Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Ditat Deus”

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#153645 Feb 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I'd just like it if we had actual secular historical proof he existed.
Then you'd start believing? Quote the atheist, you are.....

the so called evil Egyptian sorcerer messiah made proper historical note by actual living secular historians who lived when he did and seen the man.
Jesus of Nazareth? Nope.
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Ah. You'll believe one story but not the other.

Huh...

Hypocrite.

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#153646 Feb 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Going into full meltdown now after you let it slip about you dreaming about tying men up and sedating them? You said it, own it.
Dave just say you take it back and want a mulligan, you are only making yourself look worse otherwise.
By offering you a mulligan I am being beyond generous and kind. Your dithering is so bad today I am starting to pity you.
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Oh, Chunky, you make me so hot.

Male or female, or whatever you really are, reading your words just gives me a huge erection and the desire to share it with you to shut you up.

I bet you do that to all the guys.

“Ditat Deus”

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#153647 Feb 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
Eagle baby.
That isn't a sentence.

“Ditat Deus”

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#153648 Feb 12, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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LOL, u called him "baby"!
Maybe, it has something to do with Saddam hussein.
Saddamism:
Verb

The atheist act of murder & torture to advance one's ambitions.

:O

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#153649 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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So.
You thought a rainbow bridge was a gay hangout and kneejerkedly kicked into denying the knowledge of such a thing?
Hahaha.

You haven't found it either.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#153650 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That isn't a sentence.
Salutations need not be complete sentences.

I thought you said common sense is better than education.

I took that to mean that you lack the latter.

In which case, you should at least show some common sense!

Since: Dec 11

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#153651 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Good question.
Your answer?
It's not a good question. It's a question that's been answered countless times. And every time, the answer is ignored in favor of some pop-psychology or conspiracy theorist-type nonsense.

Why do skeptics rail against Christianity?

Answer: Christian superstition is viewed as a negative influence on society. It must be confronted, as this is the best way of defeating superstition.
Nonsense: Uh, whatever, you just love sinning or you're possessed by demons.

Why do skeptics rail against Anti-Vaxxers?

Answer: Anti-vaxxers are a negative influence on society by reducing vaccination levels. Their misinformation must be confronted.
Nonsense: Uh, whatever, you just love making kids sick or you work for Big Pharma.

Why do skeptics rail against Moon Hoaxers?

Answer: Moon Hoaxers are making factually incorrect statements about history and science, which is bad. Those statements must be confronted.
Nonsense: Uh, whatever, you're just sheep or you're a NASA shill in on the conspiracy.

It's so tired.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#153652 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Saddamism:
Verb
The atheist act of murder & torture to advance one's ambitions.
:O
There's the bigotry and hate that so epitomizes your religion.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#153653 Feb 12, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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There's the bigotry and hate that so epitomizes your religion.
you're a bigot and liar

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#153655 Feb 12, 2013
Through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins" (Acts 13:38).

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace" (Ephesians 1:7).

"Who gave himself for our sins" (Galatians 1:4).

"This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners" (1Timothy 1:15).

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#153657 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Cause it wouldn't work was the likely cause. But a great source of income studying it for a while....
Funded by ARPA, so you paid for it. Oh, and it does work, but I can fully understand it might be beyond you.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Free fall is nothing but scooting out of the way of a direct line of acceleration. However, you just move into another line on a continuous basis. A tangential resistance. Believe or not, there is also a straight line aspect to that movement. Your motion has to actually counter gravity. Instead of a perfect circle, you have a series of straight lines. Sort of sawtoothed, but very fine. It could make it appear as a wave.
You still have the force of gravity. It's a law or something.
A trip to Mars means the sun will be the strongest attraction for a good ways.
Gravity works on the molecular level on humans. One of the things that keeps it together and functioning properly. You can not duplicate that on a spacecraft. Just not enough mass and directions being tugged on.
I kind of figured you didn't really understand it when you made the erroneous comment about LEO (low Earth orbit) being 90% less gravity effect than sea level.

At sea level the pull of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2.
At leo it's 9 m/s^2.

Freefall is just that - falling.

No different that skydiving EXCEPT

1. there is no atmospheric drag (okay, some on the orbiter, but not on the people inside); AND

2. the forward momentum of the vehicle is great enough to miss hitting the Earth as it constantly *falls* around the Earth (about 7.8 km/s).

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#153658 Feb 12, 2013
A lying tongue is not only something God hates, it is also something that is an abomination to Him.

Prov 6:16-19
16 There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil,
19 A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers.

GET SAVED LIARS

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#153659 Feb 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Hahaha.
You haven't found it either.
Either?

You've been looking for that kind?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153660 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Good question.

Your answer?
I don't.

I talk about religion and the insanity it promotes.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153662 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I never said they weren't laws.
You're acting like just because something is written in the Bible, it's a 100% Christian law that all Christians MUST obey. You're wrong.
The 10 Commandments ARE laws for all Christians, now you're chaanging it up.
Is it against your belief to read the bible or you like being stupid?

Exodus 19

King James Version (KJV)

19 In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.

2 For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to the desert of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness; and there Israel camped before the mount.

3 And Moses went up unto God, and the Lord called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;

I don't see the word christian anywhere in there, do you?

I know. You are just a troll and you don't care what the bible says anymore than I do.

That or you are incredibly and willfully stupid.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153663 Feb 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Crom is a Cimmerian god from the Hyborian age.
He was an indifferent god.
He was created by Robert E. Howard.
He was killed by Howard in 1936. Bullet to the head killed them all.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages
because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split,
as a general thing.~~ Robert E. Howard
Yes, I was going for the stealing each others' holy days bit. Like the christians took over the Pagan holy days.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#153664 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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...You can not duplicate that [gravity] on a spacecraft....
Burt you can simulate it's effect on the body. Ever hear of centrifugal force?

Since: Sep 08

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#153665 Feb 12, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Funded by ARPA, so you paid for it. Oh, and it does work, but I can fully understand it might be beyond you.
<quoted text>
I kind of figured you didn't really understand it when you made the erroneous comment about LEO (low Earth orbit) being 90% less gravity effect than sea level.
At sea level the pull of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2.
At leo it's 9 m/s^2.
Freefall is just that - falling.
No different that skydiving EXCEPT
1. there is no atmospheric drag (okay, some on the orbiter, but not on the people inside); AND
2. the forward momentum of the vehicle is great enough to miss hitting the Earth as it constantly *falls* around the Earth (about 7.8 km/s).
"Even low earth orbit is deleterious to a human's health. Bone mass loss and other things that go to hell when they are out of the gravity well they were constructed in. By just a tiny amount. The gravity is still about 90% where they hang out. Free fall is not real lack of gravity."

That is what I said. Where did you come up with the 90% "less"?

Big difference with skydiving. You are following the line of acceleration, lessening "weight". Standing on the ground arrests that acceleration, resulting in the "weight" the body mechanism adjusts to and was developed in. You still have that "weight" in free fall. That is a relative weightlessness. The fact is they suffer from deleterious physical effects even within that 90% of the surface pull. On a trip to Mars you would have to equal the pull of gravity on the Earth's surface in a small craft to duplicate. You can't do it.

Not only do you have that straight vertical effect of gravity on Earth, you also have the tangential pulls from the rest of the Earth. Horizon to horizon is mass pulling on you. Why Newton's theory about mountains affecting gravity is correct.

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#153666 Feb 12, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Burt you can simulate it's effect on the body. Ever hear of centrifugal force?
An incomplete simulation. Read my previous post.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#153668 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
"Even low earth orbit is deleterious to a human's health. Bone mass loss and other things that go to hell when they are out of the gravity well they were constructed in. By just a tiny amount. The gravity is still about 90% where they hang out. Free fall is not real lack of gravity."
That is what I said. Where did you come up with the 90% "less"?
Big difference with skydiving. You are following the line of acceleration, lessening "weight". Standing on the ground arrests that acceleration, resulting in the "weight" the body mechanism adjusts to and was developed in. You still have that "weight" in free fall. That is a relative weightlessness. The fact is they suffer from deleterious physical effects even within that 90% of the surface pull. On a trip to Mars you would have to equal the pull of gravity on the Earth's surface in a small craft to duplicate. You can't do it.
Not only do you have that straight vertical effect of gravity on Earth, you also have the tangential pulls from the rest of the Earth. Horizon to horizon is mass pulling on you. Why Newton's theory about mountains affecting gravity is correct.
Okay, I erad your 90% comment backwards. My bad.

As to the rest of your post. That is EXACTLY why we need a new commitment to such a goal. Permanent Moon base, L5, Mars. Anything that can stimulate our imagination, resourcefulness, and commitment.

This is how research creates the kind of spin-offs we need. And the challenges to this kind of goal will greatly improve our understanding (and technology) in human healthcare and ecology.

Again, Apollo's benefit wasn't Moon rocks, it was spin-offs.

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