Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153571 Feb 12, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
ASSuME?
Yes, assume. Why?
Why do you feel the need to explain your god or the bible when atheists have long rejected both?
It is my duty as a Christian.
Why are you threatened by people that do not share your beliefs in Gods?
I don't believe in "Gods", so......
I prefer the humor found in the book!h
Baalams talking donkey, that sneaky snake, and this...
Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung,and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.--Ezekiel 4:15
And? In those parts of the world in those days, sources of fuel was sometimes scarce, dry cow poop makes great kindling.
One of my favorites... God show his ass!
"And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen." Exodus 33:23
;)
Of course, the ignorant thinks "back parts" means "ass"...
"Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense."
-- Chapman Cohen
True. Good thing I don't believe in "Gods"....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153572 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
You're just not very smart are you. You can't even follow the conversation. You berated science for there BELIF that Mars was 4.6 billion years old. Although nowhere in the article I presented did they use the word believe. Hence...they "Believe" with verifiable evidence, you "believe" with NO verifiable evidence. Got it!!!!
Thank you.

At first you said that you "know" the age of Mars, now you've corrected yourself into saying the age of Mars is assumed. Good boy.

The on'y "verifiable evidence" in that article was the known age of meteors, earth rocks & moon rocks, NOT Martian rocks...
Continually saying Atheism is a religion, really makes you look stupid. For some reason you think it irritates us. I actually find it comical that you try and put Atheists on an even scale with Theists. Its as though you are saying, "OK we believe without any evidence, we're embarrassed by that and feel real foolish that we believe in myths and magical events, but you also believe without evidence, so your in the same boat as you." Any intelligent person KNOWS that Atheists simple lack a belief, By calling us a religion, you now have to show what deity we worship and what our doctrine consists of.
No, no, no... I've never said atheists are on an even scale than theists.

We're much higher up than you simpletons.
BTW I have answered your question numerous times about the age of Mars, both on this thread and on others. You either can't read, or comprehend, or your just avoiding the information because you cant refute it. Either way, you look stupid, once again!!!
No you haven't, you've only copy/pasted other people's assumptions about the age of Mars.

Deal with it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153573 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG, that's like the 10th time that site has been linked to.
Did you read it?
Did you miss the part where it admits what the "assumed" age is?
Probably.
Did you miss the parts about "evidence"?

Probably.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153574 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Still work, semi-retired. Love to dance with you disillusioned GOTBOTS.
WTF is a "GOTBOT"???

Look, if you're gonna try insulting, at least get your spelling right.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153575 Feb 12, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_mass

This is a rather well documented and principle of physics. It is also why modern math based physics is fucked up, which I have pointed out innumerable times.

This works on the molecular to galactic to universal scale.

Trillions of galaxies? Even more stars. Even more dust and plasma. All swirling around in motion, tugging on each other.

For instance, Earth has a gravity relationship to the sun, and another to Jupiter, but its relationship to the both of them is in another direction, one which changes according to orbital positions. Now add the rest of the celestial bodies and components in the solar system, galaxy, and rest of the universe and those individual relationships combines with those barycentric relationships that are constantly moving and changing and you have one hairy bunch of gravity and energy relationships to keep track of. Which there is no possible way physicists and cosmologists could have done in making their pronouncements that Topix atheists take as the Gospel truth in the belief they are glorified stellar shit.

Ask just where and how they have come up with these totals for the universe that they use in their determinations. You have all of that motion and we haven't even seen it all yet.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#153576 Feb 12, 2013
Being surrounded by low IQ mouth breathers like you who regurgitate the myth 5000 times a days keeps it that way. Still no historical proof he ever existed.
Annes wrote:
<quoted text>
yet you are still here 2000+ years later still talking about Jesus. Seems your atheism is still failing its members miserably.
still LMAO.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153578 Feb 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Being surrounded by low IQ mouth breathers like you who regurgitate the myth 5000 times a days keeps it that way. Still no historical proof he ever existed.
<quoted text>
Walk out your door and tell us how far it is to the nearest Christian church.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#153579 Feb 12, 2013
Which way?
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Walk out your door and tell us how far it is to the nearest Christian church.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#153580 Feb 12, 2013
Non sequitur.
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C enter_of_mass
This is a rather well documented and principle of physics. It is also why modern math based physics is fucked up, which I have pointed out innumerable times.
This works on the molecular to galactic to universal scale.
Trillions of galaxies? Even more stars. Even more dust and plasma. All swirling around in motion, tugging on each other.
For instance, Earth has a gravity relationship to the sun, and another to Jupiter, but its relationship to the both of them is in another direction, one which changes according to orbital positions. Now add the rest of the celestial bodies and components in the solar system, galaxy, and rest of the universe and those individual relationships combines with those barycentric relationships that are constantly moving and changing and you have one hairy bunch of gravity and energy relationships to keep track of. Which there is no possible way physicists and cosmologists could have done in making their pronouncements that Topix atheists take as the Gospel truth in the belief they are glorified stellar shit.
Ask just where and how they have come up with these totals for the universe that they use in their determinations. You have all of that motion and we haven't even seen it all yet.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153581 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C enter_of_mass
This is a rather well documented and principle of physics. It is also why modern math based physics is fucked up, which I have pointed out innumerable times.
This works on the molecular to galactic to universal scale.
Trillions of galaxies? Even more stars. Even more dust and plasma. All swirling around in motion, tugging on each other.
For instance, Earth has a gravity relationship to the sun, and another to Jupiter, but its relationship to the both of them is in another direction, one which changes according to orbital positions. Now add the rest of the celestial bodies and components in the solar system, galaxy, and rest of the universe and those individual relationships combines with those barycentric relationships that are constantly moving and changing and you have one hairy bunch of gravity and energy relationships to keep track of. Which there is no possible way physicists and cosmologists could have done in making their pronouncements that Topix atheists take as the Gospel truth in the belief they are glorified stellar shit.
Ask just where and how they have come up with these totals for the universe that they use in their determinations. You have all of that motion and we haven't even seen it all yet.
From that link I posted. An animated effect of the process.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Like I said, this happens from the atomic scale to the universal scale. You just don't have that flat fixed relationships crap they try to bedazzle you with. This is vibrational stuff. Not a damned part of it static.

The universe is a quivering mass, and we are part of it. Think.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153582 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Walk out your door and tell us how far it is to the nearest Christian church.
Thinking wrote:
Which way?
<quoted text>
Typical limited atheist mentality.

Note the word "nearest".

He can wander around for a while finding some, and then pull out his computer and calculate, and then get back to us if he doesn't know which way to go.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#153583 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
From that link I posted. An animated effect of the process.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Like I said, this happens from the atomic scale to the universal scale. You just don't have that flat fixed relationships crap they try to bedazzle you with. This is vibrational stuff. Not a damned part of it static.
The universe is a quivering mass, and we are part of it. Think.
No proof of god and flailing. What a desperate theist.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153584 Feb 12, 2013
Why? That doesn't provide historical proof for Jesus. A rather weak argument on your behalf don't you think?

Can't you do better Dave than the weakest logical fallacy talking points? Ask your preacher this Sunday maybe he can pray with you and help you out.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Walk out your door and tell us how far it is to the nearest Christian church.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#153585 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, assume. Why?
<quoted text>
It is my duty as a Christian.
<quoted text>
I don't believe in "Gods", so......
<quoted text>
And? In those parts of the world in those days, sources of fuel was sometimes scarce, dry cow poop makes great kindling.
<quoted text>
Of course, the ignorant thinks "back parts" means "ass"...
<quoted text>
True. Good thing I don't believe in "Gods"....
Its your duty to sh*t the f*ck up and demonstrate some morals by not lying to us about a god that simply does not exist.

You people are annoying, just f*ck off back to your caves and spreading your ridiculous mental illness to sane people.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153586 Feb 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why? That doesn't provide historical proof for Jesus. A rather weak argument on your behalf don't you think?
Can't you do better Dave than the weakest logical fallacy talking points? Ask your preacher this Sunday maybe he can pray with you and help you out.
<quoted text>
Provide us historical proof that your belief system has demonstrated an improved existence for mankind.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153587 Feb 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Its your duty to sh*t the f*ck up and demonstrate some morals by not lying to us about a god that simply does not exist.
You people are annoying, just f*ck off back to your caves and spreading your ridiculous mental illness to sane people.
You are convinced you are sane and most of the world isn't?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153588 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are convinced you are sane and most of the world isn't?
Yes.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153589 Feb 12, 2013
That won't provide historical proof for Jesus will it Dave? It is a standard Christian argument, one you being a Christian you are well versed on. Still it is a logical fallacy. We all know you gush over how you perceive the Jesus myth has in your words and opinion shaped the whole world! Lmfao!

But your opinion doesn't count as fact. The Jesus myth has hindered not helped mankind. It has stymied free thinkers since it was forced down the people's throat by Constantine.

Christians can't even figure out if Jesus was born in Mary and Joseph's house on Bethlehem or if they were living in Nazareth and stopped off in Bethlehem because Mary's water broke and she gave birth in a barn. Ah yes Jesus born beside piles of horsesht! Fitting no!

:)
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Provide us historical proof that your belief system has demonstrated an improved existence for mankind.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#153590 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
So you have a vested interest in the industry.
We all do.

The technological spin-offs from the pure research is of benefit to all of us. And all of that research is patent free.

The other indirect spin-off was the economic growth we experienced throughout the '60s. The country had a vision and the drive to make it happen.

Even today we have all the technology we need to continue this effort, but we've lost the drive to do so. That's a shame and a disgrace for all of us.

The main area of pure research we would need for a permanent Moon base and a safe human trip to Mars would be in human healthcare and closed ecological systems. The spin-offs from such an endeavor boggles the mind.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#153591 Feb 12, 2013
Annes wrote:
<quoted text>
you just illustrated why there is a hell for you to erode and perish in.
What a sick and twisted little mythology you have that would include such a place as hell.

And that you are okay with the idea of fellow human beings spending eternity there is even more twisted. Only a real psychopath could be okay with that.

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