Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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I am honored to have this much power and control over you. Tell me Daffy you think the holocaust was the will of your dark Palestinian god because it helped reform the state of Israel yet you want to call others sadist?
You lie about Arabs going into your Dad's hospital room and converting him to believe in Allah. You said he was this brutal tyrant who crammed atheism down everyone's throat but later said he was a wonderful, sweet charming fellow who everyone adored. You think that a serpent and a homo erectus look alike.
Lol! Crazy old Daffy, always good for a laugh.
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If you have the funds to go the Philippines then you have the ability to go to a clinical physiologist and get treatment for sadism. You have mental anti social issues and treatment is available.

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I wonder how many hundreds of times you will repost this without a shred of reason why it is incorrect?
I know you are jealous but hey instead of making yourself look like a jackass go out and do some charity work yourself.
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Sadism.

Iím not asking this to be cruel but trying to understand why you are so malevolent. When you were a child did you torture animals?

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<quoted text>And bald is a hair colour. Why do you insist on been stupid?
You referring to this article?

"Posted by derek4

"¬ďAtheism:[is] a religion¬Ē

¬ďAtheism is the belief that there is no god. According to the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy:

¬ďAtheism is the position that affirms the non-existence of God. It proposes positive disbelief rather than mere suspension of belief.¬Ē

Buddhism is atheistic in the sense of denying that there is any overarching deity such as the Creator-God of the Bible. Atheism in the western sense excludes Buddhism, and adherents claim that it is not a religion. One Atheist said:

¬ďCalling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour¬Ē

[Poster's insert: Above quote demonstrates the unoriginality of Hedonist's post which made the same statement, plagiarizing the author, since he linked to no source and dishonestly presented it as his own thought.]

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However, atheists make such claims so Atheism can avoid legal imperatives placed on religions in many countries, and can avoid some of the ideological hang-ups people have about ¬ďreligion¬Ē. It also creates a false dichotomy between science (which they claim must be naturalistic and secular) and religion.

Atheism will be defined in the contemporary western sense: not just the lack of belief in a god, but the assertion about the non-existence of any gods, spirits, or divine or supernatural beings. Atheists in this sense are metaphysical naturalists, and as will be shown, they DO follow a religion.

Continued; (Conclusion:)

Atheists often claim that their belief is not a religion. This allows them to propagate their beliefs in settings where other religions are banned, but this should not be so.

Contemporary Western Atheism unquestionably has six of the seven dimensions of religion set forth by Smart, and the remaining dimension, ritual, has also started to develop. Thus it¬ís fallacious to assert,¬ďCalling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour¬Ē. Perhaps a better analogy would be calling a shaved head a ¬ďhairstyle¬Ē. Other than the denial of the divine, there is little difference between Atheism and other worldviews typically labeled as religions.

The dichotomy that Atheists try to create between science and religion is false. The conflict is between interpretations of science coming from different religious worldviews.

Atheism shouldn’t be taught or enforced in settings where other religions are banned and shouldn’t be favoured by laws which imply a religiously neutral government."

http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion

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scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>You are purposefully ignorant, to do so is a lie.
Ok so quoting Merriam-Webster is a lie?

LOL. You'll have to do better then that.

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<quoted text>I don't have your belief.
Do You believe there is no God or gods?

If you answer no then why do you attack Theists and call their faith a myth?

You do this because you do have a positive assertion that there is no God or gods. The facts are posted all over these threads by atheist and you with a positive assertion that there is no such thing as a God or gods.

Sorry but you lose.

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I am honored to have this much power and control over you. <quoted text>
Thank you for your comments. This gives me the opportunity to explain Sadism. And how it blends in with other personality disorders. The following reference is from Wiki:

Sadism is a behavioral disorder characterized by a callous, vicious, manipulative, and degrading behavior expressed towards other people. To date, the exact cause of sadism is not known clearly. However, many theories have been given to explain the possible reasons underlying the development of a sadistic personality in an individual.

Sadism involves gaining pleasure from seeing others undergo pain or discomfort. The Opponent-Process Theory explains the way in which individuals not only display, but also take enjoyment in committing sadistic acts. Individuals possessing sadistic personalities display recurrent cruel behavior and aggression. Sadism can also include the use of physical and emotional cruelty, purposefully manipulating others through the use of fear, and a preoccupation with violence.
While some sadistic individuals do gain pleasure in imposing pain and suffering upon others, sadism does not always involve the use of physical aggression or violence. More often, sadistic individuals express aggressive social behaviors and enjoy publicly humiliating others in order to achieve a sense of power over them.

Sadistic Personality Disorder is often found to occur in unison with other personality disorders. In fact, studies have found that Sadistic Personality Disorder is the personality disorder with the highest level of comorbidity to other types of psychopathologic disorders. However, sadism has also been found in patients who do not display other forms of psychopathic disorders. One personality disorder that is oftentimes found to occur alongside Sadistic Personality disorder are Conduct Disorders. In addition, anti-social and narcissistic personality disorders are sometimes found in individuals diagnosed with Sadistic Personality Disorder. Other disorders that are also oftentimes found to exist with Sadistic Personality Disorder include Bipolar Disorder, Panic Disorders, Depression, Borderline Personality Disorder, Histrionic Personality Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Self-Defeating Personality Disorder and Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder. Studies have found other types of illnesses, such as alcoholism, to have a high rate of comorbidity with Sadistic Personality Disorder.

Because of its high level of comorbidity with other disorders, researches have had some level of difficulty distinguishing Sadistic Personality Disorder from other forms of personality disorder. While Sadistic Personality Disorder itself is no longer included in the DSM, partially for this reason, other types of disorders involving sadism, such as sexual sadism, are still found in the DSM.

Most of these theories commonly point out the fact that sadism is mainly dependent on the upbringing of an individual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_persona...

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I'm an American a**hole. I donít care for Europe and neither did my ancestors. Thatís why they left the damn place and came to America. Europe can deal with their own dismal history.
Hahahahahahaha

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Do You believe there is no God or gods?
If you answer no then why do you attack Theists and call their faith a myth?
You do this because you do have a positive assertion that there is no God or gods. The facts are posted all over these threads by atheist and you with a positive assertion that there is no such thing as a God or gods.
Sorry but you lose.
No I do not have your belief in god, bring him over so that I can believe it is real. Until then between us , it is your belief alone.

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You referring to this article?
"Posted by derek4
"¬ďAtheism:[is] a religion¬Ē
¬ďAtheism is the belief that there is no god. According to the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy:
¬ďAtheism is the position that affirms the non-existence of God. It proposes positive disbelief rather than mere suspension of belief.¬Ē
Buddhism is atheistic in the sense of denying that there is any overarching deity such as the Creator-God of the Bible. Atheism in the western sense excludes Buddhism, and adherents claim that it is not a religion. One Atheist said:
¬ďCalling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour¬Ē
[Poster's insert: Above quote demonstrates the unoriginality of Hedonist's post which made the same statement, plagiarizing the author, since he linked to no source and dishonestly presented it as his own thought.]
text continues:
However, atheists make such claims so Atheism can avoid legal imperatives placed on religions in many countries, and can avoid some of the ideological hang-ups people have about ¬ďreligion¬Ē. It also creates a false dichotomy between science (which they claim must be naturalistic and secular) and religion.
Atheism will be defined in the contemporary western sense: not just the lack of belief in a god, but the assertion about the non-existence of any gods, spirits, or divine or supernatural beings. Atheists in this sense are metaphysical naturalists, and as will be shown, they DO follow a religion.
Continued; (Conclusion:)
Atheists often claim that their belief is not a religion. This allows them to propagate their beliefs in settings where other religions are banned, but this should not be so.
Contemporary Western Atheism unquestionably has six of the seven dimensions of religion set forth by Smart, and the remaining dimension, ritual, has also started to develop. Thus it¬ís fallacious to assert,¬ďCalling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour¬Ē. Perhaps a better analogy would be calling a shaved head a ¬ďhairstyle¬Ē. Other than the denial of the divine, there is little difference between Atheism and other worldviews typically labeled as religions.
The dichotomy that Atheists try to create between science and religion is false. The conflict is between interpretations of science coming from different religious worldviews.
Atheism shouldn’t be taught or enforced in settings where other religions are banned and shouldn’t be favoured by laws which imply a religiously neutral government."
http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion
Hint, creation websites are full of BS. When you grow up you will come to realise this.

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I'm an American a**hole.....
Yes you are.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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Thank you for your comments. This gives me the opportunity to explain Sadism. And how it blends in with other personality disorders. The following reference is from Wiki:
Sadism is a behavioral disorder characterized by a callous, vicious, manipulative, and degrading behavior expressed towards other people. To date, the exact cause of sadism is not known clearly. However, many theories have been given to explain the possible reasons underlying the development of a sadistic personality in an individual.
Sadism involves gaining pleasure from seeing others undergo pain or discomfort. The Opponent-Process Theory explains the way in which individuals not only display, but also take enjoyment in committing sadistic acts. Individuals possessing sadistic personalities display recurrent cruel behavior and aggression. Sadism can also include the use of physical and emotional cruelty, purposefully manipulating others through the use of fear, and a preoccupation with violence.
While some sadistic individuals do gain pleasure in imposing pain and suffering upon others, sadism does not always involve the use of physical aggression or violence. More often, sadistic individuals express aggressive social behaviors and enjoy publicly humiliating others in order to achieve a sense of power over them.
Sadistic Personality Disorder is often found to occur in unison with other personality disorders. In fact, studies have found that Sadistic Personality Disorder is the personality disorder with the highest level of comorbidity to other types of psychopathologic disorders. However, sadism has also been found in patients who do not display other forms of psychopathic disorders. One personality disorder that is oftentimes found to occur alongside Sadistic Personality disorder are Conduct Disorders. In addition, anti-social and narcissistic personality disorders are sometimes found in individuals diagnosed with Sadistic Personality Disorder. Other disorders that are also oftentimes found to exist with Sadistic Personality Disorder include Bipolar Disorder, Panic Disorders, Depression, Borderline Personality Disorder, Histrionic Personality Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Self-Defeating Personality Disorder and Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder. Studies have found other types of illnesses, such as alcoholism, to have a high rate of comorbidity with Sadistic Personality Disorder.
Because of its high level of comorbidity with other disorders, researches have had some level of difficulty distinguishing Sadistic Personality Disorder from other forms of personality disorder. While Sadistic Personality Disorder itself is no longer included in the DSM, partially for this reason, other types of disorders involving sadism, such as sexual sadism, are still found in the DSM.
Most of these theories commonly point out the fact that sadism is mainly dependent on the upbringing of an individual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_persona...
Sadism is the new word for the week and weak. Let's see how many time sadism can be used in the one sentence.

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Yes you are.
Hey, where you been?

Eagle is lamer than ever.

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Thereís a man hunt for a former LAPD officer that went rouge and killed a number of people because he was angry. Claiming that he was unjustly fired as an LAPD officer for turning in another police officer for brutality.

There are however legal ways one can regain their reputation and their job back. Itís called hiring a lawyer. Also available to him was the NAACP and their leadership. Another organization is the ACLU. The general population would also have stood with him in his fight for fairness.

But all that is lost now because he became judge, jury and executioner. Iím afraid this is not going to end good for this man for what he has done. He crossed the thin blue line of justice. Being terminated doesnít give one the right to go on a killing spree. Thatís why we have courts and lawyers.

All the good he may have done in his life has now been lost because of his uncontrolled temper. His family and the families of the people he killed are mourning this preventable event. Uncontrolled hate can lead to death of innocent people.

What does this have to do with this thread? A lot, because hate often manifest itself here on this thread. We are protected by anonymity to a degree. Emotions run high and so does the hate factor. I would urge you who are anti social and sadistic get professional help.

If Lt. Doner had done that perhaps he could have regained his job and back pay. All that is lost now and he is a hunted killer.

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Thereís a man hunt for a former LAPD officer that went rouge and killed a number of people because he was angry. Claiming that he was unjustly fired as an LAPD officer for turning in another police officer for brutality.
There are however legal ways one can regain their reputation and their job back. Itís called hiring a lawyer. Also available to him was the NAACP and their leadership. Another organization is the ACLU. The general population would also have stood with him in his fight for fairness.
But all that is lost now because he became judge, jury and executioner. Iím afraid this is not going to end good for this man for what he has done. He crossed the thin blue line of justice. Being terminated doesnít give one the right to go on a killing spree. Thatís why we have courts and lawyers.
All the good he may have done in his life has now been lost because of his uncontrolled temper. His family and the families of the people he killed are mourning this preventable event. Uncontrolled hate can lead to death of innocent people.
What does this have to do with this thread? A lot, because hate often manifest itself here on this thread. We are protected by anonymity to a degree. Emotions run high and so does the hate factor. I would urge you who are anti social and sadistic get professional help.
If Lt. Doner had done that perhaps he could have regained his job and back pay. All that is lost now and he is a hunted killer.
You're right except for the last sentence.

He is a hunting killer. Somebody forgot to let the sleeping dog lie. They prey has become predator and the prey doesn't like it. Society at it's best.

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Richardfs wrote:
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Sadism is the new word for the week and weak. Let's see how many time sadism can be used in the one sentence.
I donít see you as sadist.

Youíre just an ordinary narcissistic sh*t head who openly practices religious bigotry and proud of it.

None of it you would do if we met in person. But because you are anonymous you feel more powerful. Sort of a cowardly approach you take my good friend.

Iím not criticizing you for being an Atheist. Itís your narcissism that stinks. Itís not my fault you have the Napoleon syndrome in addition to your narcissism.

You also need to brush up on your one liners, they lack any humor or meaning. Kinda bland like you are.

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Hey, where you been?
Eagle is lamer than ever.
Thanks for asking, I have been marking exams and assignments, rewriting coarse notes....

In short I have been doing an impersonation of a one armed paper hanger.

As for duck12, he is one of those great universal constants, stupidity never changes.

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Thereís a man hunt for a former LAPD officer that went rouge and killed a number of people because he was angry. Claiming that he was unjustly fired as an LAPD officer for turning in another police officer for brutality.
There are however legal ways one can regain their reputation and their job back. Itís called hiring a lawyer. Also available to him was the NAACP and their leadership. Another organization is the ACLU. The general population would also have stood with him in his fight for fairness.
But all that is lost now because he became judge, jury and executioner. Iím afraid this is not going to end good for this man for what he has done. He crossed the thin blue line of justice. Being terminated doesnít give one the right to go on a killing spree. Thatís why we have courts and lawyers.
All the good he may have done in his life has now been lost because of his uncontrolled temper. His family and the families of the people he killed are mourning this preventable event. Uncontrolled hate can lead to death of innocent people.
What does this have to do with this thread? A lot, because hate often manifest itself here on this thread. We are protected by anonymity to a degree. Emotions run high and so does the hate factor. I would urge you who are anti social and sadistic get professional help.
If Lt. Doner had done that perhaps he could have regained his job and back pay. All that is lost now and he is a hunted killer.
What a load of BS. Take your meds and go to bed like a good little boy. The grown ups are talking.

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I donít see you as sadist.
Youíre just an ordinary narcissistic sh*t head who openly practices religious bigotry and proud of it.
None of it you would do if we met in person. But because you are anonymous you feel more powerful. Sort of a cowardly approach you take my good friend.
Iím not criticizing you for being an Atheist. Itís your narcissism that stinks. Itís not my fault you have the Napoleon syndrome in addition to your narcissism.
You also need to brush up on your one liners, they lack any humor or meaning. Kinda bland like you are.
Mmeelltt ddoowwnn and only in a few minutes that must be a personal best, congratulations.

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Richardfs wrote:
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Mmeelltt ddoowwnn and only in a few minutes that must be a personal best, congratulations.
I donít dislike short or little people. I once worked for a man who stood no taller that 4 foot. He was an excellent supervisor.

You on the other hand have this power issue. Like your not tall enough. Man be content with who you are and stop trying to project power like your some type of Napoleon.

It comes down to confidence my man. A man confident in himself can only be 4 foot tall but look 7 feet tall in others eyes. Iím sorry you donít come across as being very tall.

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Thanks for asking, I have been marking exams and assignments, rewriting coarse notes....
In short I have been doing an impersonation of a one armed paper hanger.
As for duck12, he is one of those great universal constants, stupidity never changes.
"In short," yep that's what I'm talking about, you being short.

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