Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Jun 07

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#153822 Feb 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Not exactly nowhere. They got you here with your new religion.
Could be in circles, but, hey, at least we are moving.
Still no proof of god, give up Dave, your creationist ways are finished and your cult is dead.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153823 Feb 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Still no proof of god, give up Dave, your creationist ways are finished and your cult is dead.
You are amusing if nothing else.

Prove something for me to prove your proof of proof is provable.

Prove that a creative force MUST prove itself to a creation it made in a way that creation has to understand.

Let's say you are a computer engineer that designs and builds a computer with a rather high degree of logic and analytic programming in it. Plus the hardware to realize such.

Does your computer know you exist? Perhaps it has unresolved equations leaving it with nagging suspicions, or inabilities to accomplish a particular task. But how would IT know you exist?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#153824 Feb 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Oh, another memory from the past.
Women had real tits.
And man didn't dye their hair blonde or where skin tight pants...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#153825 Feb 13, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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And how would that work? Psychology isn't a very good science to begin with. it tends not to actually test its ideas, nor does it tend to repeat experiments to make sure they are correct. But studying the 'subjective' is, by definition, a matter of psychology and not of any of the other sciences (physics, chemistry, geology, etc).
So, what testable hypotheses do you have? What techniques do you propose for measuring 'subjective spiritual' things?
You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.

No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#153826 Feb 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Still no proof of god, give up Dave, your creationist ways are finished and your cult is dead.
Wrong.

Christianity is currently rising at a rate of 1.3%.
The worlds population is growing at 1.2%.

Sorry bout yer luck.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153827 Feb 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.
No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.
Human aren't. Underpowered intellects are.

The proof is already here. They are called wild hairs up the ass. The sudden impulse to do something of a somewhat coherent nature, something that requires a certain sequence of actions and not just spasms, that just comes out of nowhere. Sometimes it improves things, other times it just improves the gene pool. Such as.

Hey, Bubba, watch this!!

:-)

Since: May 10

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#153828 Feb 13, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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The 'subjective spiritual' aspects of humans were center stage for thousands of years and got us exactly nowhere. Without testable hypotheses and repeatable results, all you have is personal *opinion*, not actual knowledge. But you don't know the difference between the two.
Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.

I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.

That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.

But you don't even understand that it is stupid.

And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.

Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.

If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.

Since: May 10

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#153829 Feb 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, duh. I forgot, sorry.
It's the young people that have all the wisdom....
Sure. That's why we got crack cocaine.

And why Justin Beber can sell 'music'.

...and on and on.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153830 Feb 13, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.
I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.
That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.
But you don't even understand that it is stupid.
And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.
Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.
If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.
You tell him, Buck.

Poly reminds me of a kid that learns brain surgery is something where you just cut and reconnect some things in school one day, then comes home real enthused and talks his little sister into being his practice piece. Hopefully he doesn't get too far before that Oh Shit! moment happens.

The boy ain't got enough experience to temper his "knowing".

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153831 Feb 13, 2013
Lol! Is he a magnet loving Sandusky?
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Dave don't want you...you're older than 12.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153832 Feb 13, 2013
Sorry Dave I am 20 years to old for you seeing as how you prefer the 12 year old boys like Sandusky.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Yeah, you are Chunky.
No, Sweet Cheeks, I have other ideas.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153833 Feb 13, 2013
Nice catch! I notice Dave really doesn't think his posts through very well.

Those old synapses of his failing after all the years in church arguing about magnets.
madscot wrote:
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Weren't you the one bragging about churches being closer than McDonalds?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153834 Feb 13, 2013
Hey Buck Dave has confessed to loving chunky guys! Dude that is all you!
Buck Crick wrote:
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Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.
I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.
That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.
But you don't even understand that it is stupid.
And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.
Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.
If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153835 Feb 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sorry Dave I am 20 years to old for you seeing as how you prefer the 12 year old boys like Sandusky.
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Chunky, this is not a sexual attraction I have for you. It is a desire to communicate with you. To reach real deep inside you and impart some wisdom. To open your eyes, so to speak.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153836 Feb 13, 2013
So you finally drop all notions of being a deist and flat out admit to being a Christian worshipping the god of Abraham.

Now you and Buck can be together. It's a perfect match!

I wish you and chunky Buck all the happiness as you start your new lives together. Fatass Buck will be the bride seeing as how he has larger breasts than most women.
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C harismatic_Christianity
Atheists can whine and cry and predict the death of religion, but that is the religion of the future.
The reason is soul. Not dogma or organization, but expressions of the individual spirit.
The difference between listening to some math based music from a full symphony, some guy tooting his own horn, or listening to someone like Buckethead, or others that bring the rhythm and emotions in you.
I think modern youngins don't want atheists or hierarchal theists telling them what and how to think.
Jesus is the face of this personal expression. An undefined and personal relationship with the Creator. Just like the message he delivered. Happy to be alive.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#153837 Feb 13, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Sure. That's why we got crack cocaine.
And why Justin Beber can sell 'music'.
...and on and on.
Bieber, dude.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153838 Feb 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So you finally drop all notions of being a deist and flat out admit to being a Christian worshipping the god of Abraham.
Now you and Buck can be together. It's a perfect match!
I wish you and chunky Buck all the happiness as you start your new lives together. Fatass Buck will be the bride seeing as how he has larger breasts than most women.
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I am so glad you are so representative of Topix atheists. You do an outstanding job.

Out of curiosity, how many out there have had PM's from "GML" wanting to be your buddy?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#153839 Feb 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.
No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.
And on that day it will become a scientific issue. Not before that.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#153840 Feb 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You only say that because humans are ignorant of exploring and explaining the human spirit.
No doubt someday somebody will figure out how to actually test for and verify that the Spirit actually exists.
That would be fascinating! I'd be more than happy to accept such results, once independently verified.

Would you be as willing to accept the results if it proves there is no such thing?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153841 Feb 13, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Dave understands the claims he puts forth. You do not.
I recall a certain claim of yours that a 10' stick could be divided into infinite segments of length greater than zero.
That's wildly wrong, and stupid, of course. Because then the stick would be infinite length, not 10'.
But you don't even understand that it is stupid.
And we won't even broach the subject again of your claim that infinite bacteria exist on earth.
Nothing is or can be infinite in space or time. Not the universe, not anything in it.
If you ever get that, then you can start to understand math and physics - maybe.
Ignorance can be infinite.

I never knew that until you and Dave came along.

How's it going, bucky?

They let you out of restraints again?

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