actions and not just spasms, that just comes out of nowhere. Sometimes it improves things, other times it just improves the gene pool. Such as.

Hey, Bubba, watch this!!

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The 'subjective spiritual' aspects of humans were center stage for thousands of years and got us exactly nowhere. Without testable hypotheses and repeatable results, all you have is personal *opinion*, not actual knowledge. But you don't know the difference between the two.
Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.

I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.

That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.

But you don't even understand that it is stupid.

And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.

Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.

If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, duh. I forgot, sorry.
It's the young people that have all the wisdom....
Sure. That's why we got crack cocaine.

And why Justin Beber can sell 'music'.

...and on and on.

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Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.
I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.
That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.
But you don't even understand that it is stupid.
And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.
Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.
If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.
You tell him, Buck.

Poly reminds me of a kid that learns brain surgery is something where you just cut and reconnect some things in school one day, then comes home real enthused and talks his little sister into being his practice piece. Hopefully he doesn't get too far before that Oh Shit! moment happens.

The boy ain't got enough experience to temper his "knowing".

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Lol! Is he a magnet loving Sandusky?
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Dave don't want you...you're older than 12.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Sorry Dave I am 20 years to old for you seeing as how you prefer the 12 year old boys like Sandusky.
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Yeah, you are Chunky.
No, Sweet Cheeks, I have other ideas.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Nice catch! I notice Dave really doesn't think his posts through very well.

Those old synapses of his failing after all the years in church arguing about magnets.
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Weren't you the one bragging about churches being closer than McDonalds?

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Hey Buck Dave has confessed to loving chunky guys! Dude that is all you!
Buck Crick wrote:
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Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.
I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.
That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.
But you don't even understand that it is stupid.
And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.
Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.
If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Sorry Dave I am 20 years to old for you seeing as how you prefer the 12 year old boys like Sandusky.
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Chunky, this is not a sexual attraction I have for you. It is a desire to communicate with you. To reach real deep inside you and impart some wisdom. To open your eyes, so to speak.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
So you finally drop all notions of being a deist and flat out admit to being a Christian worshipping the god of Abraham.

Now you and Buck can be together. It's a perfect match!

I wish you and chunky Buck all the happiness as you start your new lives together. Fatass Buck will be the bride seeing as how he has larger breasts than most women.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C harismatic_Christianity
Atheists can whine and cry and predict the death of religion, but that is the religion of the future.
The reason is soul. Not dogma or organization, but expressions of the individual spirit.
The difference between listening to some math based music from a full symphony, some guy tooting his own horn, or listening to someone like Buckethead, or others that bring the rhythm and emotions in you.
I think modern youngins don't want atheists or hierarchal theists telling them what and how to think.
Jesus is the face of this personal expression. An undefined and personal relationship with the Creator. Just like the message he delivered. Happy to be alive.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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Sure. That's why we got crack cocaine.
And why Justin Beber can sell 'music'.
...and on and on.
Bieber, dude.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
So you finally drop all notions of being a deist and flat out admit to being a Christian worshipping the god of Abraham.
Now you and Buck can be together. It's a perfect match!
I wish you and chunky Buck all the happiness as you start your new lives together. Fatass Buck will be the bride seeing as how he has larger breasts than most women.
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I am so glad you are so representative of Topix atheists. You do an outstanding job.

Out of curiosity, how many out there have had PM's from "GML" wanting to be your buddy?

“Think&Care”

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.
No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.
And on that day it will become a scientific issue. Not before that.

“ecrasez l'infame”

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Feb 13, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.
No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.
That would be fascinating! I'd be more than happy to accept such results, once independently verified.

Would you be as willing to accept the results if it proves there is no such thing?

“I see quantum effects”

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.
I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.
That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.
But you don't even understand that it is stupid.
And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.
Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.
If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.
Ignorance can be infinite.

I never knew that until you and Dave came along.

How's it going, bucky?

They let you out of restraints again?

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Feb 13, 2013
 
http://www.viewzone.com/asianwives.html

Heh heh. Interesting article with lots of reality. There are three other parts before this one.

I had exposure to Asian and other foreign wives at an early age. My own and those of guys I served with. Some worked well. Others you could see what was happening.

I was in an outfit that had a big job going on in Korea. Hundreds of brides came back with them. There was a large segment of these women whose first English words learned, other than those dealing with currency, was lawyer and alimony after settling in.

I knew two guys in Turkey that married local women. Married, they had access to the PX and commissary. There were customs limits on Turks on what they could buy. Electronics and such. Very, very high priced on the local market. Very, very cheap and only obtainable through the PX for military personnel. Very nice profit when sold on the black market. When their tours were over and time to go home, the wives cried they couldn't leave their family. You go, leave me PX card.

Ain't love grand?

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