Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Annes

Beallsville, MD

#153563 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Catholics, first Mother Teresa, and now you POPE......like rats abandoning a sinking ship!!!! Even those who claim to be close to God seemed to have figured out what complete and utter bullshit your religion really is.......too funny!!!!
you just illustrated why there is a hell for you to erode and perish in.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#153564 Feb 12, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
But you said that there were not laws! Now you say, "Oh yeah, they were laws, but not for us."
So the 10 commandments are not for us, so tell all your christian friends that they do not belong in public buildings.
We don't have to listen to anything that was not given directly to the christains.
I never said they weren't laws.

You're acting like just because something is written in the Bible, it's a 100% Christian law that all Christians MUST obey. You're wrong.

The 10 Commandments ARE laws for all Christians, now you're chaanging it up.

Since: Sep 08

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#153565 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You see something wrong with thinking of ones self as special. You limit yourself to a premiss that you are somehow answerable to a higher order. You feel ego is something to be shunned. All think all of what you have determined as flaws, are in fact attributes. I see nothing wrong with being proud of ones accomplishments, and knowing they have arrived at the top of the heap, so to speak. My profession demands that I assert myself, that I display an ego, that I strive to be that something special, otherwise whatever success I hope to achieve will never happen. You don't have to be a prick to demand respect from your peers, to be "the man" to be that something special. I take an enormous amount of pride at what I have done professionally, without an ego, or feeling special, I would have never achieved my goals.
So we are machines, with knowable components? Operate like any other machine? Then if that is you take on humans, then you appear terribly confused, or you're simply lying. You have stated that one of the primary components of this machine is a thing called a soul. An unknown, an idea, a belief, a wisp of vapor, nothing physical. A mystery component for your human machine. I think it is you who have stretched your brain too much!!!
Like I said earlier, you have been driving down the highways with the bright lights on. You have missed a lot along the way.

There are countless billions you have passed by that have had a better perspective, and understanding of life than you have. Not only have they had a slower and more detailed look at the road, they have seen hot rods like you pass by, and the wrecks they get into.

You are too full of self to see reality.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153566 Feb 12, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
A wee bit odd. Look through the last 12 hours and see if you see a pattern. I bet you don't.
Ya, the pattern is this:

Off & On
Off & On
Off & On
Off & On
Off & On
Imhotep

United States

#153567 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Still work, semi-retired. Love to dance with you disillusioned GOTBOTS.
the correct industry term is: GODBOT
eg. GODDIDIT or the religiously insane Jesus addicts.

It is these poor unsaved souls that atheists find so amusing. Chairing their tails in search of immortality and making excuses for their Bible and it's God.
Annes

Beallsville, MD

#153568 Feb 12, 2013
blackbaboon wrote:
<quoted text>Still work, semi-retired. Love to dance with you disillusioned GOTBOTS.
this is why i became a christian. i didn't want to become worthless like you.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#153569 Feb 12, 2013
Annes wrote:
<quoted text>
you just illustrated why there is a hell for you to erode and perish in.
Belief in hell is an indicator of a psychopath mentality. No "God of love" would have an eternal torture chamber for unbelievers.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153570 Feb 12, 2013
Annes wrote:
<quoted text>
jesus is NOT in a grave. you are totally clueless, athetrash.
Probably true.

He never existed to begin with.

If he did, there are some theologians who think his body was eaten by dogs.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153571 Feb 12, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
ASSuME?
Yes, assume. Why?
Why do you feel the need to explain your god or the bible when atheists have long rejected both?
It is my duty as a Christian.
Why are you threatened by people that do not share your beliefs in Gods?
I don't believe in "Gods", so......
I prefer the humor found in the book!h
Baalams talking donkey, that sneaky snake, and this...
Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung,and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.--Ezekiel 4:15
And? In those parts of the world in those days, sources of fuel was sometimes scarce, dry cow poop makes great kindling.
One of my favorites... God show his ass!
"And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen." Exodus 33:23
;)
Of course, the ignorant thinks "back parts" means "ass"...
"Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense."
-- Chapman Cohen
True. Good thing I don't believe in "Gods"....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153572 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
You're just not very smart are you. You can't even follow the conversation. You berated science for there BELIF that Mars was 4.6 billion years old. Although nowhere in the article I presented did they use the word believe. Hence...they "Believe" with verifiable evidence, you "believe" with NO verifiable evidence. Got it!!!!
Thank you.

At first you said that you "know" the age of Mars, now you've corrected yourself into saying the age of Mars is assumed. Good boy.

The on'y "verifiable evidence" in that article was the known age of meteors, earth rocks & moon rocks, NOT Martian rocks...
Continually saying Atheism is a religion, really makes you look stupid. For some reason you think it irritates us. I actually find it comical that you try and put Atheists on an even scale with Theists. Its as though you are saying, "OK we believe without any evidence, we're embarrassed by that and feel real foolish that we believe in myths and magical events, but you also believe without evidence, so your in the same boat as you." Any intelligent person KNOWS that Atheists simple lack a belief, By calling us a religion, you now have to show what deity we worship and what our doctrine consists of.
No, no, no... I've never said atheists are on an even scale than theists.

We're much higher up than you simpletons.
BTW I have answered your question numerous times about the age of Mars, both on this thread and on others. You either can't read, or comprehend, or your just avoiding the information because you cant refute it. Either way, you look stupid, once again!!!
No you haven't, you've only copy/pasted other people's assumptions about the age of Mars.

Deal with it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153573 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG, that's like the 10th time that site has been linked to.
Did you read it?
Did you miss the part where it admits what the "assumed" age is?
Probably.
Did you miss the parts about "evidence"?

Probably.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153574 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Still work, semi-retired. Love to dance with you disillusioned GOTBOTS.
WTF is a "GOTBOT"???

Look, if you're gonna try insulting, at least get your spelling right.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#153575 Feb 12, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_mass

This is a rather well documented and principle of physics. It is also why modern math based physics is fucked up, which I have pointed out innumerable times.

This works on the molecular to galactic to universal scale.

Trillions of galaxies? Even more stars. Even more dust and plasma. All swirling around in motion, tugging on each other.

For instance, Earth has a gravity relationship to the sun, and another to Jupiter, but its relationship to the both of them is in another direction, one which changes according to orbital positions. Now add the rest of the celestial bodies and components in the solar system, galaxy, and rest of the universe and those individual relationships combines with those barycentric relationships that are constantly moving and changing and you have one hairy bunch of gravity and energy relationships to keep track of. Which there is no possible way physicists and cosmologists could have done in making their pronouncements that Topix atheists take as the Gospel truth in the belief they are glorified stellar shit.

Ask just where and how they have come up with these totals for the universe that they use in their determinations. You have all of that motion and we haven't even seen it all yet.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#153576 Feb 12, 2013
Being surrounded by low IQ mouth breathers like you who regurgitate the myth 5000 times a days keeps it that way. Still no historical proof he ever existed.
Annes wrote:
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yet you are still here 2000+ years later still talking about Jesus. Seems your atheism is still failing its members miserably.
still LMAO.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#153578 Feb 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Being surrounded by low IQ mouth breathers like you who regurgitate the myth 5000 times a days keeps it that way. Still no historical proof he ever existed.
<quoted text>
Walk out your door and tell us how far it is to the nearest Christian church.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#153579 Feb 12, 2013
Which way?
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Walk out your door and tell us how far it is to the nearest Christian church.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#153580 Feb 12, 2013
Non sequitur.
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C enter_of_mass
This is a rather well documented and principle of physics. It is also why modern math based physics is fucked up, which I have pointed out innumerable times.
This works on the molecular to galactic to universal scale.
Trillions of galaxies? Even more stars. Even more dust and plasma. All swirling around in motion, tugging on each other.
For instance, Earth has a gravity relationship to the sun, and another to Jupiter, but its relationship to the both of them is in another direction, one which changes according to orbital positions. Now add the rest of the celestial bodies and components in the solar system, galaxy, and rest of the universe and those individual relationships combines with those barycentric relationships that are constantly moving and changing and you have one hairy bunch of gravity and energy relationships to keep track of. Which there is no possible way physicists and cosmologists could have done in making their pronouncements that Topix atheists take as the Gospel truth in the belief they are glorified stellar shit.
Ask just where and how they have come up with these totals for the universe that they use in their determinations. You have all of that motion and we haven't even seen it all yet.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#153581 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C enter_of_mass
This is a rather well documented and principle of physics. It is also why modern math based physics is fucked up, which I have pointed out innumerable times.
This works on the molecular to galactic to universal scale.
Trillions of galaxies? Even more stars. Even more dust and plasma. All swirling around in motion, tugging on each other.
For instance, Earth has a gravity relationship to the sun, and another to Jupiter, but its relationship to the both of them is in another direction, one which changes according to orbital positions. Now add the rest of the celestial bodies and components in the solar system, galaxy, and rest of the universe and those individual relationships combines with those barycentric relationships that are constantly moving and changing and you have one hairy bunch of gravity and energy relationships to keep track of. Which there is no possible way physicists and cosmologists could have done in making their pronouncements that Topix atheists take as the Gospel truth in the belief they are glorified stellar shit.
Ask just where and how they have come up with these totals for the universe that they use in their determinations. You have all of that motion and we haven't even seen it all yet.
From that link I posted. An animated effect of the process.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Like I said, this happens from the atomic scale to the universal scale. You just don't have that flat fixed relationships crap they try to bedazzle you with. This is vibrational stuff. Not a damned part of it static.

The universe is a quivering mass, and we are part of it. Think.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#153582 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Walk out your door and tell us how far it is to the nearest Christian church.
Thinking wrote:
Which way?
<quoted text>
Typical limited atheist mentality.

Note the word "nearest".

He can wander around for a while finding some, and then pull out his computer and calculate, and then get back to us if he doesn't know which way to go.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#153583 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
From that link I posted. An animated effect of the process.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Like I said, this happens from the atomic scale to the universal scale. You just don't have that flat fixed relationships crap they try to bedazzle you with. This is vibrational stuff. Not a damned part of it static.
The universe is a quivering mass, and we are part of it. Think.
No proof of god and flailing. What a desperate theist.

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