Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Annes

Beallsville, MD

#153550 Feb 12, 2013
Adam wrote:
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Of yes of course, jesus, lazarus and numerous undead saints roamed jerusalem as zombies (source - the bible)
yes, that did happen, mr. mental weakness.
Imhotep

United States

#153551 Feb 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
An outdated wiki page written by a Christian. Notice it says Christ not Jesus. To believe the Tacitus forged passage is legit you have to say Tacitus had accepted Jesus as Messiah since he calls this person Christ.
An imperial roman would never have written such a thing. And he didn't as earlier pre 15th century versions of his work do not include the Christ passage.
Poor daffy! Even his wiki page says Christ and not Jesus. I bet you think there was only one Christ back then eh?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
:)
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Tacitus ?

Supposed Jesus witnesses...

Josephus - Born 37 CE
Phlegon - Born about 80 CE
Tacitus - Born 56 CE
Pliny the Younger - Born 61 CE
Suetonious - Born about 69 CE
The Babylonian Talmud - 200CE
Lucian - Born 125 CE
Phlegon - 2nd century

How exactly are these guys witnesses to something that happened before they were even born?

Hearsay isn't admissible in court for a reason!

--

Tacitus was born in 56 CE, more than two decades after the alleged execution.

In fact, his writings about Jesus were done in 116 CE. This cannot be anything but 3rd hand (if not 4th or 5th) retelling, and the historical validity of the tale is therefore nil.

Since he was the first to write about it, where did he get the info? Surely not from earlier writings, right?

Those 'scholars' are therefore speaking through their hat.

;)
Annes

Beallsville, MD

#153552 Feb 12, 2013
seems that the faith in atheism is just too weak.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#153553 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then you should hate yourself.....
Where's your verifiable evidence of the age of Mars?
I've given it to you three times dumb ass. I'm really beginning to think that reading might be a problem for you. I know that educational opportunities up there in hillbilly land are scant, so maybe it's not all your fault. If you need extra help with reading and comprehension, I can suggest some programs for you. Good luck!!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153554 Feb 12, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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I spent my whole career in air and space sciences, you have no idea what you are talking about.
NASA has proven time and again that its main contribution is the technology that ‘spins off’ from the research they do. The Apollo missions generated about 1,300 documented NASA technologies which have benefited U.S. industry, improved the quality of life and created jobs for Americans. The Space Shuttle program has also generated more than 100 technology spin-offs.
Some of the Apollo program spin-offs include: 1) major improvements in CAT scanners, MRI, and kidney dialysis; 2) protective clothing worn by racecar drivers, nuclear reactor technicians, and shipyard workers; 3) physical therapy machines used by football teams, sports clinics, and medical rehabilitation centers; 4) cordless power tools and appliances; and 5) athletic shoe design and manufacturing techniques. NASA research has led to an extensive line of commercial products, from insulated outer garments to packaging for foods, from life rafts to candy wrappings. Water purification technology used on the Apollo spacecraft is now employed in several spin-off applications to kill bacteria, viruses and algae in community water supply systems.
The Space Shuttle program has some pretty impressive spin-offs, too. Space Shuttle medical spin-offs include: a new artificial heart; major advancements in the diagnosis and treatment of head injury, stroke, chronic dizziness, and central nervous system disorders; new blood diagnosis machines; and bioreactors that are being used to design therapeutic drugs and antibodies. The Ford Motor Company is using Shuttle developments in the production of natural gas-powered cars. A sensitive infrared hand-held camera that observes the blazing plumes from the Shuttle was used during the brush fires that ravaged Malibu, California in 1996 to point out hot spots for firefighters. There is virtually no area of daily life that has not been greatly enhanced by NASA spin-offs. Better roads, better food processes, better medical systems, better shoes – just name it, NASA has improved it!
So you have a vested interest in the industry.
Annes

Beallsville, MD

#153556 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I've given it to you three times dumb ass. I'm really beginning to think that reading might be a problem for you. I know that educational opportunities up there in hillbilly land are scant, so maybe it's not all your fault. If you need extra help with reading and comprehension, I can suggest some programs for you. Good luck!!
you don't have a job , do you?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153557 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Buckethead eh. I listened. Simplistic and repetitive. Horrible drummer, sounds like he's building a boat. No dynamic shadings, tonally vapid, and no fully developed melodies. endless arpeggios. As I suspected, children's music.
Pleasant to listen to.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#153558 Feb 12, 2013
Annes wrote:
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jesus is NOT in a grave. you are totally clueless, athetrash.
Hey Catholics, first Mother Teresa, and now you POPE......like rats abandoning a sinking ship!!!! Even those who claim to be close to God seemed to have figured out what complete and utter bullshit your religion really is.......too funny!!!!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#153559 Feb 12, 2013
Annes wrote:
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you don't have a job , do you?
Still work, semi-retired. Love to dance with you disillusioned GOTBOTS.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153560 Feb 12, 2013
madscot wrote:
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And? You do realize that the Curiosity Rover has equipment to test that so it can be confirmed, don't you?
That what can be confirmed?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#153561 Feb 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Pleasant to listen to.
For some, I'm sure it is!!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153562 Feb 12, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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http://www.universetoday.com/14852/how-old-is...
Google scares the shit out of you, doesn't it?
OMG, that's like the 10th time that site has been linked to.

Did you read it?

Did you miss the part where it admits what the "assumed" age is?

Probably.
Annes

Beallsville, MD

#153563 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Catholics, first Mother Teresa, and now you POPE......like rats abandoning a sinking ship!!!! Even those who claim to be close to God seemed to have figured out what complete and utter bullshit your religion really is.......too funny!!!!
you just illustrated why there is a hell for you to erode and perish in.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153564 Feb 12, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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But you said that there were not laws! Now you say, "Oh yeah, they were laws, but not for us."
So the 10 commandments are not for us, so tell all your christian friends that they do not belong in public buildings.
We don't have to listen to anything that was not given directly to the christains.
I never said they weren't laws.

You're acting like just because something is written in the Bible, it's a 100% Christian law that all Christians MUST obey. You're wrong.

The 10 Commandments ARE laws for all Christians, now you're chaanging it up.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153565 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You see something wrong with thinking of ones self as special. You limit yourself to a premiss that you are somehow answerable to a higher order. You feel ego is something to be shunned. All think all of what you have determined as flaws, are in fact attributes. I see nothing wrong with being proud of ones accomplishments, and knowing they have arrived at the top of the heap, so to speak. My profession demands that I assert myself, that I display an ego, that I strive to be that something special, otherwise whatever success I hope to achieve will never happen. You don't have to be a prick to demand respect from your peers, to be "the man" to be that something special. I take an enormous amount of pride at what I have done professionally, without an ego, or feeling special, I would have never achieved my goals.
So we are machines, with knowable components? Operate like any other machine? Then if that is you take on humans, then you appear terribly confused, or you're simply lying. You have stated that one of the primary components of this machine is a thing called a soul. An unknown, an idea, a belief, a wisp of vapor, nothing physical. A mystery component for your human machine. I think it is you who have stretched your brain too much!!!
Like I said earlier, you have been driving down the highways with the bright lights on. You have missed a lot along the way.

There are countless billions you have passed by that have had a better perspective, and understanding of life than you have. Not only have they had a slower and more detailed look at the road, they have seen hot rods like you pass by, and the wrecks they get into.

You are too full of self to see reality.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153566 Feb 12, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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A wee bit odd. Look through the last 12 hours and see if you see a pattern. I bet you don't.
Ya, the pattern is this:

Off & On
Off & On
Off & On
Off & On
Off & On
Imhotep

United States

#153567 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Still work, semi-retired. Love to dance with you disillusioned GOTBOTS.
the correct industry term is: GODBOT
eg. GODDIDIT or the religiously insane Jesus addicts.

It is these poor unsaved souls that atheists find so amusing. Chairing their tails in search of immortality and making excuses for their Bible and it's God.
Annes

Beallsville, MD

#153568 Feb 12, 2013
blackbaboon wrote:
<quoted text>Still work, semi-retired. Love to dance with you disillusioned GOTBOTS.
this is why i became a christian. i didn't want to become worthless like you.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#153569 Feb 12, 2013
Annes wrote:
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you just illustrated why there is a hell for you to erode and perish in.
Belief in hell is an indicator of a psychopath mentality. No "God of love" would have an eternal torture chamber for unbelievers.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153570 Feb 12, 2013
Annes wrote:
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jesus is NOT in a grave. you are totally clueless, athetrash.
Probably true.

He never existed to begin with.

If he did, there are some theologians who think his body was eaten by dogs.

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