Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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it's easier than the secret..

it requires less effort..
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don't that scare anyone that I know how to do miracles without even worrying about if God is real or not??
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it may or may not e God who cares it works..
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better and more garaunteed than prayer and more biblically validated than prayer i can validate the whole bible with 3 verses..
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it's so true that even if it wasn't true it would still be true..
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if prayer worked would that prove god if that says yes then god is real ..

but if prayer working doesn't prove god then neither does this..
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Despite the odd f**k up like you, we do OK.
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Hasn't seemed to work very well.

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Thinking wrote:
Despite the odd f**k up like you, we do OK.
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Dave's OK.

Just sayin

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River Tam wrote:
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Dave's OK.
Just sayin
Just point and unhook the leash.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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You may find solace in the fact that you are so short on proof of god, that you are practically invisible.
Where's your proof?

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Richardfs wrote:
Oh! and by the way Napoleon was short.
No sh*t Einstein, you are brilliant.

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Certainly not but it seems you are confessing what you did as a child.
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Itís pretty evident that you are a sadist by what you have written. You seem to enjoy being abusive and cruel. By your reaction to my comments we must have struck a chord with you.

Thatís good because your behavior is anti social and not considered normal by no means. This sadism is something Jeffery Dahmer had and other mass murders including BTK.

The recent case of this man taking a kid hostage after murdering his bus driver. Then keeping this 5 year old hostage in a bunker is also another example of sadism. The man had reported beat one of the neighbors dog to death with a pipe.

Anti social behavior is not good, not at all. You have some real deep seated issues and you need to get help. I have no way to know if you have harmed others in a physical sense. If you have you need to turn yourself in.

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Sadists like to inflict pain because they find suffering, both corporeal and psychological, amusing. They torture animals and people because, to them, the sights and sounds of a creature writhing in agony are hilarious and pleasurable. Sadists go to great lengths to hurt others: they lie, deceive, commit crimes, and even make personal sacrifices merely so as to enjoy the cathartic moment of witnessing someone else's misery.

Sadists are masters of abuse by proxy and ambient abuse. They terrorize and intimidate even their nearest and dearest into doing their bidding. They create an aura and atmosphere of unmitigated yet diffuse dread and consternation. This they achieve by promulgating complex "rules of the house" that restrict the autonomy of their dependants (spouses, children, employees, patients, clients, etc.). They have the final word and are the ultimate law. They must be obeyed, no matter how arbitrary and senseless are their rulings and decisions.

Most sadists are fascinated by gore and violence. They are vicarious serial killers: they channel their homicidal urges in socially acceptable ways by "studying" and admiring historical figures such as Hitler, for instance. They love guns and other weapons, are fascinated by death, torture, and martial arts in all their forms.

http://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disor...

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Eagle12 wrote:
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I'm an American a**hole. I donít care for Europe and neither did my ancestors. Thatís why they left the damn place and came to America. Europe can deal with their own dismal history.
You are an a**hole! Finally, we agree on something!

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bigtruths wrote:
i no longer have actual faith in my religion I believe it like the guy who wrongly asked god to give him powers simon..
because I have physical tangible reproducible proof..
prayer doesn't work but doing stuff to or for people that way God prolongs your life span to fulfill his prophecies is a complete reality..
prayer was never meant to work the bible said do not pray because God already knows what you want..
Why would jesus say this then?

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>No I do not have your belief in god, bring him over so that I can believe it is real. Until then between us , it is your belief alone.
You can't answer this question?

Do You believe there is no God or gods?

If you answer no then why do you attack Theists and call their faith a myth?

You do this because you do have a positive assertion that there is no God or gods. The facts are posted all over these threads by atheist and you with a positive assertion that there is no such thing as a God or gods.

Sorry but you lose.

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Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>Hint, creation websites are full of BS. When you grow up you will come to realise this.
Just call me Pan!

Peter Pan.

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Langoliers wrote:
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You can't answer this question?
Do You believe there is no God or gods?
If you answer no then why do you attack Theists and call their faith a myth?
You do this because you do have a positive assertion that there is no God or gods. The facts are posted all over these threads by atheist and you with a positive assertion that there is no such thing as a God or gods.
Sorry but you lose.
I do not believe in gods you do.
You tell me there are a god , I don't believe you.
You cant bring one for us to see, so I think you are crazy.
You believe in god, I don't have this belief.

Since you can't show me this god I not only think you are crazy,but I think you are stupid too. For believing in invisible things you have no ability to see touch taste or smell.

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Does that answer your stupid question?

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<quoted text>Dictionaries are fantastic tools, as long as you know how to use them. I won't be exampling the words - "religion" or "faith" - since they do not apply to atheism, as you'll see.

I'm going to look at the word meaning for - atheism - since that's what is in dispute here. I'll be using the Merriam-Webster definitions, too, like you did, no?

Let's look....

Definition of ATHEISM
1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity

Origin of ATHEISM
Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos godless, from a-+ theos god
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ath...

You said you used Merriam-Webster for the definitions you supplied? This is what you supplied.

Langoliers wrote: Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Imagine that. The definition you supplied, and that you said came from Merriam-Webster doesn't match. Let's look at this word from Merriam Webster.

You might be unaware of what it means.

Definition of DECEITFUL
: having a tendency or disposition to deceive:
a : not honest <a deceitful child>
b : deceptive, misleading <deceitful advertising>

Synonyms: crooked, fraudulent, defrauding, dishonest, double-dealing, false

^^^ That^^^ is^^^what^^^deceitful^^^means^ ^^.

Anyway, let's continue. Did you notice that the word from Merriam-Webster used the word - disbelief - in defining atheism? Disbelief is key to understanding what atheism means, and is used in defining atheism in Merriam-Webster for obvious reasons. We should look at that word in more depth.

Definition of DISBELIEF
: the act of disbelieving : mental rejection of something as untrue

Examples of DISBELIEF
She stared at him in utter disbelief.
<their story explaining their absence was met with frank disbelief>

Synonyms: incredulity, nonbelief, unbelief

Related Words: discredit, distrust, doubt, mistrust, skepticism, suspicion, uncertainty; denial, rejection, repudiation, unfaith
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dis...

Notice it uses "nonbelief" and "unbelief" as synonyms, and also related words are "rejection" and "unfaith". Huh ... nonbelief and unfaith are related to - disbelief. That rules out religion or faith being a component of - atheism.

I figured we should probably look at the root meaning for the prefix - dis. This will clarify - disbelief - even further, and, what the fnck, I've got 4000 characters to burn here.

Plus, you said :
Langoliers wrote, " LOL. You'll have to do better then that."

*Then*, I guess I must, yes?

Continuing.

dis-/ not, not any / disbelief, discomfort, discredit, disrepair, disrespect
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0907036.html
^^^Look^^^ at^^^ that^^^.

It means - not, not any. So, when you combine the prefix "dis", with "belief", you get, in an actual meaning, not metaphorical, allegorical, simile or parable.....

...NOT - BELIEF, NOT ANY - BELIEF.

BTW the root meaning for "a" is not, without.

So, atheism means - NOT THEISM, WITHOUT THEISM.

One last definition from Merriam-Webster - the dictionary that you prefer.
http://tinyurl.com/6f8ghk
I think it and "deceitful" applies to you in this instance.

Using Merriam-Webster to define the word, it's clear - atheism - isn't a belief, faith, or religion.
Merriam-Webster

Atheist not atheism.
Pay attention.

athe¬∑ist\ňąńĀ-thńď-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity

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