Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Read more

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#153515 Feb 11, 2013
madscot wrote:
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They've sent probes to Mars for years now.
I know.

“Ditat Deus”

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#153516 Feb 11, 2013
madscot wrote:
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A question that lingered in many ancient astronomers minds was ”how old is Mars?” Of course, they wondered the same thing about the other planets and the Sun, as well. Today, scientists believe that Mars, and the remainder of the Solar System formed about 4.6 billion years ago from the solar nebula.
Since no one has ever retrieved a piece of Martian rock for study, this assumption is arrived at by studying meteorites, Moon rocks, and the oldest rocks here on Earth. Meteorites have been around since the beginning, so if everything formed at once, then all meteorites should be the same age. We could compare the age of Earth’s original rock to determine this if it had not be recycled deep underground by volcanism and erosion, but studying the oldest rock on the planet gives a general idea to scientists.
Read more: http://www.universetoday.com/14852/how-old-is...
Right, the assumption is arrived by studying everything possible, just not Mars.

Got it.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#153517 Feb 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Right, the assumption is arrived by studying everything possible, just not Mars.
Got it.
And? You do realize that the Curiosity Rover has equipment to test that so it can be confirmed, don't you?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#153518 Feb 11, 2013
bohart wrote:
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You know how life started , just not exactly how! Ha,Ha,Ha, your science!You have the faith of the Roman centurian.

You have the ignorance of a rebellious child.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153519 Feb 12, 2013
Tacitus an imperial roman would never have wrote Christ on an official work. It would be like a Rabbi going on Facebook saying how much he loves pork chops.

And again at the time there were several Christ figures, hundreds of messiah wannabes. Ben if he had been talking about the Christian messiah he at best was merely repeating what Christians told him supposedly happened. This and dozens of other reasons is why even many Christian historians are not accepting the Tacitus forged passages that appear in the 15th century but never before.

Then again you can't tell the difference between blood letting and getting blood work done at a hospital.
BBSting wrote:
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Oops! My bad! These comments were meant for the mentally deranged resident troll, gimmeliberty. Specifically his post #153195

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153520 Feb 12, 2013
As I predicted you as usual dodge and run away from questions.

So your bible god commanded his followers to rape, kill and enslave people. Verified. Do you think these were moral things to do?

Of course you won't answer this.
mtimber wrote:
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It is not a matter of evidence.
Evidence will never convince you.
So why give you more evidence.
You are not interested in the truth, you are only interested in suppressing the truth.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153521 Feb 12, 2013
Abiogenesis and evolution are two different sciences. You really don't know this?

But yes do provide a link showing a rock fell into water and humans came running out.

Hurry up now half wit.
mtimber wrote:
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They call it abiogenesis.
I can get you a link if you want, it is a part of evolutionary theory, that many evolutionists get embarrassed about and try to deny it is actually a part of the theory.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153522 Feb 12, 2013
Because half wit, Christians have been caught red handed repeatedly forging and changing historical documents and accounts to fit their myth.

Again no historical proof that Jesus of nazareth and Moses ever existed.

Now we have secular historical proof for Jesus Ben Pandera son of a roman soldier who raped a Jewish woman, Jesus Ben strada the so called evil Egyptian sorcerer. Yet nothing on your Jesus of Nazareth. Egyptian wizard Jesus? Check. Jesus of the bible? Nope.
mtimber wrote:
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Interesting that the only cultural and historical documentation you will not accept is the Christian one.
Why is that do you think?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153523 Feb 12, 2013
We are bemused how you are asked questions but always refuse to answer them. I suppose reason is a dirty word in your mind.

You have no proof, no evidence, no logical arguments but man oh man can you run away screaming from a question!

:)
mtimber wrote:
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I am bemused why you keep making absolute moral judgements.
When you keep denying there can be absolute moral judgements.
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It is this foolish contraction that prevents me treating your question seriously.
And no matter how many times it is explained that this is not quite right, you still keep doing it...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153524 Feb 12, 2013
An outdated wiki page written by a Christian. Notice it says Christ not Jesus. To believe the Tacitus forged passage is legit you have to say Tacitus had accepted Jesus as Messiah since he calls this person Christ.

An imperial roman would never have written such a thing. And he didn't as earlier pre 15th century versions of his work do not include the Christ passage.

Poor daffy! Even his wiki page says Christ and not Jesus. I bet you think there was only one Christ back then eh?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!

:)
Eagle12 wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Chris...
The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ,

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#153525 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>WTF does my faith in God have to do with the age of Mars?

That's a typical atheist response, you know.

"I disagree with you! You're an idiot that lets your stupid religion interfere with your reasoning!"

What's your excuse, blackie? You say those scientists have "verifiable evidence" of the age of Mars.

What friggin evidence?

Just answer THAT!
http://www.universetoday.com/14852/how-old-is...

Google scares the shit out of you, doesn't it?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#153526 Feb 12, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Ironic how people who don’t believe in God define who is and isn’t a Christian. As if to say you are some sort of authority on the subject.
Under your analogy Denis Rader known also as BTK was a true to the core Christian since he attended a Lutheran Church. Never mind that he was a mass murder. To you he was a fine example of Christianity.
I guess you would count Judas Iscariot a example of Christianity too. Even though history see’s him as the betrayer.
If I may use your words,“hallucinatory raving of an utter lunatic.” That phrase of yours would fit Denis Rader and you very nicely. Christianity requires more than occasional attendance but obedience to Christ teachings.
It doesn’t matter how the average infidel defines Christianity. It’s how God defines it.
You do realize you're making my point for me, yes?

The only qualification needed for one to be accounted a Christian by other Christians is the mere declaration that one is.

Yes, Rader counts.

Judas was almost certainly fictional, and the term "Christian" wasn't in use in his alleged day, anyway, so I'm not sure about him.

As for Revelation, have you _read_ the stupid thing?

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

Seriously? That's either a major psychotic break or some VERY strange mushrooms.

Since: Oct 10

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#153527 Feb 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize you're making my point for me, yes?
The only qualification needed for one to be accounted a Christian by other Christians is the mere declaration that one is.
Yes, Rader counts.
Judas was almost certainly fictional, and the term "Christian" wasn't in use in his alleged day, anyway, so I'm not sure about him.
As for Revelation, have you _read_ the stupid thing?
"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."
Seriously? That's either a major psychotic break or some VERY strange mushrooms.
True Christians hold a snake while dancing in red pants, slap an old lady in the face and pass out.

Whatcha thank bout jebus?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#153528 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Buckethead eh. I listened. Simplistic and repetitive. Horrible drummer, sounds like he's building a boat. No dynamic shadings, tonally vapid, and no fully developed melodies. endless arpeggios. As I suspected, children's music.
I concur.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153529 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Perfect, thank you. 8 proofs for you that show those laws were for ancient Israelites, not all Christians in every day & age.
But you said that there were not laws! Now you say, "Oh yeah, they were laws, but not for us."

So the 10 commandments are not for us, so tell all your christian friends that they do not belong in public buildings.

We don't have to listen to anything that was not given directly to the christains.

Since: Oct 10

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#153530 Feb 12, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
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I concur.
It's always subjective, isn't it?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153531 Feb 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Croms birthday on June 5th.....April 24th the day he created black raspberry ice-cream........and Aug 10th the day he declared being willfully ignorant was punishable by being dipped in liquid shit!!! and Yours?
Hey, maybe it is the same god!! June 5th is our holiest day; that is the day that Jet Black had a son! You know; with a name like blacklagoon, your forefather's must have known of Jet Black!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153532 Feb 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Hey, look at that! It's been 3 hours.....
Relax, man. This is a thread, not a phone call.
A wee bit odd. Look through the last 12 hours and see if you see a pattern. I bet you don't.

Since: Oct 10

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#153533 Feb 12, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Hey, maybe it is the same god!! June 5th is our holiest day; that is the day that Jet Black had a son! You know; with a name like blacklagoon, your forefather's must have known of Jet Black!
Crom is a Cimmerian god from the Hyborian age.

He was an indifferent god.

He was created by Robert E. Howard.

He was killed by Howard in 1936. Bullet to the head killed them all.

Civilized men are more discourteous than savages
because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split,
as a general thing.~~ Robert E. Howard

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#153534 Feb 12, 2013
Hey look another one of Dave's long winded opinions.

Zzzzzzzzzz
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I think you stretched your brain too much in the past doing those convolutions.
As a human being you see yourself as something special. You pay li[p service to just evolving from matter, but you really feel at the top of the heap. You are special, you can investigate and determine and pass judgments on everything else, even though you just happen to be made up of materials aligned in a certain way. You really aren't in touch with what you proclaim. You think too much for your capabilities. Gets you stuck in loops.
I see humans beings, myself included, as being constructs serving the purpose of something higher on the ladder. My ego is under much better control than yours.
As I said before, I am a technician. I recognize machinery. We are machines. Worrying and guessing about what constructed us is beyond our abilities. The environment provided for us by this higher force will determine what we do.

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