Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Read more

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#153475 Feb 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
What did God say about slavery?
Don't assume that just because it is written in the Bible, it is a "law from God".
God did NOT force or condone Lot's daughters getting pregnant by him, but it is in the Bible....
So, I'll ask you ONE LAST TIME- What did God say about slaves?
And that underscores the skeptic's point, doesn't it? Christians think they can call the Bible the Word Of God, but then dodge out of specifics within as the words of fallible men when confronted with difficult passages. Unless you've got a copy that clearly delineates God's words from man's words, what we have left is just a nice collection of Judeo/Christian philosophy.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153476 Feb 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Does God say its OK? Find the scripture.
<quoted text>
There's where your mistake is, right there.
Try to understand that what is recorded in the Bible is not all "law" for us to follow, a lot of it is merely record.
With your illogic, we are "instructed" to not eat of the Tree of Knowledge because it is written in the Bible.........
Try reading the bible. Pick any translation you like!

Exodus 21

21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

21 “Now these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them:

Exodus 21

American Standard Version (ASV)

21 Now these are the ordinances which thou shalt set before them.

Exodus 21

Amplified Bible (AMP)

21 Now these are the ordinances you [Moses] shall set before [the Israelites].

Exodus 21

Common English Bible (CEB)
Instructions about slaves

21 These are the case laws that you should set before them:

Exodus 21

Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
Parashah 18: Mishpatim (Rulings) 21:1–24:18

21 “These are the rulings you are to present to them:

Exodus 21

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
Hebrew Slaves

21 The Lord gave Moses the following laws for his people:

Exodus 21

Darby Translation (DARBY)

21 And these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them.

Exodus 21

Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

21 These are the judgments which thou shalt set before them.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#153477 Feb 11, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
It is easy to tell when people like you are defeated.
Thank you for you submission.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153478 Feb 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for you submission.
Do you need time to select a translation? Maybe you need someone to read them to you?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153479 Feb 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for you submission.
Wow! 16 minutes and you can't pick a translation! How fu[king stupid are you?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153480 Feb 11, 2013
Never mind! I should have asked. We all know the answer.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#153481 Feb 11, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
Who wants an English lesson from a import with nasty black hair balls under his arms?
That should be "an import," not "a import."

You wouldn't want to be called "a idiot," would you?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153482 Feb 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>So, your of the school of thought that says anything is possible. A rock could exist and not exist at the same time. You say it's possible, and of course you weren't there to observe. So you must now accept many possibilities as to our present here on this planet. Panspermia for one, seeded here by an advanced race another possibility. Your weren't here to observe so you really can't say either of these are NOT possibilities. Of course you may still keep you supreme creator theory and just one of many.
Since all logic and deductions are based on present day observations in this time and place, then you simply can NOT know with any certainly that your imaginary being has anything to do with anything.
I think you stretched your brain too much in the past doing those convolutions.

As a human being you see yourself as something special. You pay li[p service to just evolving from matter, but you really feel at the top of the heap. You are special, you can investigate and determine and pass judgments on everything else, even though you just happen to be made up of materials aligned in a certain way. You really aren't in touch with what you proclaim. You think too much for your capabilities. Gets you stuck in loops.

I see humans beings, myself included, as being constructs serving the purpose of something higher on the ladder. My ego is under much better control than yours.

As I said before, I am a technician. I recognize machinery. We are machines. Worrying and guessing about what constructed us is beyond our abilities. The environment provided for us by this higher force will determine what we do.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#153483 Feb 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
As I said before, I am a technician. I recognize machinery. We are machines. Worrying and guessing about what constructed us is beyond our abilities. The environment provided for us by this higher force will determine what we do.
"beyond our abilities"? You mean now or forever? Only a intellectually defeated person would say, "beyond our abilities", so let's forget about it. We would still be living in trees if we thought like you.

Do we have a cure for that?

No, it is beyond our abilities, so we quit looking.

What the hell are you a tech on?
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#153484 Feb 11, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait a minute! What are your holy days?
Croms birthday on June 5th.....April 24th the day he created black raspberry ice-cream........and Aug 10th the day he declared being willfully ignorant was punishable by being dipped in liquid shit!!! and Yours?
Turkey

Oswego, NY

#153485 Feb 11, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
That should be "an import," not "a import."
You wouldn't want to be called "a idiot," would you?
Should you be tending to your chickens , ol trained jerkoff?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153486 Feb 11, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
"beyond our abilities"? You mean now or forever? Only a intellectually defeated person would say, "beyond our abilities", so let's forget about it. We would still be living in trees if we thought like you.
Do we have a cure for that?
No, it is beyond our abilities, so we quit looking.
What the hell are you a tech on?
"The environment provided for us by this higher force will determine what we do."

Have you figured out how to feed all those you cured, will cure, and their offspring? Are you willing to lower your standard of living to do those things. Are you eager to compete with all of them for resources?

Divest yourself of what wealth you have now and give it to science so they can perform these miracles. Show us the strength of your convictions.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153487 Feb 11, 2013
The LHC at Cern. Cosmological research. The space programs. Countless others studying things way beyond any utility for the average person.

A LOT OF MONEY SPENT ON THOSE THINGS.

That is your science Topix atheists worship.

What about the diseases, hunger, social organization of the living population now and in the future? Building a better platform before we start reaching out?

There is a lot of hypocrisy in these secular humanist atheists.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#153488 Feb 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you. From your own link, dumb ass:
"Today, scientists believe that Mars, and the remainder of the Solar System formed about 4.6 billion years ago from the solar nebula."
Oh good, they BELIEVE.
"Since no one has ever retrieved a piece of Martian rock for study, this assumption is arrived at by studying meteorites..."
As I said, it's an assumption. Nothing more.
Thanks again, duder.
Yeah, I know all those dumb ass scientist who don't know their ass from their elbow. Herfe they are lying once again, should be a law against it. We should also outlaw the process of mathematical extrapolation to get information.

They "Believe" with verifiable evidence, you "believe" with......ahhh...errr....oh yeah, a touch on the head!!!! Yeah,,,,Right!!!

Now maybe you could show us how very smart you are by pointing out the flaw of using meteorites to date the age of our solar system....ready...set......GO! !! Well dumb ass, how about it,,,,,GO!! LOL nothing....yeah I thought so.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#153489 Feb 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I know about the robot on Mars.
Didn't Megatron destroy it?
I don't think we know as much about Mars that blacklagoon thinks we know. We've barely been able to land a primitive robot on it & stare at it through cameras & telescopes. There's still so much we don't know about our own planet, let alone another planet.
Holy Shit, you do live under a friggin rock, who knew. So you know all about "the robot"on Mars"....really, what do they call it? How long has it been there? What is its function? What has it discovered so far? I'll be waiting.........."I know all about the Robot on Mars." Yeah right..........Oh and here's a little clue for ya,,,,there is more than One on Mars. Get busy slacker!!!!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153490 Feb 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Holy Shit, you do live under a friggin rock, who knew. So you know all about "the robot"on Mars"....really, what do they call it? How long has it been there? What is its function? What has it discovered so far? I'll be waiting.........."I know all about the Robot on Mars." Yeah right..........Oh and here's a little clue for ya,,,,there is more than One on Mars. Get busy slacker!!!!
http://www.universetoday.com/99750/another-we...

Maybe an eyeglass screw. Never know where you will lose those things.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153491 Feb 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, I know all those dumb ass scientist who don't know their ass from their elbow. Herfe they are lying once again, should be a law against it. We should also outlaw the process of mathematical extrapolation to get information.
They "Believe" with verifiable evidence, you "believe" with......ahhh...errr....oh yeah, a touch on the head!!!! Yeah,,,,Right!!!
Now maybe you could show us how very smart you are by pointing out the flaw of using meteorites to date the age of our solar system....ready...set......GO! !! Well dumb ass, how about it,,,,,GO!! LOL nothing....yeah I thought so.
Wow!!

You sure get animated when someone questions your belief system.

What church do you belong to?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#153492 Feb 11, 2013
Poor maladjusted and angry Topix atheists. Nowhere to go but places like this to vent.

But the Creator has caused some of us to stay on here so they don't eat each other.

Poor souls. They are angry and want to take all the magic, hopes, dreams and such out of life. Bring chaos and misery to everyone else. They like to share.



If they had their way, sentiments like this would be banned. Not scientific enough.

Goodnight all.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#153493 Feb 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.universetoday.com/99750/another-we...
Maybe an eyeglass screw. Never know where you will lose those things.
You don't reckon it's a piece of an old Radio Shack™ speaker magnet, do you, Dave?

A BIG PAPER CLIP!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#153494 Feb 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you stretched your brain too much in the past doing those convolutions.
As a human being you see yourself as something special. You pay li[p service to just evolving from matter, but you really feel at the top of the heap. You are special, you can investigate and determine and pass judgments on everything else, even though you just happen to be made up of materials aligned in a certain way. You really aren't in touch with what you proclaim. You think too much for your capabilities. Gets you stuck in loops.
I see humans beings, myself included, as being constructs serving the purpose of something higher on the ladder. My ego is under much better control than yours.
As I said before, I am a technician. I recognize machinery. We are machines. Worrying and guessing about what constructed us is beyond our abilities. The environment provided for us by this higher force will determine what we do.
You see something wrong with thinking of ones self as special. You limit yourself to a premiss that you are somehow answerable to a higher order. You feel ego is something to be shunned. All think all of what you have determined as flaws, are in fact attributes. I see nothing wrong with being proud of ones accomplishments, and knowing they have arrived at the top of the heap, so to speak. My profession demands that I assert myself, that I display an ego, that I strive to be that something special, otherwise whatever success I hope to achieve will never happen. You don't have to be a prick to demand respect from your peers, to be "the man" to be that something special. I take an enormous amount of pride at what I have done professionally, without an ego, or feeling special, I would have never achieved my goals.

So we are machines, with knowable components? Operate like any other machine? Then if that is you take on humans, then you appear terribly confused, or you're simply lying. You have stated that one of the primary components of this machine is a thing called a soul. An unknown, an idea, a belief, a wisp of vapor, nothing physical. A mystery component for your human machine. I think it is you who have stretched your brain too much!!!

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